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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Nine Volt » 04 May 2013 21:50

No, don't make it pony related if it doesn't need to be. It doesn't matter if it's pony or not.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Spectrum » 04 May 2013 21:59

I may have to make one of them pony related because DW2 expects it to be pony related.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Spectrum » 04 May 2013 23:15

I think this will be the decider: Would you except a song that changes from 100bpm to 130bpm?
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby LFP » 05 May 2013 04:09

I don't think it matters as long as the bpm change doesn't happen in the very end or the start, in which case it matters a lot :3
Not sure about having a 100 bpm in the start either, I'm pretty sure Hmage can do it well, but it'll be a song that sticks out a lot from the rest.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby v.lossity » 05 May 2013 05:36

you could always just start it off with a standard 130 bpm house intro that segues into the 100 bpm section.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Nine Volt » 05 May 2013 11:31

eery wrote:Here's a wip from me! doesn't have a proper intro, but I'm quite happy with it so far.

https://soundcloud.com/eerieglow/filterhouse-for-four-on-the

feedback would be much loved.

I agree with hackd, the phaser is a bit strong and it really cuts all the power from that intro section. That piano could do with being wetter, a longer release and delay and/or more reverb would sound nice. Transition into the second segment could use some work as well. That resonant saw towards the end is too resonant, almost piercing. Your chorus is really lacking in oomph, try giving it some more bass and low-mid sounds, right now it's kinda thin and wispy almost.

hackd wrote: https://soundcloud.com/hackdsounds/acid-house-wip
Looking for some feedback. I'll come back to this in like a week with fresh ideas; this is just what I was able to grind out today.

I can't stand writing house drumlines anymore so I went with a moombah/club rhythm. And I played around with formant filters lol.

I like the moombah-ish intro drums. Also, obv formant filter :P. Then it drops and there's no sub. Where'd your sub go? Sidechain it a bit more and it'd be good, maybe layer another sidechain compressor with a lower ratio (if your first is infinite:1 then the second should be a little about 4:1 or something; play around with it). The formant filter is a bit boring by the halfway mark. It also feels a bit out of time. Try adding some distortion to those vocals, maybe some light bitcrushing or overdrive to give it a nice crunchy sound to go along with the rest of the song. You should play around with inverting the modulation of the formant's X and Y parameters, as well as the gender more. Invert the modulation or something (100 to -100 or vice versa, or do something less than fully). The biggest problems are the lack of a sub and the fact that the kick is being hidden behind the un-sidechained stuff. Sidechain everything. EVERYTHING. Not the master though, that's one of the deadly sins of house.

UltimateRiff wrote:I've already started work on my track:

http://soundcloud.com/ultimateriff/4otf2-wip-2

Needless to say, I'm in!

SORRY FOR BEING SO LATE ;_;
I think that kick could use some more mid thump, around 100hz, though I like the clickiness. I don't like that clap, I generally find more snappy, crunchy claps to be better. That bassline is... something is wrong with it. It like clips or something at the beginning. Too much phasing or filtering or whatever. Not a bad pattern though. It also totally ruins the punchiness of that kick, so sidechain it harder. Double sidechain if necessary. It's a short WIP though, so I can't really criticize much more. Not a bad start though.

mrwassabi98 wrote:Pretty much got started on this straight away.
WIP of my track after 2 days.

https://soundcloud.com/mr-wassabi/wip-for-a-thing

Again, sorry for the wait ;-;
Something about those hats really bothers me. They're too wide in the stereo spectrum. That square synth gets really, almost piercingly high pitched towards the end of the first segment, and that one hat right before the supersaw. That supersaw is indeed very Avicii feeling; it's good, definitely keep that. Maybe lowpass a tiny bit off the very top end though. Once it drops, there's like no sub, which is a problem. Also, it's sidechained very lightly and doesn't feel too dancy, though I like the melody a lot. Sidechain harder.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Spectrum » 05 May 2013 13:36

LFP wrote:I don't think it matters as long as the bpm change doesn't happen in the very end or the start, in which case it matters a lot :3
Not sure about having a 100 bpm in the start either, I'm pretty sure Hmage can do it well, but it'll be a song that sticks out a lot from the rest.

The first minute or so are at 100bpm and then it changes to 130

v.lossity wrote:you could always just start it off with a standard 130 bpm house intro that segues into the 100 bpm section.

