Why doesn't anyone make Trap music?

[XXDarkShadow79XX]

K, I'mma jump on the trap train and make some trap with orchestral, house, or chiptune influences. I'll post again when I've got a WIP

Yeeeaaah! Now this is what I'm talking about! Can't wait to hear it.

[Nine Volt]

K, I'mma jump on the trap train and make some trap with orchestral, house, or chiptune influences. I'll post again when I've got a WIP

Yeeeaaah! Now this is what I'm talking about! Can't wait to hear it.

Can't promise I'll be done soon though, got a lot of other projects going on, but I'll definitely try to get something out by the 10th.

[XXDarkShadow79XX]

K, I'mma jump on the trap train and make some trap with orchestral, house, or chiptune influences. I'll post again when I've got a WIP

Yeeeaaah! Now this is what I'm talking about! Can't wait to hear it.

Can't promise I'll be done soon though, got a lot of other projects going on, but I'll definitely try to get something out by the 10th.

Totally fine. I'm trying to finish this damn PMV I've been "working on" (aka procrastinating on) for months.

[MYCUTIEMARKISAGUN]

Oh no. Why didn't I see this earlier. oh god bunch of white techno fans discussing hip-hop DX noooooooooo

sigh, here we go (warning: slightly drunk here)

I mean, we have freaking UK Hardcore, but not trap? Why?

because ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm there are like 40+ black bronies total and only a handful of wiggers and most brony musicians prolly never heard of this shit until SilvaHound posted that thing on soundcloud

i mean come on most brony RAP is done over these dubsteppy EDM tracks that most legit rappers wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. i work with alot of these guys in Philly and if you gave them say, TLT's Beyond Her Tomb remix and asked them to rap on it they would laugh at your ass like "LOL what is this techno shit nigga".

(also i've included trap elements in my pony music b4 but who cares bout me amirite)

Someone link another piece of Trap music, because that's the only one I've heard, no one links anything else.

ummmmmmmmmmmm ANYTHING by Lex Luger, ever. and anything with pounding 808s and fast hi-hats basically



(oh god meek's flow ilu <3)

(also, Rick Ross is a hilariously fake fraud but everyone overlooks it cuz his music is so fun)

but really Trap isn't REALLLLLLLY a subgenre so much as an aesthetic, one that's honestly pretty hard to separate from the diamond-hard rap lyrics that typically accompany it imho.

Is there any reason why its called Trap music other than than the T is added onto rap?

I mean, you know where the word "TRAP" even comes from? Its Southern slang for where they sell drugs. Because its so seductive (fast money!) yet so dangerous (NIGGAS SHOOTIN UP YO MOMMA CRIB), that its a TRAP THAT DEVOURS THOSE WHO TAKE THE BAIT.

I don't listen to Soulja Boy's crap when he's rapping on top of it.

MEEK MILL HAS HEARD AND REJECTED YOUR COMPLAINTS, CAUCAZOID.

But this trap thing is a huge dissapointment to me in terms of EDM. It's like going back when dubstep just started and was extremely low quality.

I mean seriosuly? This type of music imo sounds just too easy to make. Are we regressing or something?

"EDM"? EDM? EDM??!?!?!?~!? ASDJKL;FJ;KLSDFDSJK;LDSP[IOWERTGJ;KLVBFZXC;NJKLXDZV don't ever label a hip-hop subgenre as EDM in my presence again.

Trap music killed real hiphop

"Fuck Real Hip Hop. That Shit Is Annoying. You Faggots Are Not Special Because You Hate Mainstream And Love Only 90s Rap. Shut The Fuck Up" - Tyler the Creator

omg future! <3 Pusha T's version was best tho. "KILL 'EM THEN KISS HIS MOMMA CHEEK - THAT'S MANNERS!!!!"

listen to the radio ask people who the best rappers/producers are.

it a shame to hear the answers

All things considered, Hip-Hop radio is like the best its been in over a decade. Nas - "Daughters" was in heavy rotation this summer for crying out loud. You're too young to remember the horrors of Snap Music and Laffy Taffy.

Well right now Trap music doesn't sound all that great because

...its meant to be RAPPED ON, not stand alone as instrumental music.

Im sorry Im so obnoxious toward trap music but when it got popular it took away lyricist's imagination and skill and replaced it with bragaodocia and rapping about scandalous sex,drugs and killing and I just miss the rap music i grew up with with when there was storytelling and mystique in the lyric's

"This Is Not 94 Nigga, Grow Up, It Is 2012, Not Everybody Wanna Hear That Shit You Been Playing Since Niggas Was Born. Its New Stuff My Guy" - Tyler the Creator, again

lol @ trap music being responsible for bragaodocia and drug talk taking over hip-hop. That change actually happened with ummmmmmmmmmmm Dr. Dre in what 1992? lol. The change over to the materialistic mafioso "I'm Rich" shit did more damage honestly. Dudes used to rap about committing crimes because they were poor, then Cuban Linx came out and everyone was a millionaire basically.

