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EqD music changes

Postby Carbon Dust » 11 Oct 2012 20:42

So what does everyone think about EqD's new "Music of the day" thing? Personally, I'm not sure about whether it's good or bad.

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/10/music-of-day-1-introduction.html
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Captain Ironhelm » 11 Oct 2012 21:23

I'm just glad they weren't doing this earlier. I submitted a track a while back, and the thought of someone else hearing it is quite frightening. My name I don't have would've been ruined forever.

I think the new system is a great idea, personally.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Pickslide1992 » 11 Oct 2012 22:21

A step in the right direction for sure. With the music scene growing every day, it's about time EqD stepped up their game. I can see some positive changes in their future for sure.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby CommandSpry » 12 Oct 2012 00:55

2-3 music posts a day and then 10+ songs nightly will make people very disinterested in pony music
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby GumsOfGabby » 12 Oct 2012 01:00

CommandSpry wrote:2-3 music posts a day and then 10+ songs nightly will make people very disinterested in pony music


Agreed. I don't think many people will look at the list. It's like having too much of a good thing. Buy tonnes of chocolate, eat it all in a day and you'll get sick of it.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Carbon Dust » 12 Oct 2012 01:34

GumsOfGabby wrote:It's like having too much of a good thing. Buy tonnes of chocolate, eat it all in a day and you'll get sick of it.


I doubt that people are going to listen to it all and get sick of it, more likely that the Music of the Day posts will be pretty much ignored and only the spotlight music gets any attention. In which case, why bother with posting non-spotlight music?

Although, this system could allow the more amateur musicians to get feedback on their work, and it's not like the posts are inconveniencing anyone.

It's just an experiment, though, EqD will probably get rid of it if they find that it's not working.

Also, If my music didn't make the mark, I would rather it not be posted than end up on the music "b-list"; however, I'm not sure if everyone else shares this view.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Freewave » 12 Oct 2012 07:49

I dunno guys I was very psyched to see this news come our way. :D As someone who was working on the Second Chances comp and saw similar blog action in MLPPromotions and the Pony Remix Planet Blog (before it dried up during the summer) it's nice to see there's some interest in EQD featuring those that didn't quite make the mark but put out good (but maybe not great) music. People ARE putting out lots of brony music and it's much nicer to have a small spotlight on those who made a good effort but for whatever reasons (because a reject letter never came) didn't hear anything back.

Will this spotlight be a much smaller one than a full on feature? Surely and I'm sure many EQD fans won't necessarily go through that list of the day but I'll take something rather than nothing on a rejection. I'm sure it will get much less views but there will be a bump on the day of that feature to a small degree and obviously its better than being ignored or not getting an email reply like the current system. I mean when I get a feature i get 10x the view of what I would have received without one. Even if I get 2x the views with a daily spotlight that's still something good and acknowledgement i exist and with likes and favoriting it gives a chance to be seen later in the week.

Again if you're saying there's a glut and too much brony music, yeah you're right. I kinda thought that was known. :? Blame MLR and all the new faces for that but it is what it is. I'm glad EQD is acknowledging the other 90% who regularly make brony music and there's still standards that people have to follow to even get a daily feature. This seperation between the unicorns, pegasi, earth ponies, and blank flanks in the community have always been there but just like there was a Ballooon Party there was the lesser After Party and this gives a second chance for people to be heard even if much less people check it out.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby ThatRobChap » 12 Oct 2012 09:15

I quite like it, it's set out kind of like a drawfriend post. Of course, listening to a song takes a fair bit longer than looking at a picture... we'll see how it goes.
This does mean that the new stuff I'm working on should get on there, so I'm not complaining. :D
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby soultensionbenjamin » 12 Oct 2012 14:11

It's just like a drawfreind all you need to do is get the attention of the listener just like how a visual artist gets the attention of your eye. so me personally I like this idea
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby ThatRobChap » 12 Oct 2012 14:56

soultensionbenjamin wrote:It's just like a drawfreind all you need to do is get the attention of the listener just like how a visual artist gets the attention of your eye. so me personally I like this idea


This does of course mean that a nice image to go with your song is more important than ever, and I can't draw.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Freewave » 12 Oct 2012 18:26

ThatRobChap wrote:
soultensionbenjamin wrote:It's just like a drawfreind all you need to do is get the attention of the listener just like how a visual artist gets the attention of your eye. so me personally I like this idea


This does of course mean that a nice image to go with your song is more important than ever, and I can't draw.


* find a piece of art that fits your track
* ask artist for permission to use
* credit and link that artist

pretty easy.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby soultensionbenjamin » 12 Oct 2012 20:50

ThatRobChap wrote:
soultensionbenjamin wrote:It's just like a drawfreind all you need to do is get the attention of the listener just like how a visual artist gets the attention of your eye. so me personally I like this idea


This does of course mean that a nice image to go with your song is more important than ever, and I can't draw.




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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Sonarch » 12 Oct 2012 22:16

I was actually unaware of this new feature, since I haven't caught up on EqD in like 2 weeks, so maybe tomorrow night i'll go through it all. It sounds like a neat idea, though I don't think the old system was too bad either.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Watashig » 13 Oct 2012 00:06

Sonarch wrote:since I haven't caught up on EqD in like 2 weeks

oh boy. you have it easy. i haven't caught up in 5 months
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Icky » 13 Oct 2012 04:05

Well I'm not going to send in any of my music in anymore, but I hope this will make the people that have been complaining about being rejected happy.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Captain Ironhelm » 13 Oct 2012 07:28

from my understanding, they'll still have their feature posts with the gems. It's just an expansion for people that might want a little more, so I don't think it's some apocalypse that will destroy pony music forever.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Magnitude Zero » 13 Oct 2012 11:37

Captain Ironhelm wrote:from my understanding, they'll still have their feature posts with the gems. It's just an expansion for people that might want a little more, so I don't think it's some apocalypse that will destroy pony music forever.

