MLP: Fighting is Magic is down guys

[itroitnyah]

Discuss.

Hasbro, I am disappoint.

[cyrricky]

The characters are Hasbro's property, Mane6 used them. They infringed on trademark, so they were shut down. End of story.

I don't understand why people are getting so worked up over this.

[Motivfs]

The characters are Hasbro's property, Mane6 used them. They infringed on trademark, so they were shut down. End of story.

I don't understand why people are getting so worked up over this.

Agreed, I'm surprised it took so long to take care of this, it really was only a matter of time, I have nothing against Hasbro for it, they are only trying to secure their own property from infringement.

[Nine Volt]

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EDIT:
Holy fuck everyone on their website is whining like fucking bitches. Just like that whole 'Derpy' bullshit everyone will forget this and move on in another week or two.

[Fimbulin]

I wonder if these things would work if somehow Mane6 could 'join teams' with Hasbro at least legally until the release of the game. Everyone would probably be happy then.

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

I don't see the big deal either. For one, I'm not exactly a fan of Fighter Games, and for two, they were well within their rights as owners of they IP. A person in a Facebook group made a really good point about this, so I'll just give you a quick copypasta. (and no it wasn't me)

"As bad as it is: Trademark rights can also be lost through improper licensing or assignment. Where the use of a trademark is licensed (for example, to a franchisee) without adequate quality control or supervision by the trademark owner, that trademark will be canceled.

If hasbro let the game go through, they could've lost their trademark on the mlp franchise.

If the game got released it would've shown that Hasbro's quality control was lacking, their trademark would've been pulled faster then a zyrtec.

(Another person) Trademarks, unlike Copyrights, need to be purchased and can get very expensive. So if you lost a trademark because of something like this, buying it back would've been an unnecessary and expensive cost.

2 years ago, "Fighting is Magic" (Social media would've loved that name, Hasbro PR would've been pulling their hair out) wasn't getting full main page articles on major gaming web pages. IT became too big to ignore

If it was just a small time deviantart (Or other) Flash game, it would've been largly ignored. But this was a full blown game.

And before somebody claims it's under the parody act:

No, Fighting is Magic wasn't a parody, a simple version of the parody act is: Any type of original content mixed or edited to make something else. For example, any and all music remixes, little flash games for racing, apple bucking, drinks serving, ect.

Fighting is Magic was a compleatly new game that doesn't represent anything that appeared in the show or toy line using trademarked characters owned by hasbro."

As far as I'm concerned/genuinely care, end of story.

[Motivfs]

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EDIT:
Holy fuck everyone on their website is whining like fucking bitches. Just like that whole 'Derpy' bullshit everyone will forget this and move on in another week or two.

Yup... So many babies within the community it's quite painful to watch how they react so immaturely. I guess watching an 8-year old girls show all of the sudden makes sense from their perspective.

[itroitnyah]

I haven't played the game but I have seen gameplay and stuff, and my friends have played it and they like it, and I'm not trying to crush Hasbro or anything. I've seen some of the comments so I understand that they think it's "negatively" impacting how people view the show. If that's the case, why haven't they taken down the majority of fanfictions out there? I haven't heard of them taking down fanfictions, and not art either. I already know that there is art and fanfictions out there that are "negatively impacting" how people view the show and the characters, but I guess it's more of "why did they target MLP fighting is magic" ahead of stuff like clop or shipping? Just saying, you can already guess which one effects how people view the show the most. I don't know guys, just judging from how the characters are within the show (fighting the changlings at the season 2 finale, for example), it seems like Fighting is Magic isn't much different from the show. Unless I read the comments section wrong and they've ordered it down for other reasons.

Edit: I also don't understand the copyrights and how that would suddenly become obsolete if they allowed FiM to release the game. The crew working on the game weren't claiming ownership or anything, were they? Besides, Hasbro, being the greedy capitalist bastards they are, should have seen this as a great marketing opportunity and helped the mane6 team out with this project and they could have made some pretty good money off of it.

[Nine Volt]

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EDIT:
Holy fuck everyone on their website is whining like fucking bitches. Just like that whole 'Derpy' bullshit everyone will forget this and move on in another week or two.

Yup... So many babies within the community it's quite painful to watch how they react so immaturely. I guess watching an 8-year old girls show all of the sudden makes sense from their perspective.

It's worse when they somehow manage to get every single fact wrong.

It's times like these when the word 'fandumb' is appropriate.

[Magnitude Zero]

ENTIRE FANDOM IS BABIES

[colortwelve]

As a matter of principle for Hasbro, they need to protect their property.

As a matter of principle for Mane6, they really should be allowed to do what they will as long as they aren't profiting.

There's nothing anybody can do, but I'm going to look at this pragmatically. Habsro was losing exactly no money from this, and Mane6 were pouring their time and effort into something based on something else. It's nothing to rage over, but it would definitely be refreshing to see Hasbro take a look at one of its derivative works and decide not to shut it down in defense of a nonexistent profit.

Principle can only go so far. As long as we're having fun and nobody's losing money, why get up in arms over it?

[Nine Volt]

Principle can only go so far. As long as we're having fun and nobody's losing money, why get up in arms over it?

Because fandom is babies.

[colortwelve]

Principle can only go so far. As long as we're having fun and nobody's losing money, why get up in arms over it?

Because fandom is babies.

That was directed more at Hasbro than the fandom, but I suppose it could work both ways. There's definitely nothing we gain from throwing a tantrum when the Big Bad Legal Team comes around.

[Motivfs]

As a matter of principle for Hasbro, they need to protect their property.

As a matter of principle for Mane6, they really should be allowed to do what they will as long as they aren't profiting.

