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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Pickslide1992 » 27 Nov 2012 08:48

Okay, it's time I stopped this charade. Ladies and gentlemen, I am a failure. At least I feel like one. "Why?" you ask me as you stare awkwardly. Well, allow me to explain:

I'm usually an A/B student, and that's what I got in most of my classes, except one, where I got a low C, bordering on a D. Now maybe it's because I'm a perfectionist or I might secretly be Asian (The latter is a joke), but that doesn't sit well with me. I've been doing the assignments and I've been getting the right answers, but what the hell is the problem? Is there something that I haven't been doing? Is this my first indication that the world wants me to fail? If that's the case, mission accomplished, you may all grab some popcorn and watch this man have a mental breakdown over his first academic folly.

I tried contacting the teacher, but the site is so buggered up it can't even be bothered to let me email him. I feel like just throwing in the towel and giving the bird. It won't make a difference if I hopelessly carry on or if I stop now and retain what's left of my (Undeserved) glory.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Captain Ironhelm » 27 Nov 2012 09:10

Pickslide1992 wrote:Okay, it's time I stopped this charade. Ladies and gentlemen, I am a failure. At least I feel like one. "Why?" you ask me as you stare awkwardly. Well, allow me to explain:

I'm usually an A/B student, and that's what I got in most of my classes, except one, where I got a low C, bordering on a D. Now maybe it's because I'm a perfectionist or I might secretly be Asian (The latter is a joke), but that doesn't sit well with me. I've been doing the assignments and I've been getting the right answers, but what the hell is the problem? Is there something that I haven't been doing? Is this my first indication that the world wants me to fail? If that's the case, mission accomplished, you may all grab some popcorn and watch this man have a mental breakdown over his first academic folly.

I tried contacting the teacher, but the site is so buggered up it can't even be bothered to let me email him. I feel like just throwing in the towel and giving the bird. It won't make a difference if I hopelessly carry on or if I stop now and retain what's left of my (Undeserved) glory.


and here I am getting all excited when I manage to get an A.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby A2Z » 02 Dec 2012 03:23

I don't like DAW arguements. I try to remain objective, but still I hear the "this DAW is better cause I use it and reasons and this DAW sucks cause man idk it just does rofl" crap. I see this mostly from other artists at school or I see it on other forums. I just wish it would all...just stop.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Nine Volt » 02 Dec 2012 03:27

A2Z wrote:I don't like DAW arguements. I try to remain objective, but still I hear the "this DAW is better cause I use it and reasons and this DAW sucks cause man idk it just does rofl" crap. I see this mostly from other artists at school or I see it on other forums. I just wish it would all...just stop.

Especially on completely unrelated threads.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Pickslide1992 » 02 Dec 2012 13:08

I'm a bloody moron. I accidentally spilled some water on my $1,000 laptop and I'm uncertain if it'll work. There's a chance it might work, but the pessimistic side of me is betting on no. The hard drive is fine and so are the RAM cards, but the processor is what was hit. Sure I can get a replacement and all since it's under warranty, but I think the meme speaks for itself, "I ain't got time for that!"

Really it's not the computer that is making me write this, but my negligence. I must be the biggest, clumsiest loser who ever stepped foot on earth, possibly ruining an expensive and amazing piece of equipment like a common savage.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby CaptainFluffatun » 06 Dec 2012 13:56

I feel I should acknowledge that sometimes I am an asshole. Sometimes I don't know when a joke has been taken too far, or when it simply wasn't the right time to begin with. Luckily, I have friends who snap me back into line, soon enough. Just felt like sharing.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Freewave » 06 Dec 2012 19:00

Honestly i'm just wishing i had more fun making music. It's so much work putting additional touches on tracks that i never complete quickly, having collabs not come to reality, not having time to hang out with anyone in chats, and having everyone i know frazzled the same as me. It's like my fun hobby is now a second job and it's a real downer. If i try to take a break i feel bad because i'm not working on music and if i 'm working on music i need to take a break just to do something more fun when it takes longer than i want. When i have time off it just disappears so quickly. In some ways i feel a part of this awesome community but on the other hand i often feel alone in a sea of strangers equally. Just about everyone i know feels the same way is the sad thing.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Applejinx » 06 Dec 2012 20:08

CaptainFluffatun wrote:I feel I should acknowledge that sometimes I am an asshole. Sometimes I don't know when a joke has been taken too far, or when it simply wasn't the right time to begin with. Luckily, I have friends who snap me back into line, soon enough. Just felt like sharing.


but you have an adorable romping-Dashie sig! <3

I get really frustrated with my music. I'd like to be this very capable producer able to do stuff in non-electronic genres, but when I try to do stuff 'serious' it just fizzles and I get no traction with it. Then I just play with xoxboxes or something and make ugly weird music and folks go 'whee!' Or I do a country song, try to pitch up the vocals wrong, and get a kajillion hits that are mostly people making fun.

