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Re: Music Genres

Postby Motivfs » 13 Feb 2013 20:16

Sonarch, btw, Mainstream DnB as I call it, is just good old DnB. Also, there is Ultra-funk which is another subgenre of DnB, Drumstep is also a subgenre of DnB, not Dubstep.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Mr. Bigglesworth » 13 Feb 2013 20:18

Dubstep has a ridiculous amount of subgenres. I like to keep it simple.

Old School Dubstep
Modernized Dubstep
Chillstep
100 bpm/low tempo Dubstep
Liquid Dubstep

that's all I really see as necesary.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby colortwelve » 13 Feb 2013 20:29

Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:Dubstep has a ridiculous amount of subgenres. I like to keep it simple.

Old School Dubstep
Modernized Dubstep
Chillstep
100 bpm/low tempo Dubstep
Liquid Dubstep

that's all I really see as necesary.

I'd lump 'chillstep' with liquid dubstep. Both are naturally more chill than their Transformers sex cousins. Also, if it's 100bpm, it's either moombah (which I still don't actually consider a genre) or glitch-hop, which is well-defined enough to be its own subgenre of bass music, not dubstep.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby WavesOfParadox » 13 Feb 2013 20:52

For classical music, it would probably be best to categorize with era. However, with the 20th century, classical music becomes extremely diverse. It would probably be best to characterize with stylistic movements.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Sonarch » 13 Feb 2013 21:42

Okay, can someone help me out with the order this stuff should be added? I've put in House and Drum and Bass and a few subgenres, and i'm not sure where to go from there (i'm working on electronic first, since it sounds like it's not as large as non-electronic seeing as stuff like rock and metal have so many subgenres)


also I was looking up Moombahton, and Wikipedia says it's a fusion of house and reggaeton, reggaeton in turn being from Latin and Caribbean style music like reggae and salsa


does that all sound legitimate?


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Re: Music Genres

Postby ghelded_kultz » 14 Feb 2013 00:23

Moobahton (and moobahcore for that matter) is a legit genre. So is reggaeton.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Sonarch » 14 Feb 2013 13:43

So does moombahcore branch from moombahton then? And would it branch from anything else at the same time?
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Nine Volt » 14 Feb 2013 14:04

Do you plan on including fusion genres like dubstyle?

Just to throw some genres out there:
Darkstyle
Darkstep (not related to dubstep)
Techstep (ditto)
Neurofunk
Gabber
Goa
Psytrance
Synth pop
Dub
2-Step
Future Garage
Chillwave
Darkwave
Ethereal wave
Moombahton
Moombahcore
Breakbeat
Happy hardcore
Jungle
Reggaeton
Liquid dnb
Crossbreed

That's just the ones I could think of off the top of my head. This is a daunting task, good luck.

And yes, moombahton/core are legit genres.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Sonarch » 14 Feb 2013 14:23

Nine Volt wrote:Do you plan on including fusion genres like dubstyle?

Just to throw some genres out there:
Darkstyle
Darkstep (not related to dubstep)
Techstep (ditto)
Neurofunk
Gabber
Goa
Psytrance
Synth pop
Dub
2-Step
Future Garage
Chillwave
Darkwave
Ethereal wave
Moombahton
Moombahcore
Breakbeat
Happy hardcore
Jungle
Reggaeton
Liquid dnb
Crossbreed

That's just the ones I could think of off the top of my head. This is a daunting task, good luck.

And yes, moombahton/core are legit genres.

So where does stuff like Breakcore or 2step branch from? Or most of it, for that matter?

Also, I tossed some more stuff on the genre web, so OP is updated.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Nine Volt » 14 Feb 2013 14:32

2-step branches from UK garage music, which itself comes from house.
Breakcore is influences by techno, drum and bass, and industrial but doesn't directly descend from any of those.
Darkstyle originates from hardstyle with influences of industrial. Spoontech Records has a bunch of examples.
Darkstep originates from techstep and shares similarities with neurofunk and takes influence from darkcore.
Techstep is a dnb subgenre taking inspiration from techno and industrial.
Neurofunk came from techstep, though because techstep is really not produced anymore, neurofunk is basically a dnb subgenre with funk influences.
Jungle is similar to dnb and takes influences from dub/reggae and breakbeat hardcore.
Dubstyle, for the record, is a fusion of dubstep and hardstyle.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Sonarch » 14 Feb 2013 16:46

Nine Volt wrote:2-step branches from UK garage music, which itself comes from house.
Breakcore is influences by techno, drum and bass, and industrial but doesn't directly descend from any of those.
Darkstyle originates from hardstyle with influences of industrial. Spoontech Records has a bunch of examples.
Darkstep originates from techstep and shares similarities with neurofunk and takes influence from darkcore.
Techstep is a dnb subgenre taking inspiration from techno and industrial.
Neurofunk came from techstep, though because techstep is really not produced anymore, neurofunk is basically a dnb subgenre with funk influences.
Jungle is similar to dnb and takes influences from dub/reggae and breakbeat hardcore.
Dubstyle, for the record, is a fusion of dubstep and hardstyle.

Why thank you, kind sir. This will be useful in adding to the web.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Sonarch » 14 Feb 2013 17:09

/me does

According to this, there are only 841 genres ever

and the little made-up genre maker at the bottom is great. It's given me: "jangly gangsta metal, ethnic industrial dance, intergalactic orchestral house, emo orchestral rap, insipid eurogospel, backward urban chant, pretentious hardcore gospel, and regressive a-capella noise" this thing is great.


the thing I refer to is this site
http://qntm.org/genres
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Nine Volt » 14 Feb 2013 17:23

Kyoga you passed 4000 posts. Congrats.

