BronyMusic.com Genre Section

[Freewave]

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know we opened up a genre section to the site this last week after working on for a few days straight in a row (took 2 additional days off that made it possible)

http://bronymusiciandirectory.blogspot. ... ction.html

I tried to cover the major genres that i see coming from the brony community and most of these are pretty large scale genres and styles. While some of these aren't that adopted (acoustic, experimental, and country) there were still some cases where they'd get quite a few results and be able to steer people towards artists who do them. Ultimately this is a start to get up such a section, help people find artists who specialize in a style that you might seek out.

I need to actually add genre names in people's descriptions/write-ups for those artists to show up in searches so if you see particular artists who don't show in those genre searches (sometimes they show up on page 2 tbh) they can certainly be added after the fact to make the blog better and get more accurate results. Also some genres might need to get added or purged if there is a demand for either. Someone commented on electro being absent and while i think dubstep and house do a good job of getting most of the electro as a style (most electro is actually electro house) it may ultimately need its own category if people think that's a good future addition (likewise Glitch if people really see that as an adopted genre or STYLE, maybe PPS and Tei under this for example). Since each genre has its own page and a few great examples of each i also wanted to say that if people want to submit fav artists or a top 10 fav tracks by genre that i'd be glad to see that feedback in comments on the blog. But I hope people find this new section useful and recommend improvements if they have any recommendations as I'm always aiming to improve things on there if i can if I get some feedback especially if its from that community its supposed to be helping.

[CDPP]

Also some genres might need to get added or purged if there is a demand for either. Someone commented on electro being absent and while i think dubstep and house do a good job of getting most of the electro as a style (most electro is actually electro house) it may ultimately need its own category if people think that's a good future addition (likewise Glitch if people really see that as an adopted genre or STYLE, maybe PPS and Tei under this for example).

Just checked out the site and oh my god it's a like a hipster treasure trove of vastly under-appreciated artists! Though I would recommend grouping Nu-Jazz, Swinghouse and Electroswing into a separate genre altogether.

[Freewave]

While I'm perfectly happy with people using those subgenres we're going to use the genre section for the larger size parent genres and mass groupings. Do check out this site for the individual breakdowns although it highlights only 1 track for each smaller genre. A cool site on its own.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12pM ... w?sle=true
Hopefully people are tagging any of their vids on ytube with those particular genre names so those can easily be found.

[MudPony]

Possibly have some more general categories that break down into more specific ones? Having it break down that way would seem to provide a few advantages, among them:

1. People not familiar with the sub-genres can find stuff easier. People come up with all sorts of fancy titles for what this or that is, but to the ley person it is just the general heading. Someone might not know what Complextro is, but they might know they like house music, of which Complextro is apparently a sub-sub-genre.

2. When you've got a sub-genre, the main genre still applies. If a death or prog metal category got added, for example, it'd still be metal. So if it goes House -> Electro House -> Complextro, well, Complextro is House.

3. Easier to navigate for users. Shorter list, so easier to find Jazz on it. The items for each sub-category could also be alphabetized, to make it even easier to find. Not saying it is hard currently, but, well, easier is easier

4. Less hassle with the addition of new categories. If you added sub-categories for dubstep, for example, you'd have to reevaluate where everyone on the list goes and people that used to look in dubstep, might not know where to go look now. With a tree like approach, the artists will still be pretty close to where they ought to be, so less need to move them quickly, less confusion caused by moving them or not having moved them yet.

5. If you've got an artist that experiments with the sub genres of a more broad one, might make it easier to know where to place him (the general category) rather than to every sub category he happens to do a song for.

6. Can add sub categories for less popular styles without the clutter. Which is nice, as prog metal is quite a bit different from doom, thrash, or death metal, for people with specific tastes within the more general category.

Alternately, at the least, there ought to be some sort of thing that tells you what each genre is.

Also, the chiptune category could use an "8-bit" sub-title, as I'd expect that the average person is more likely to know it by that name than chiptune.

[K3WRO]

Let's just make catagories

Example:

House -> Complextro

Trance -> Goa/Psychedelic

Drum and Bass -> Neurofunk

Downtempo -> ambient

Breakbeat -> Hip-hop

Techno -> Gloomcore

IDM -> Glitch

Something like that

[MorteMcAdaver]

There's a Gloomcore? Sounds entirely up my alley.

[K3WRO]

There's a Gloomcore? Sounds entirely up my alley.