I'd like to kick ass more (or at least buck apples) but it's hard sorting out what the heck people even want, if anything. If they want me not to make music, woopsy, I kind of AM anyway... and sometimes that involves putting a bunch of effort in, even knowing it won't 'work', because _I_ want it that way and I'm hearing something that I want to be real...

*edit* and EqD absolutely makes me tear my mane out in big chunks. What the hell do they even want? I guess it's hopeless even trying to figure it out. Argh!
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Captain Ironhelm » 06 Dec 2012 20:55

what happened to making music just for fun?
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby vladnuke » 06 Dec 2012 21:22

Idk, I guess sucking at something is the first step towards being kinda good at something, and with what I've been doing, I guess I'm almost kinda good at electronica. When I set out, I kinda wanted to make Beach House style stuff. Then I realized that I'd need a singer, and that kinda fell apart.

I haven't released anything lately, and that's been bugging me, because I have been working on stuff. It's just sitting on my compy, completly done in it's own right, and I just don't even have the time to make a youtube vid for it. Hell, most of my bandcamp album isn't on youtube. I had an ep I was supposed to do. I'm still trying to pull this together. I think by now I have almost a full album of completly new tracks, and I just don't feel like releasing them. Maybe it's because I'm disheartened from no one listening to my last few tracks, maybe I'm just saving them for some big thing. Whatever the reason, I guess I'm just gonna wait till Christmas break to figure this stuff out.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby colortwelve » 06 Dec 2012 22:00

vladnuke wrote:Idk, I guess sucking at something is the first step towards being kinda good at something, and with what I've been doing, I guess I'm almost kinda good at electronica. When I set out, I kinda wanted to make Beach House style stuff. Then I realized that I'd need a singer, and that kinda fell apart.

I haven't released anything lately, and that's been bugging me, because I have been working on stuff. It's just sitting on my compy, completly done in it's own right, and I just don't even have the time to make a youtube vid for it. Hell, most of my bandcamp album isn't on youtube. I had an ep I was supposed to do. I'm still trying to pull this together. I think by now I have almost a full album of completly new tracks, and I just don't feel like releasing them. Maybe it's because I'm disheartened from no one listening to my last few tracks, maybe I'm just saving them for some big thing. Whatever the reason, I guess I'm just gonna wait till Christmas break to figure this stuff out.

Hey, bro. I know the feel. Except what I did was I uploaded a bunch of tracks all at once and watched them get less than 100 views each. And then I got over it, because I had nothing waiting for release. There was nothing to do but make something new. So I did, and when I wasn't feeling inspired, I read up on how to better do what I was doing. And now I am where I am, with a meager yet respectable amount of subs given how long I've been doing this, ad 1k views on a couple of recent tunes.

Basically, just release what you have when you're done with it, because sitting on it feels like shit and won't get you anywhere. Moving forward, one track at a time, is how you do it. If you're concerned about Youtube, upload there more. That's all I can really say.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Captain Ironhelm » 07 Dec 2012 06:45

Ok, my computer is downright stupid. Unless my computer has evil intents, which could be true as well. It keeps adjusting its calendar a day behind. I KNOW YESTERDAY WAS THURSDAY!! I'm getting sick of your nonsense, pixel butt.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby itroitnyah » 07 Dec 2012 10:26

Captain Ironhelm wrote:Ok, my computer is downright stupid. Unless my computer has evil intents, which could be true as well. It keeps adjusting its calendar a day behind. I KNOW YESTERDAY WAS THURSDAY!! I'm getting sick of your nonsense, pixel butt.
Lol, that made me laugh. Especially "I'm getting sick of your nonsense, pixel butt." I'm gunna start using :lol:

But anyways, my family computer, which is what I make my music on since I don't have my own computer, has another virus on it, and I'm not sure where this one came from this time. I don't know anything about it, since my dad was on when the virus came about, but he said that when he closed down WoW, the computer suddenly started saying that it was locked or something, so I won't be able to do work on my current WIP until tomorrow if/when my dad fixes it, and I've been working on this WIP for about 6 weeks or longer now. (partially because of my procrastination). Speaking of that, I'm also frustrated with myself because I haven't finished anything in a while, so I really want to stop procrastinating, and I'm trying my best, and I've shown improvement.

