Navron wrote:If you're not dedicated to the production of music then why are you here in the first place?
You're driving off a lot of awesome musicians who used to be a part of this community, because they actually take music seriously.
If you think you're going to get your hand held all the way to the top, or if you don't give music your 100% in dedication and focus, then I only have one word of advice: Quit
the4thImpulse wrote:If I were a mod I would honestly start day banning many many people because of all the worthless chatter in almost every sub forum. I remember when I first joined and most everybody here at the time produced music and helped others with their music, now I can count with my fingers alone the amount of truly helpful people. Since April that year a few certain people joined and turned the forum upside down and pushed all of us 'musicians' out, now anyone new to MLR adopts their was and nothing gets done.
Lavender_Harmony wrote:the4thImpulse wrote:If I were a mod I would honestly start day banning many many people because of all the worthless chatter in almost every sub forum. I remember when I first joined and most everybody here at the time produced music and helped others with their music, now I can count with my fingers alone the amount of truly helpful people. Since April that year a few certain people joined and turned the forum upside down and pushed all of us 'musicians' out, now anyone new to MLR adopts their was and nothing gets done.
I've been doing my best to not only help reverse the effects of the main musicians leaving and bring new talent and potential in. However, I have little free time in my day to spend on here, and I simply cannot go through every single forum thread looking for people derailing and spamming, it would take up too much of my time, and the mods we have are few and little in their activity.
You guys could help, and if you really want to better this place, there's a simple thing you can do that makes our lives a hell of a lot easier.
If you see a spammer or troll or someone derailing on purpose, or anything: use the damn report button. It means we don't have to go through every single thread, and I've come across times where a thread is basically being ruined, and nobody has reported it. I deal with it, and people thank me for dealing with it, but none of those people actually reported the problem?? I can't work miracles!!
Lavender_Harmony wrote:I help run this place.
As for my dedication to music... It's my job xD
the4thImpulse wrote:Lavender_Harmony wrote:the4thImpulse wrote:If I were a mod I would honestly start day banning many many people because of all the worthless chatter in almost every sub forum. I remember when I first joined and most everybody here at the time produced music and helped others with their music, now I can count with my fingers alone the amount of truly helpful people. Since April that year a few certain people joined and turned the forum upside down and pushed all of us 'musicians' out, now anyone new to MLR adopts their was and nothing gets done.
I've been doing my best to not only help reverse the effects of the main musicians leaving and bring new talent and potential in. However, I have little free time in my day to spend on here, and I simply cannot go through every single forum thread looking for people derailing and spamming, it would take up too much of my time, and the mods we have are few and little in their activity.
You guys could help, and if you really want to better this place, there's a simple thing you can do that makes our lives a hell of a lot easier.
If you see a spammer or troll or someone derailing on purpose, or anything: use the damn report button. It means we don't have to go through every single thread, and I've come across times where a thread is basically being ruined, and nobody has reported it. I deal with it, and people thank me for dealing with it, but none of those people actually reported the problem?? I can't work miracles!!
I know you and the few mods here are doing your best and your putting a lot of time in keeping these forums looking as best as they can, thank you. I have tried to do the reporting thing but I often lose interest because I never see any benefits first hand, sometimes I see the thread locked but that's it. I often feel that it gets overlooked or ignored or something because nothing seems to change. I know your reading it and doing something but I never get to witness it.
Lavender_Harmony wrote:You don't see the benefits because I do my job quietly without a fuss, I delete the posts or privately warn the user. If you expect to see them have their ass kicked publicly, you're mistaken. The times i have posted telling people to stop is when it has been an out of control group.
But hey, if you can't be bothered, then I don't think you mean anything you said in the first place. If you can't be bothered, why should we, if you don't appreciate what we do, just because you don't get to see it?
Enjoy your forum.
Peak Freak wrote:I can only agree partly with what you wrote, Navron, because some people aren't as dedicated as others, because music is only a small hobby/part of their lives. They maybe have a job in a complete different buisness, and take the 20 minutes they have left in the evening to have a little fun at making music, like some people play games or something. They don't really intend to get famous or something (if they do, then you are right, they shouldn't be here for that). And I don't think that MLR should be something like an elitist forum for brony musicians, where only the best of the best are: The newbies are just starting, they have no experience, and the amount of them is just to big, to handle all the feedback that is asked for.
What do I mean? If an already experienced musicians asks 100 newbies for feedback, feedback they cannot give at all, because they just don't know (and maybe don't answer at all, because they are afraid to admit that)---> that doesn't work out.Lavender_Harmony wrote:I help run this place.
As for my dedication to music... It's my job xD
Dito. And thanks again for that, Lavender, you are amazing ^.^
Lavender_Harmony wrote:You don't see the benefits because I do my job quietly without a fuss, I delete the posts or privately warn the user. If you expect to see them have their ass kicked publicly, you're mistaken. The times i have posted telling people to stop is when it has been an out of control group.
But hey, if you can't be bothered, then I don't think you mean anything you said in the first place. If you can't be bothered, why should we, if you don't appreciate what we do, just because you don't get to see it?
Enjoy your forum.
Nine Volt wrote:Haha, I have a feeling that you think I'm one of those who is only here to talk about off-topic shit (esp. because of the 15-20 posts a day thing).
Well, your wrong. The spam thread is fun because I like the people there and it's nice to be able to talk about whatever you want without having to worry about derailing.