It's like techno, except it's um... gloomy

hardcore microtech perhaps?

[natsukashi]

I'm considering if I'm IDM, DnB or Hardcore. ;_;

[K3WRO]

so, who's making the "list of musicians who work with this genre"?

I also think IDM should be separate from complextro.

[Freewave]

Also, the chiptune category could use an "8-bit" sub-title, as I'd expect that the average person is more likely to know it by that name than chiptune.

Well it's in the write-up in here but chiptune is generally the more accepted name i've found.

so, who's making the "list of musicians who work with this genre"?

I also think IDM should be separate from complextro.

Well we make individual write-ups on the artist's post and if there's applicable genres then we need to get those in those write-ups. So if you see any multiple artists missing from a particular genre you can put those artists names in that genre page. If it's one artists entry that's need editing then you can leave comments on their artist page if they need so. Again, the blog will update and be more reliable if people add comments on where we are lacking and we can add, edit, and improve.

I'll be honest, I may have fumbled with complextro and may need to re-evaluate what that means as i may have a bad grasp of that compared to others. I keep hearing sub-genre of house and now that I'm reading more about it I may have mis-judged what it truly means. I may just take that off (and leave idm by itself) and add Electro in general as there seems to be shared characteristics (although a little more complex). OR I could keep complextro under house.

I can also mention subgenre styles in those parent genres AND link to subgenres through searches from those pages as search for "french" or "progressive" under house would yield some results from google search.

Feel free to make comments in this thread of course as we can take action in here too.

[Captain Ironhelm]

best pony for best genre.

I'm assuming that artists can be tagged with multiple genres? Cuz I know some people are good at more than one thing. (Shoot me now for being too lazy to check it myself.)

[Freewave]

I'm assuming that artists can be tagged with multiple genres? Cuz I know some people are good at more than one thing. (Shoot me now for being too lazy to check it myself.)

Sure, kind of a max of 3 though. If you vary in style more then that then its hard to say you specialize in any style if you actually don't. I'm a bad candidate for showing up in search results as I don't specialize in any individual style of dance music. As I state below let us know in the comments section of your profile IF you want anything added or edited to your profile.

If it's not possible to build an ambient category, I feel that I should be added to the Experimental category, considering you already have artists in there.

We can gladly add you to downtempo (which would include ambient) or experimental if you feel that is where you fit. There's really not enough artists to constitute an ambient / beatless downtempo category. If an artist wants to have specific genre tags added into the description of their entry then what we would recommend is having them put that in the comments section of their profile page and we'll fix it from there.

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I didn't find the time but I will likely add an electro category as quite a bit of that doesn't truly fit nicely as house and would include some electropop artists (Jackleapp / H8Seed). Pulled out Complextro from IDM as they are more different then alike.

[Freewave]

Well it's been a few months of use. I need to know how well the genre page is working for people and if i need to expand http://bronymusiciandirectory.blogspot. ... ction.html

Was thinking of maybe adding a Retro label (80's Cheerilee) for those who pilfer more from the past (such as my pal Mush) with synthpop or disco. If anyone would like to suggest any MAJOR genres missing or artists from those genres that would be missing i'd love to improve it if possible.

[Navron]

Navron is still wondering wtf genre he belongs in. Progressive Progressive?

[topitmunkeydog]

How! This is a great idea! My one criticism of the main blog thing is that you have a ton of representation for the many genres of electronic music, but not much for acoustic, etc. I love the Google Docs thing, though!! I discovered soooo much new awesome music through it! Thank you sooo much!

[Freewave]

Navron is still wondering wtf genre he belongs in. Progressive Progressive?

Awesome is not a genre, I'm afraid

I'm also thinking we may have music out there to fit Darkwave genre maybe? (NACP, Pixeltripper, Psychogoth, Sand Josieph-Daddy Discord). Would you feel you fit such a categorization?




Might have enough songs out there for Trap maybe... (Chrsysalis)

[Freewave]

How! This is a great idea! My one criticism of the main blog thing is that you have a ton of representation for the many genres of electronic music, but not much for acoustic, etc. I love the Google Docs thing, though!! I discovered soooo much new awesome music through it! Thank you sooo much!

Any acoustic artists / songs that you would like us to include, I'd love to get more stuff on there.