I also really want to get a job soon because I need a new computer and a set of monitors, so I'll be blowing a good $1300 or so right off the bat, and I can't go much more than that, because the trip to Germany that costs $3000 isn't going to pay for itself, although I will be doing a bit of fundraising and my parents will pay for a small portion of it. But besides the trip to germany, I'll also want to get my own car for when I get a job since my parents won't always be able to drive me everywhere, so I'll want to get a summer job during the summer. So, money is pretty tight for me atm, and I have it all figured out so I'm hoping I get a job soon so that everything falls into place for me. *crosses fingers*
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Pickslide1992 » 12 Dec 2012 15:14

Chalk me up on the music being a chore thing too. I sometimes wonder if it's all worth it. The brony music scene is pretty much oversaturated as it is, and the big artists are pretty much established with no sign of slowing down. I know it's not a competition, but the standard's been set pretty high, and I'm not sure if I can reach it. I mean why bother is no one's going to listen, right? People have Tombstone, Mando, Acoustic, etc. for their various musical needs, while there's hundreds of other artists that are left in the shadows with meager amounts of listeners.

I know it's not about the fame, the glitz and glamour, but I'd like to think I have some form of people listening. It also boils down to my lack of patience with hardware. I can barely sit down for 10 minutes to figure out a riff without me going "Screw this" and looking at others pump out song after song and me becoming green with envy. I don't like feeling like this, because they earned their subs/fans, while I'm just sitting back doing nothing. I hate it. I just feel as though I should give up and not even bother with music production. Management yes, because I am a part of a couple of sites, but production is a failure.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Nine Volt » 12 Dec 2012 15:20

Pickslide1992 wrote:Chalk me up on the music being a chore thing too. I sometimes wonder if it's all worth it. The brony music scene is pretty much oversaturated as it is, and the big artists are pretty much established with no sign of slowing down. I know it's not a competition, but the standard's been set pretty high, and I'm not sure if I can reach it. I mean why bother is no one's going to listen, right? People have Tombstone, Mando, Acoustic, etc. for their various musical needs, while there's hundreds of other artists that are left in the shadows with meager amounts of listeners.

I know it's not about the fame, the glitz and glamour, but I'd like to think I have some form of people listening. It also boils down to my lack of patience with hardware. I can barely sit down for 10 minutes to figure out a riff without me going "Screw this" and looking at others pump out song after song and me becoming green with envy. I don't like feeling like this, because they earned their subs/fans, while I'm just sitting back doing nothing. I hate it. I just feel as though I should give up and not even bother with music production. Management yes, because I am a part of a couple of sites, but production is a failure.


The most important thing is to never give up. Develop your own style or fill a niche and you will be recognized. I mean, just look at Silva or Kyoga, french house and dark ambient aren't exactly the moneymaker genres and yet they've got respectable followings because they kept at it and became good at it.

I do agree with you about the oversaturation of brony music though, which is pretty much why I don't do pony music and may be why I have the (admittedly quite small) following I do.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Motivfs » 12 Dec 2012 15:21

Pickslide1992 wrote:Chalk me up on the music being a chore thing too. I sometimes wonder if it's all worth it. The brony music scene is pretty much oversaturated as it is, and the big artists are pretty much established with no sign of slowing down. I know it's not a competition, but the standard's been set pretty high, and I'm not sure if I can reach it. I mean why bother is no one's going to listen, right? People have Tombstone, Mando, Acoustic, etc. for their various musical needs, while there's hundreds of other artists that are left in the shadows with meager amounts of listeners.

I know it's not about the fame, the glitz and glamour, but I'd like to think I have some form of people listening. It also boils down to my lack of patience with hardware. I can barely sit down for 10 minutes to figure out a riff without me going "Screw this" and looking at others pump out song after song and me becoming green with envy. I don't like feeling like this, because they earned their subs/fans, while I'm just sitting back doing nothing. I hate it. I just feel as though I should give up and not even bother with music production. Management yes, because I am a part of a couple of sites, but production is a failure.


You have no idea how many times I have felt like that, or maybe you do.. But really, in the end, what I find music is about, is really just having fun and expressing your emotions, your stories, your life, into melody. Whether it gets popular or not should be besides the point. I do want popularity myself, but not for the fact of being popular, so I can get actual feedback on my work, something that is truly impossible to find. I do take music seriously as much as you probably do too, I've only been producing for about a year now though, and all these guys you named have been going 5+ years... So in the end you have to be persistent, determined, and motivated to get to the finish line.