Mondogreen wrote:If you don't make music, you shouldn't be on this forum. Period. Also, you should have a little experience under your belt so that you can contribute and be helpful. I know that everypony has to start somewhere, and I'm not saying that I'm better than anyone else, but all I've seen since I've been on the forum is either n00bs with n00b questions, oldfags that can't be bothered to answer any questions, and about ten people who know what they're doing AND have fun doing it. The elitists should stop taking this so seriously, and new guys should try learning on their own before asking questions.
LFP wrote:A critique for critique system wouldn't be a very bad idea, it would both give critique to more people and take away possible unserious/little-effort posts in there.
The problem is how we would do such a thing, you can't have a mod checking every post in there if he/she has given approperiate critique prior to that.
Another thing I've been thinking about is some kind of forum award for people who have been helpful (writing guides, helping new people, adding to a lot of conversations etc) hell even a little title on their name might help thrive people to do stuff like that!
But is all this going to be enough to bring back the forum to what it once was? -probably not the past is after all just the past, but it might just help it in the right direction.
There has been a lot of spam recently (I won't deny my participation in this) and perhaps adding another active mod to the team would get a lot of work done quicker and adding multiple opinions to certain matters (competition always brings the more fair prices ^^).
Mondogreen wrote:If you don't make music, you shouldn't be on this forum. Period. Also, you should have a little experience under your belt so that you can contribute and be helpful. I know that everypony has to start somewhere, and I'm not saying that I'm better than anyone else, but all I've seen since I've been on the forum is either n00bs with n00b questions, oldfags that can't be bothered to answer any questions, and about ten people who know what they're doing AND have fun doing it. The elitists should stop taking this so seriously, and new guys should try learning on their own before asking questions.
this is a good example of above mention, Skype chats are perfect ways to get feedback trough as most likely two or three people (provided group is decently small) will be discussing a matter. If one person posts a wip asking for feedback. It will now be directed towards the two persons and they'll have to either give the guy what he wanted, explain themself why they can't listen, or ignore it at the cost of becoming a douche in the other guys eyes.Fortunately, the people I met here and remain in touch with on Skype (most of the first batch of TLK, of whom I'm one of the only survivors here at MLR) remain willing to both give and receive feedback, so I've sort of developed my own little circle that's actually conducive to my development as a musician.
Nine Volt wrote:Yeah, I think we need a few more active mods. Lavender, Stars, and Makkon are the only ones regularly active
the4thImpulse wrote:Nine Volt wrote:Yeah, I think we need a few more active mods. Lavender, Stars, and Makkon are the only ones regularly active
I would throw my name in for that, I want to see MLR flourish and more active mods could only help.
LFP wrote:this is a good example of above mention, Skype chats are perfect ways to get feedback trough as most likely two or three people (provided group is decently small) will be discussing a matter. If one person posts a wip asking for feedback. It will now be directed towards the two persons and they'll have to either give the guy what he wanted, explain themself why they can't listen, or ignore it at the cost of becoming a douche in the other guys eyes.
LFP wrote:Splitting the music section into smaller groups would improve stuff a lot but the question remains to be answered is still 'How?'
That wouldn't work as you can't keep track of the people in x group, especially as you said the EDM group that is currently so popular.DrSorkenstein wrote:LFP wrote:this is a good example of above mention, Skype chats are perfect ways to get feedback trough as most likely two or three people (provided group is decently small) will be discussing a matter. If one person posts a wip asking for feedback. It will now be directed towards the two persons and they'll have to either give the guy what he wanted, explain themself why they can't listen, or ignore it at the cost of becoming a douche in the other guys eyes.
Having small skype groups is definately an option but how do you propose to get people invited into such skype groups?LFP wrote:Splitting the music section into smaller groups would improve stuff a lot but the question remains to be answered is still 'How?'
Splitting the music section into different boards by genre perhaps? (Although I fear the EDM board would be overrun immediately).
Haha, I have a feeling that you think I'm one of those who is only here to talk about off-topic shit (esp. because of the 15-20 posts a day thing).
Well, your wrong. The spam thread is fun because I like the people there and it's nice to be able to talk about whatever you want without having to worry about derailing.
I can only agree partly with what you wrote, Navron, because some people aren't as dedicated as others, because music is only a small hobby/part of their lives. They maybe have a job in a complete different buisness, and take the 20 minutes they have left in the evening to have a little fun at making music, like some people play games or something. They don't really intend to get famous or something (if they do, then you are right, they shouldn't be here for that). And I don't think that MLR should be something like an elitist forum for brony musicians, where only the best of the best are: The newbies are just starting, they have no experience, and the amount of them is just to big, to handle all the feedback that is asked for.
What do I mean? If an already experienced musicians asks 100 newbies for feedback, feedback they cannot give at all, because they just don't know (and maybe don't answer at all, because they are afraid to admit that)---> that doesn't work out.
Navron wrote:Haha, I have a feeling that you think I'm one of those who is only here to talk about off-topic shit (esp. because of the 15-20 posts a day thing).
Don't worry, you're only 1 of many, so my post was not a direct reference to you. My only question is, if you barely post music (I recall reading a post of yours before saying you haven't posted anything on MLR yet), then what is your main purpose of the forum?
Nine Volt wrote:Navron pls.
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All of those songs have their own threads in the music subforum. True, it has been a while since I posted anything, but that's because I don't want to post WIPs on Soundcloud because I'm running out of minutes :/
Although I suppose I could just throw in a dropbox link, but then I fear people won't take the time to listen to it.
I don't recall posting anything about not having posts on MLR though. In fact, I believe one of my very first posts was a music one.
Does that include producers who are bronies but don't produce brony music, such as myself?
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