[topitmunkeydog]

Actually what I meant is... There are 11 electronic genres and only 6 non-electronic. Like I know you are trying to keep it pretty general but I feel like there should be additional sections for stuff like Folk, Punk, "Alternative" (meaning rock that is not really mainstream rock as we know it), etc. I mean you've spread out the entire umbrella term of electronic music to its various subgenres like dubstep, house, chiptune, etc. But you have generalized a whole bunch of types of rock under one genre.
No matter what your decision is, this thing is immensely helpful for finding new music, so thank you

[Freewave]

Actually what I meant is... There are 11 electronic genres and only 6 non-electronic. Like I know you are trying to keep it pretty general but I feel like there should be additional sections for stuff like Folk, Punk, "Alternative" (meaning rock that is not really mainstream rock as we know it), etc. I mean you've spread out the entire umbrella term of electronic music to its various subgenres like dubstep, house, chiptune, etc. But you have generalized a whole bunch of types of rock under one genre.
No matter what your decision is, this thing is immensely helpful for finding new music, so thank you

Folk would probably be thrown in with acoustic but I had a discussion with Derpedity before he left BMD (he was with us very briefly but was just too busy) and he said the same thing about Rock being to general. I could do an Alternative (that could include punk rock) but I also need to find out if there's enough actual music to justify it. What artists would you (this is to ANYONE reading this thread) recommend that would fit it?

[itroitnyah]

how many people, do you suppose, are going to complain that Derpy was used for the dubstep button instead of scratch?

[ghelded_kultz]

IMO there's not enough brony rock to justify splitting it beyond rock and metal (And the way I interpert it, a lot of the brony rock is "alternative" anyway, so making such a distinction would gut the rock section). I do think that ambient should be split off from downtempo though (admittedly I have no clue if this is justified).

Also, synthpop (or retro I guess) is a must.

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Other Kult here, here is a rough sample of Brony Alternative/Rock/Metal musicians I know of.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kLW ... sp=sharing

Make your conclusions from there.

-Soft D. String DeHooves

[Navron]

Navron is still wondering wtf genre he belongs in. Progressive Progressive?

Awesome is not a genre, I'm afraid

I'm also thinking we may have music out there to fit Darkwave genre maybe? (NACP, Pixeltripper, Psychogoth, Sand Josieph-Daddy Discord). Would you feel you fit such a categorization?




Might have enough songs out there for Trap maybe... (Chrsysalis)

After listening to a few mixes and reading up on some definitions, it definitely seems like darkwave's a pretty broad genre, but it's definitely the closest I've found so far.

[Freewave]

I'll definitely try to get a Darkwave (Bab's Seed) and Synthpop (80's Cheerilee) genre up next then as it sounds like there's music out there to highlight. Rock is going to be kind of diverse i think as the alternative / non-alternative divisions really aren't that pronounced enough to warrant a split. Again if you pull up a genre and don't see someone labeled IN that genre that SHOULD be that's where i really need help as i'd like the site to pull up good results and make it easier for people to find the brony music they are actually after. I have to add those genre names it looks for in the artist profiles themselves to make that happen.

Also many people either helped write their own profile or never have (in the early days we did this all ourselves) and the site is supposed to be designed that the musician themselves can decide what to put on there and what music to highlight. If people haven't updated or would like to it's a great idea to make a comment in your profile page so its current and shows yourself off as you would like to represent yourself.

By the way as many in my staff have school, work, and do music on top of that we've always had a bit of issues juggling responsibilities. While I don't think we've ever had a big queue or not gotten around to updating the site we are willing to take on additional people who feel they'd like to be more proactive role and get involved in the community and would like to assist with the site. If anyone is interested let me know as it doesn't really take a lot of time or effort.

[Freewave]

how many people, do you suppose, are going to complain that Derpy was used for the dubstep button instead of scratch?

Haven't heard any. She's likely the most popular background pony and while many people say dubstep is dumb, clumsy, and unintelligent the kids still like it a lot and rally around it. Same with Derpy.

[ghelded_kultz]

By the way as many in my staff have school, work, and do music on top of that we've always had a bit of issues juggling responsibilities. While I don't think we've ever had a big queue or not gotten around to updating the site we are willing to take on additional people who feel they'd like to be more proactive role and get involved in the community and would like to assist with the site. If anyone is interested let me know as it doesn't really take a lot of time or effort.

I'm willing to help out. I also need to get around to making our profile. I think we've released enough almost-music to qualify.