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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Captain Ironhelm » 12 Dec 2012 15:58

Motivfs wrote: I do want popularity myself, but not for the fact of being popular, so I can get actual feedback on my work, something that is truly impossible to find.


other producers can generally offer much better feedback than fans who know next to nothing about producing. One of the best ways to get feedback on a track is to hit someone up on Skype. (there's threads dedicated to Skype contacts for here.) You can add me (my screen name+you'll see a pony) and I'm usually open to help.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Nine Volt » 12 Dec 2012 15:59

Captain Ironhelm wrote:
Motivfs wrote: I do want popularity myself, but not for the fact of being popular, so I can get actual feedback on my work, something that is truly impossible to find.


other producers can generally offer much better feedback than fans who know next to nothing about producing. One of the best ways to get feedback on a track is to hit someone up on Skype. (there's threads dedicated to Skype contacts for here.) You can add me (my screen name+you'll see a pony) and I'm usually open to help.

Sometimes casual viewers can provide good general help, like for example if a lot of people hate on particular synth than that can give some indication of stuff.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Pickslide1992 » 12 Dec 2012 16:51

See, that's what I want: Feedback on things. Maybe you guys are right, I shouldn't just tuck tail and run away.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby itroitnyah » 12 Dec 2012 17:14

Ugh, every time my mom asks me to show her my grades online, she has to find something to yell at me about. I can understand that you want me to get good grades and I should try and get a better grade than C in one of my classes, but threatening to take away my music production equipment and stuff isn't exactly going to motivate me to do what you want, mom. I also don't think she gets the concept of "harder class, harder material" since she's expecting me to get a better grade in my geometry class (have a B right now) since I was getting an A in my algebra class last year. Mostly family conflicts again. And when it's not during the school year and she can yell at me about my grades, it's during summer when she can yell at me for spending too much time inside.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Nine Volt » 12 Dec 2012 17:40

itroitnyah wrote:Ugh, every time my mom asks me to show her my grades online, she has to find something to yell at me about. I can understand that you want me to get good grades and I should try and get a better grade than C in one of my classes, but threatening to take away my music production equipment and stuff isn't exactly going to motivate me to do what you want, mom. I also don't think she gets the concept of "harder class, harder material" since she's expecting me to get a better grade in my geometry class (have a B right now) since I was getting an A in my algebra class last year. Mostly family conflicts again. And when it's not during the school year and she can yell at me about my grades, it's during summer when she can yell at me for spending too much time inside.

I can completely relate to this :3
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Freewave » 12 Dec 2012 19:33

Pickslide1992 wrote:See, that's what I want: Feedback on things. Maybe you guys are right, I shouldn't just tuck tail and run away.


Nah don't give up man. I mean it IS tough, it IS frustrating, but don't give up until you are TRULY burned out from any enjoyment. Don't Ragequit!! Be Assertive!! :D
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby itroitnyah » 12 Dec 2012 21:15

Pickslide1992 wrote:See, that's what I want: Feedback on things. Maybe you guys are right, I shouldn't just tuck tail and run away.
Well, we all have to start somewhere in music! I'm 100% certain that 4 years ago, when Glaze first downloaded software and started clinking around in it, he didn't whip out golden melodies. And I'll bet that 7 years ago, when Alex S first downloaded software, he didn't instantly bring down the house with excellent bass synths. Just because you aren't getting anywhere fast doesn't mean that you aren't getting anywhere at all! The longest time I've spent on an already complete song is about 6 weeks, and my current WIP, I've been working on for almost two months now, mostly learning more about synth design to improve it! However, you do sometimes hear about seemingly naturally gifted people at music production, like Eros, for example, who just pop up out of nowhere as a newcomer, and they're somehow pretty amazing at music production, when they've really been working at it for a year or more and just never posted anything. And when you strip back their music, you'll find that they're using presets that a friend made for them, or patches they found online, which people who don't make their own synth presets really bug the hell out of me for an inexplicable reason. But only if they don't get the synths themselves. If they went through the effort to make a Skrillex growl, then I'm ok with it, but I really have no idea why.

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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby Pickslide1992 » 12 Dec 2012 22:19

I heard somewhere that Tombstone was already doing video game remixes and had a following even before MLP. That just fueled the flames, as it were. Thanks for the advice though.
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Re: The hugging/venting thread

Postby itroitnyah » 13 Dec 2012 06:25

Pickslide1992 wrote:I heard somewhere that Tombstone was already doing video game remixes and had a following even before MLP. That just fueled the flames, as it were. Thanks for the advice though.
Alright, but that doesn't erase the fact that Tombstone wasn't very good when he first started as well...
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