It is a 100bpm ambient sounding intro that goes on for about a minute, and then it changes to a 130bpm house song.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Nine Volt » 05 May 2013 13:39

Like Strobe? Well what most people do with Strobe is take out the ambient style intro and start with the drum section, so how bout submitting a club mix (ie the part without the ambient intro and with a mixable intro) to this album then having the actual release feature the ambient intro?
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Spectrum » 05 May 2013 14:31

Here are the two WIP's that I was talking about. Nine Volt, which would you rather have on the album? (they will be finished)

Faxing Toronto (WIP):
https://soundcloud.com/official-spectrum/faxing-toronto-update-2

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Leaving (WIP):
https://soundcloud.com/official-spectrum/leaving-wip-update

Also, feedback on both of them would be appreciated...
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Spectrum » 05 May 2013 14:34

Nine Volt wrote:Like Strobe? Well what most people do with Strobe is take out the ambient style intro and start with the drum section, so how bout submitting a club mix (ie the part without the ambient intro and with a mixable intro) to this album then having the actual release feature the ambient intro?


Kind of. The 100bpm-130bpm is "Leaving". I just posted it and it is in my signature.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Nine Volt » 05 May 2013 15:29

Faxing Toronto, very clever reference (well, it's kinda obvious actually :P). Those chords seem a bit empty in the lower register, maybe copy the bassline down an octave? I like that arp, but it has no direction and I can't tell if that was intentional or not. Basically it sounds like something that came out of an arpeggiator. Also, using the same cymbal throughout it a bit boring, just a heads up. Those chords are rather repetitive by the end but that's about it.

I feel like Leaving's intro progressed too fast in the beginning. Everything kinda came in really quickly. Then you've got the piano, which I think you should play around with the velocities of the notes so it's not so static. I'm really liking the ambiance though, it's nice and the flute is a great touch. May I ask where you got the background rain samples from (I assume they're samples). When the beat drops the chords are a bit too quiet just at the very beginning. That clap is alright (not my kind of clap though), but that hat/ride thing is a bit too loud. Just a bit. It's really pretty good.

In my opinion Leaving is better, but I'm not sure how good it would be if you removed the intro; at the moment, that's why it's better.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Spectrum » 05 May 2013 18:00

Nine Volt wrote:Faxing Toronto, very clever reference (well, it's kinda obvious actually :P). Those chords seem a bit empty in the lower register, maybe copy the bassline down an octave? I like that arp, but it has no direction and I can't tell if that was intentional or not. Basically it sounds like something that came out of an arpeggiator. Also, using the same cymbal throughout it a bit boring, just a heads up. Those chords are rather repetitive by the end but that's about it.

I feel like Leaving's intro progressed too fast in the beginning. Everything kinda came in really quickly. Then you've got the piano, which I think you should play around with the velocities of the notes so it's not so static. I'm really liking the ambiance though, it's nice and the flute is a great touch. May I ask where you got the background rain samples from (I assume they're samples). When the beat drops the chords are a bit too quiet just at the very beginning. That clap is alright (not my kind of clap though), but that hat/ride thing is a bit too loud. Just a bit. It's really pretty good.

In my opinion Leaving is better, but I'm not sure how good it would be if you removed the intro; at the moment, that's why it's better.

I started Faxing Toronto a few months ago and pretty much made that entire thing back then and I didn't have very good mastering skills (I haven't really touched it at all since then), and I agree with the cymbals thing. The melody (the arp) was intentional. It doesn't go above C until it breaks into like that solo kind of thing (intentional). I can change those chords.

I guess I can make the intro longer and maybe add a drum loop intro like you (or maybe it was someone else) said before. I can mess around with velocities. That flute isn't a flute; it's a lead synth sound that I made a while back and i use it often. http://www.soundjay.com/rain-sound-effect.html . The chords were intentionally made quieter, but I can increase the volume. I think that this is the first time i've really ever used a clap, so i'm still new to it. I was going for a mau5y kind of sounding clap. I'll turn down the ride volume, I agree with that.

I have another question: I have only been producing EDM for about 5 months now, and I feel like i've been advancing lately quality wise. Leaving is one of the best songs i've made so far. So here's my question- how would you honestly rate Leaving on a scale of 1-20, 1 being the worst thing you've ever heard and 20 being the best thing you've ever heard?
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Nine Volt » 05 May 2013 18:03

In its current state, maybe a... 13 or 14? It's hard to rate songs on a scale :/
The intro is in my opinion the best part of it.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Spectrum » 05 May 2013 18:05

Ok. I'll make the intro longer since it's good apparently. haha
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Nine Volt » 05 May 2013 18:08

If you're looking for a mau5y clap, try getting a 'snappier' one. Maybe layer with a snare or something.

I'll let you in on a secret of deadmau5:
For some of his songs (such as Soma), he recorded himself slapping his own ass then layered it with several more recordings of the same thing. Hey, if it works...
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Ocular » 06 May 2013 09:38

Hell, I might even start a second track after I get the vocals for the first one.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby TranquilHooves » 06 May 2013 14:12

Nine Volt wrote:If you're looking for a mau5y clap, try getting a 'snappier' one. Maybe layer with a snare or something.