A couple EqD commenters were already complaining about too much music being posted, and that was a month or two ago. I don't see this doing anything but make people less interested in brony music. I don't see the people that get featured in these now-dime-a-dozen music posts getting very many views, and I feel like EqD just did this to get people to stop bitching rather than actually trying to set up a good music system.

It's a good idea in theory, and I think it's a step in the right direction, but I don't like the idea of lowering the standards of music that gets posted.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Freewave » 13 Oct 2012 13:05

It is a catch 22, either they keep the standards so high that the musicians who don't get on get frustrated by always being rejected or their audience starts tuning out because of too much variety. There will be flaws with either model but I'm glad that at least this one doesn't stifle creativity and variety from those who ARE making the music and offering it up. It just means there's a smaller reward for those who get the smaller spotlight but they are at least not getting a lack of response which will always be my least favorite part of their original setup. It doesn't sound like they are letting just anything in, there are still standards and stuff that doesn't qualify. If people will leave because there's too much brony music then that's inevitable whether they show it or not because there's that many people making it.

Meh i can't wait until season 3 starts and we can stop stewing in our own juices. Not having new ep's come in really means less to make music about, means toast beard is a desert, and i think makes people a little more bitchy. I think we just need to see some more ponies again to see why make this music in the first place. When they are absent it's quite apparent and it's feels like weight.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Magnitude Zero » 13 Oct 2012 14:32

Freewave wrote:Meh i can't wait until season 3 starts and we can stop stewing in our own juices. Not having new ep's come in really means less to make music about, means toast beard is a desert, and i think makes people a little more bitchy. I think we just need to see some more ponies again to see why make this music in the first place. When they are absent it's quite apparent and it's feels like weight.

Yeah, absolutely. I've definitely been feeling a bit dry lately, inspiration-wise. Can't have pony music without ponies.

But listening through one of the daily music posts, I can't help but think they lowered their standards too much for this. There are a couple gems, but as much as I hate to say it, a lot of it is... pretty bad. Not terrible, but not the quality that people should (imo, of course) aspire to to be featured on a website like this. I dunno. Has anyone else actually gone through and listened? What do you think?
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Freewave » 13 Oct 2012 16:10

I have not but that's really going to be the key. Again I don't think there's anything wrong if people have to sift through the ok stuff to get the good stuff. It just means that those that aren't that great likely won't see subs or likes while those that are good will. Again if you go into a cd store a lot of it will be crap but that doesn't mean the store should be pre-screening what they put on their shelves. That's the consumers job to decide what's "good" and what's "bad" or what genres or quality people want to listen to. There's plenty of stuff that's popular that i don't like, and there's plenty of stuff that isn't that is good.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby CommandSpry » 13 Oct 2012 16:52

soultensionbenjamin wrote:It's just like a drawfreind all you need to do is get the attention of the listener just like how a visual artist gets the attention of your eye. so me personally I like this idea


Dude

it takes 0.5 seconds to take a look at a picture

it takes 3-5 minutes to listen to a song, and at least 20 seconds to just "preview" it.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Sonarch » 13 Oct 2012 21:35

Well I feel like anyone on the listener's side of this cares, they'll follow the music posts anyway because they want to hear the music. If anyone is being bothered by more music posts, I doubt they cared much about it in the first place. I, personally, will keep up with all their music posts, because a lot of times they post songs by people I don't know about, and then I can go and subscribe to them on Youtube if I enjoy their music. But I find i'm weird in that I like so many kinds of music, so I don't know how applicable it is to other people.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby ghelded_kultz » 14 Oct 2012 09:44

As a band that is (completely reasonably and quite frankly mercifully) rejected by Equestria Daily on regular basis, we find this to be godsend (despite the fact that we have already been rejected from the music of the day post too. Yay for lo-fi anti-music). It gives lesser known artists a much better chance of their work, good or bad, being heard by the general populace (well the sort of creeps that hang out in EqD music posts, so not us of course) and receiving feedback. Not to mention even have 100 more views on a song is a really good feeling when you'd only been receiving couple hundred, if that, without the music of the day post. I heard plenty of songs that I (I'm speaking for myself and not the band now) liked thanks to these posts and I am sure others feel the same way. Anyway to get lesser known artists out in the real world is a good way in my opinion.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 14 Oct 2012 12:15

Personally, I like EQD's new music system.

However, most people have short attention spans. Therefore, they probably won't listen to any music besides the songs that get individual posts. Songs that get on there but aren't the 'gems' won't get the attention they deserve due to the attention span of the audience.

I don't blame EQD, I somewhat blame the listeners. Most don't have the time or interest. I can understand that, but it still causes almost every possible music posting system to fail. Unless the listeners wanted to hear evey brony song possible, this new system won't work. Neither will any other system that doesn't completely monopolize brony music.

Translation: I do not want EQD to turn into the pop music industry in regards to music, but that is the only way that will make individual songs stand out better amongst the crowd. The best you can do is get the correct balance between quantity of music and quality/popularity (many listeners don't care anymore) of music and hope that bronies will tune in.
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Re: EqD music changes

Postby Sonarch » 14 Oct 2012 13:00

ChromaticChaosPony wrote: Unless the listeners wanted to hear evey brony song possible, this new system won't work.


This is why it will work for me.

But you're right, most people just don't have the time/attention span to listen to everything. But I think it was like that before, too. Anyone who cares will keep listening, and those who don't probably won't, no matter the system.
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