Also, because I left out some of the genres before, let me explain each one that I didn't explain before.

Gabber is a subgenre of hardcore/hardstyle and is similar to the latter. Gabber tends to have a more messy kick and is generally darker, however it is distinct from darkstyle.
Goa is a form of trance music, similar to psytrance but distinct in its own right.
Psytrance is a genre similar to trance, but also distinct, commonly connected to the hippie culture. Psytrance has several of its own subgenres, including full on, dark, progressive, and psybient.
Synth pop is a subgenre of pop music that primarily uses synthesizers (ie every modern pop song).
Dub originated from reggae and was itself one of the origins of early dubstep.
Future garage is Burial. No, it is in fact an effort by UK garage producers to bring the genre back to its roots.
Chillwave is a retraux style music taking inspiration from synth pop, IDM, and ambient, among others.
Darkwave is a style related to New Wave. Pretty much New Wave, but darker.
Ethereal wave is a subgenre of darkwave.
Skipping moombahwhatever genres because you guys got it.
Happy hardcore is a subgenre of hardcore techno. Similar to gabber.
Reggaeton is essentially reggae + hip hop + Spanish.
Liquid dnb is a subgenre of dnb (surpised?)
Crossbreed is a subgenre of hardcore. Think Gancher.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Sonarch » 14 Feb 2013 18:03

Cool, thanks Nine.

So there's nothing inherently incorrect about what's on the web right now, right?
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Nine Volt » 14 Feb 2013 18:26

Yeah, the web is accurate. Be sure to connect electro and complextro (and electro house) when you add it.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Sonarch » 14 Feb 2013 18:55

...okay so what exactly is Electro?
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Re: Music Genres

Postby ghelded_kultz » 14 Feb 2013 19:02

^ A couple different things. It's short for electro-funk and was one of the first EDM genres. It's also the name for a possibly unrelated genre of house, typified by the sound of it's basses
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Sonarch » 14 Feb 2013 19:04

Oh, alright. I always thought it was just a generic blanket term for most electronic music.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby ghelded_kultz » 14 Feb 2013 19:14

Looking at the web so far.

Acid House is much older than electro house. In fact Electro house might have come out of acid.
Moobahcore is Moobahton plus Dubstep (according to Wikipedia)
Dubstep comes from 2-step garage which I think comes from UK garage which comes from New York garage (?).
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Sonarch » 14 Feb 2013 21:23

ghelded_kultz wrote:Looking at the web so far.

Acid House is much older than electro house. In fact Electro house might have come out of acid.
Moobahcore is Moobahton plus Dubstep (according to Wikipedia)
Dubstep comes from 2-step garage which I think comes from UK garage which comes from New York garage (?).

Ah, alright. I just got Acid House from Wikipedia, which said it was a subgenre of electro hosue but I can fix it tomorrow.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby ph00tbag » 15 Feb 2013 00:44

Goa is usually treated by most psytrance listeners as a subgenre of psytrance. The only people that don't see it this way are the old school hippies from the original goa parties. But they really are in the minority, these days.
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Re: Music Genres

Postby XXDarkShadow79XX » 15 Feb 2013 09:38

colortwelve wrote:
XXDarkShadow79XX wrote:Corestep

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Re: Music Genres

Postby Freewave » 15 Feb 2013 10:28

colortwelve wrote:
Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:Dubstep has a ridiculous amount of subgenres. I like to keep it simple.

Old School Dubstep
Modernized Dubstep
Chillstep
100 bpm/low tempo Dubstep
Liquid Dubstep

that's all I really see as necesary.

I'd lump 'chillstep' with liquid dubstep. Both are naturally more chill than their Transformers sex cousins. Also, if it's 100bpm, it's either moombah (which I still don't actually consider a genre) or glitch-hop, which is well-defined enough to be its own subgenre of bass music, not dubstep.


Lotta paraphrasing here.

Liquid Dubstep looks ok
You could call Old School Dubstep .....UK Dubstep (a bit more descriptive and many are starting to use that)

You forgot
Purple Sound (very g-funk influenced, artists like Joker) http://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScient ... rple_sound
Wonky (off-beat, drunken rhyhtm) http://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScient ... set__wonky
Modern CAN often known as Brostep or Filthstep but maybe the latter is more its own real split off. http://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScient ... _filthstep

There's also the Post-Dubstep stuff that James Blake is making that's a bit more IDM based. Some of that might be labeled as UK Bass. There's also Future Garage which is less dubstep and more of picking up the remains of UK Garage in a modern setting. Since Burial is often a bad example OF even UK dubstep many are including him in there as it's more of a UK Garage / 2-step influence. http://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScient ... ure_garage
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Sonarch » 15 Feb 2013 17:27

Freewave wrote:There's also the Post-Dubstep stuff that James Blake is making that's a bit more IDM based. Some of that might be labeled as UK Bass. There's also Future Garage which is less dubstep and more of picking up the remains of UK Garage in a modern setting. Since Burial is often a bad example OF even UK dubstep many are including him in there as it's more of a UK Garage / 2-step influence. http://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScient ... ure_garage


So would Future Garage come off Dubstep or UK Garage? Or both?
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Re: Music Genres

Postby Freewave » 15 Feb 2013 17:51

A little of both but more focusing on uk garage which it all evolved from (take a listen) and see what you think. It's more about re-creating 2-step but almost a decade after dubstep came into the picture. Since dubstep evolved out of 2-step it's not a massive departure.
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