There's nothing anybody can do, but I'm going to look at this pragmatically. Habsro was losing exactly no money from this, and Mane6 were pouring their time and effort into something based on something else. It's nothing to rage over, but it would definitely be refreshing to see Hasbro take a look at one of its derivative works and decide not to shut it down in defense of a nonexistent profit.

Principle can only go so far. As long as we're having fun and nobody's losing money, why get up in arms over it?

As much as it's non-profit, it's still infringement on their property, and Hasbro can lose the rights to it if they let it slide through to my knowledge. (I'm not a law expert though, so please correct me if I'm wrong).

[Magnitude Zero]

As a matter of principle for Hasbro, they need to protect their property.

As a matter of principle for Mane6, they really should be allowed to do what they will as long as they aren't profiting.

There's nothing anybody can do, but I'm going to look at this pragmatically. Habsro was losing exactly no money from this, and Mane6 were pouring their time and effort into something based on something else. It's nothing to rage over, but it would definitely be refreshing to see Hasbro take a look at one of its derivative works and decide not to shut it down in defense of a nonexistent profit.

Principle can only go so far. As long as we're having fun and nobody's losing money, why get up in arms over it?

As much as it's non-profit, it's still infringement on their property, and Hasbro can lose the rights to it if they let it slide through to my knowledge. (I'm not a law expert though, so please correct me if I'm wrong).

I too would like some clarification on this. There seems to be a lot of uncertainty regarding this trademark stuff.

[colortwelve]

As much as it's non-profit, it's still infringement on their property, and Hasbro can lose the rights to it if they let it slide through to my knowledge. (I'm not a law expert though, so please correct me if I'm wrong).

Nor am I, but if that's the case, I can definitely see why they'd do that. But from my vantage point, it seems rather draconian :/

[Stars In Autumn]

I'm rather surprised you are all on Hasbro's side on this. Hasbro literally has had since the beginning of the development of that game to shut it down. But instead they waited until now, after all the time and effort put into the game to shut it down. Honestly, this is a really dick move on Hasbro, and not good for the rest of the fandom. If Mane6 has no chance of negotiating trademark rights with Hasbro, then no one does.

[Stars In Autumn]

As much as it's non-profit, it's still infringement on their property, and Hasbro can lose the rights to it if they let it slide through to my knowledge. (I'm not a law expert though, so please correct me if I'm wrong).

Nor am I, but if that's the case, I can definitely see why they'd do that. But from my vantage point, it seems rather draconian :/

Also, that is wrong, they do not lose the rights if they don't hunt every infringement.

[Motivfs]

I'm rather surprised you are all on Hasbro's side on this. Hasbro literally has had since the beginning of the development of that game to shut it down. But instead they waited until now, after all the time and effort put into the game to shut it down. Honestly, this is a really dick move on Hasbro, and not good for the rest of the fandom. If Mane6 has no chance of negotiating trademark rights with Hasbro, then no one does.

I wouldn't say I'm on Hasbro's side, I can see why they did it, but you do make a good point that it was definitely a poorly timed decision to claim a C&D now, rather than sooner. I do feel bad for Mane6 and the effort they put into a game that might no longer have a chance at completion.

[Mundius]

I'm typically going with smaller guys, but I understand Hasbro. I'm entirely with them. I'm okay with the idea of the game, but Hasbro needed to shut it down. If they fail, they fail. Whatever. Someone could leak the latest build and that's that.

Also, fandumb is babies!

[ph00tbag]

Grumpy about this. But certainly not surprised.

I was at least hoping the initial release would get out before this happened, though. The other 11 characters aren't really something I'm concerned about, but seeing how the mane six characters turned out would have been ace.

I'm hoping the negotiations can go somewhere, possibly in the vein of licensing or some such. It'd be a shame to have the last year and a half go to waste for those guys.

[Nine Volt]

I'm rather surprised you are all on Hasbro's side on this. Hasbro literally has had since the beginning of the development of that game to shut it down. But instead they waited until now, after all the time and effort put into the game to shut it down. Honestly, this is a really dick move on Hasbro, and not good for the rest of the fandom. If Mane6 has no chance of negotiating trademark rights with Hasbro, then no one does.

Long time no posts, Stars :3

I'm really only on Hasbro's side because the other side is being total babies about it (at least the vocal ones are). I don't really actually care about the issue.

I don't think Hasbro really cares or wanted to shut it down, but as others have said, yes, the can lose their trademark if they didn't enforce it on big things like this. I think they were content to let it all happen... until that EVO thing, which I understand involved raising money. From there it was simply too big to ignore. If it remained a small flash game on deviantart, it wouldn't have mattered at all.

Mane6 can't get liscensing because it would cost upwards of 10 thousand for every character. It isn't protected as a parody either; they're not parodying, they were directly using characters protected under Hasbro's trademark.

But please, stop with the 'not good for the rest of the fandom'. This is literally just the 'Derpy dilemma' all over again; people will forget in a few weeks save the vocal minority who'll keep bitching.

[Mundius]

But please, stop with the 'not good for the rest of the fandom'. This is literally just the 'Derpy dilemma' all over again; people will forget in a few weeks save the vocal minority who'll keep bitching.

I want Derpy to be back to normal, but I know that's unlikely to happen. ;_;

Anyway, yeah, fuck this. Let's make our own Fighting is Magic. With blackjack. And hookers. And crucifixion.

[Sonarch]

I only skimmed everything that was said here, but I just feel really bad for those poor guys on the Mane6 team who have put in so much time and effort to make this thing, and only now Hasbro comes in with a C&D for it, and there was no profiting going on at all. On top of that, I was really excited despite never having played a fighting game before, so now i'm super bummed.

TL;DR I quit everything.

[Sonarch]

And I was just linked to this, thoughts?

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/526/847/063/allow-the-continuation-of-the-development-of-mane6s-mlp-fighting-is-magic/