I'll let you in on a secret of deadmau5:
For some of his songs (such as Soma), he recorded himself slapping his own ass then layered it with several more recordings of the same thing. Hey, if it works...

Hey, I thought he did that for The Veldt too...
Oh, and I'm probably gonna get in on this considering I missed the last one.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Nine Volt » 06 May 2013 14:14

TranquilHooves wrote:
Nine Volt wrote:If you're looking for a mau5y clap, try getting a 'snappier' one. Maybe layer with a snare or something.

I'll let you in on a secret of deadmau5:
For some of his songs (such as Soma), he recorded himself slapping his own ass then layered it with several more recordings of the same thing. Hey, if it works...

Hey, I thought he did that for The Veldt too...
Oh, and I'm probably gonna get in on this considering I missed the last one.

I had to go back and check to see if The Veldt even had a clap ;_;

And welcome aboard! :3
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Nine Volt » 06 May 2013 15:02

TheBronyChip wrote:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/94253980/soundtests/winterhouseupwip.mp3

heres a small wip

is there any chance this could make it on the album?

Nice kick in the beginning, nice and simple intro. That clap is maybe a bit long, nothing horrible though. Those hats are a bit loud. That vocoder is making it sound like she wants to eat my soul. Also the vocals are a bit loud in comparison to the rather simply designed bass. Those shuffle-y plucks are odd, they seem a bit out of time. Like they were written in triplets and the rest of the song not designed for it or something. That high phasey synth is too loud as well. Applejack's part just sounds weird; I don't like the vocals. That cymbal could do with some longer tail, reverb or delay or something. You should change up the bass more than just at the end. Twilight (maybe rarity, honestly can't tell and I've never heard the original)'s part at the end is odd sounding too. Actually, the vocals just sound out of time, especially with the stuttered parts, work on that and it'll sound a lot better after the mixing issue is fixed. The song seems to end rather abruptly; like 3 or 4 elements just suddenly drop out without even much release or an end note or anything, then it just drops into the outro.

Also, for the vocals, try adding a lot more effects, especially reverb and delay as well as compression and sidechaining. In fact, the only things you shouldn't sidechain are drum and percussive elements, and don't route them all to one sidechain bus. If you sidechain compress the bass with the same ratio as you compress the vocals, it won't sound good.

In short, mixing (focus on this) and some composition needs work, but I don't see why it couldn't be on the album :3

Now, if only I could critique my own tracks like that...
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Sonarch » 06 May 2013 15:17

I can't believe it's taken me this long to notice that this was here.
ANYWAY, this week is the start of my AP tests, so once they're all done I shall have loads more free time, and I do believe I shall try and become adept enough at house to whip something up for this as soon as the aforementioned tests are over :3

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Nine Volt wrote:I'll let you in on a secret of deadmau5:
For some of his songs (such as Soma), he recorded himself slapping his own ass then layered it with several more recordings of the same thing.

I find this to be hilarious. I had no idea...
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Nine Volt » 06 May 2013 15:45

TheBronyChip wrote:i might just remove the vocals completely they are nothing but shit sound like shit and well are shit
other then that i have yet to mix it cause its just a rough idea

I always mix during the production of the song; I've never just set aside time for mixing. I like to think my tracks are pretty well mixed. That's just how I work though, I suppose

Also Sonarch yay!
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Alycs » 06 May 2013 16:04

I, too, have AP tests this week, but I have the beginnings of a track I've started that I'm really liking, so I might continue that.

Okay, this the song that I'm thinking of developing:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/pmo ... 0Final.mp3

The vocals are place-holder for now.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Firenze Storm » 06 May 2013 21:06

https://soundcloud.com/firenze-storm/house-2-wip/s-b14nL

I have done nigh on any work for this album. This is 10 minutes tops worth of pissing around in Toxic Biohazard and playing.

I get reeeally bored at 3am.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Nine Volt » 11 May 2013 13:11

Firenze Storm wrote: https://soundcloud.com/firenze-storm/house-2-wip/s-b14nL

I have done nigh on any work for this album. This is 10 minutes tops worth of pissing around in Toxic Biohazard and playing.

I get reeeally bored at 3am.

Intro sounds good, cept for that part at the end where the bass goes up in pitch. I don't like that part. That snare is 'eh' sounding. Not very good IMO, also clips a bit at places. I don't like the pitch changes in that higher gated/stuttery synth. Other than that it sounds good so far.
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Re: Four on the Floor 2 (Community House Mix Part Deux)

Postby Sonarch » 12 May 2013 01:57

Oh my god every time I see this I think the title says "Community Horse Mix" and then I just laugh to myself.
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