I thought this thread is about dance electronic post-skrillex trap, which is all about deep bass drums and high-pitched synths.

what the hell

young jeezy is spinning in his grave

white ppl are gonna steal trap like they stole Rock n Roll & Jazz ;_;

[soultensionbenjamin]

All things considered, Hip-Hop radio is like the best its been in over a decade. Nas - "Daughters" was in heavy rotation this summer for crying out loud. You're too young to remember the horrors of Snap Music and Laffy Taffy

I have no beef with edm trap it's hip hop trap i thought this thread was about

so


Im not that young I remember these songs like it was yesterday sadly however i still love some of these songs

[GhostXb]

Oh no. Why didn't I see this earlier. oh god bunch of white techno fans discussing hip-hop DX noooooooooo

sigh, here we go (warning: slightly drunk here)

"lots of angry language"

[versal]

for the giggles i want to actually see how this thread ends now lol

[XXDarkShadow79XX]

for the giggles i want to actually see how this thread ends now lol

It won't for a while.

[Nine Volt]

Oh no. Why didn't I see this earlier. oh god bunch of white techno fans discussing hip-hop DX noooooooooo

sigh, here we go (warning: slightly drunk here)

*rant about how white people are ruining music*

Yeah, fuck those crackers and their musical tastes!

[XXDarkShadow79XX]

I'm terribly sorry for reviving this thread, but I think you guys should hear this. It might change some of your views on this kind of music.

[Grace Note]

Because it's super ghetto. Personally, I don't mind it.

[ph00tbag]

MEEK MILL HAS HEARD AND REJECTED YOUR COMPLAINTS, CAUCAZOID.

I was hoping there'd be some lyrical depth in this video to offset the insipidness of the beat, which would contrast how lame rappers like Lil' B, Soulja Boy and Lil' Wayne sound, but it's just more of the self-aggrandizing shouting that seems pervasive in today's pop rap. At least the three I listed seem to be having a laugh just as much as they seem to be puffing out their chests like boys trying to be men.

But this trap thing is a huge dissapointment to me in terms of EDM. It's like going back when dubstep just started and was extremely low quality.

I mean seriosuly? This type of music imo sounds just too easy to make. Are we regressing or something?

"EDM"? EDM? EDM??!?!?!?~!? ASDJKL;FJ;KLSDFDSJK;LDSP[IOWERTGJ;KLVBFZXC;NJKLXDZV don't ever label a hip-hop subgenre as EDM in my presence again.

It's electronic. It's dance music. Don't act all high and mighty because you mistakenly associate EDM with white people.

FACT: Techno, House, Electro, Jungle, Dub, and Breaks, all originated in black communities, and grew through the contributions of artists of all ethnic backgrounds. All EDM owes its existence to black musicians just as much as it does to Asians, whites, Latino/as, and Arabs.

white ppl are gonna steal trap like they stole Rock n Roll & Jazz ;_;

Oh, and the accusations of appropriation begin in force. Because artists aren't allowed to create music with certain attributes they like. White musicians can't collaborate with black musicians, lest they be "stealing" the black man's music. Let's totally ignore the fact that in Jazz's infancy, none of the people making the music actually gave a shit who was making the music as long as it sounded good. (The musicians would often jam together in private even if they were segregated in public performances.)

Your approach to this is incredibly narrow-minded. If the rest of us adhered to your views on who can make what kinds of music, we'd never have French House, Psytrance, Dark Jungle, or really any modern EDM genre. Say what you want about that, but at the very least, I'm incredibly glad that a diverse collection of artists contributed to the above three genres and made them what they are today.

But in this case, you don't have to worry about this white dude appropriating the trap aesthetic, because it sounds like shit, and this white dude tries not to make music that sounds like shit.

Nujabes is turning over in his grave.

[Lavender_Harmony]

I'm terribly sorry for reviving this thread, but I think you guys should hear this. It might change some of your views on this kind of music.

It's got some way to go, but I see the direction. Get rid of the horrible female OohOoh's and terrible drum machines.

Close but still not biscuit, but it's listenable. Also clipping everywhere.

[XXDarkShadow79XX]

It's got some way to go, but I see the direction. Get rid of the horrible female OohOoh's and terrible drum machines.

What do you mean by "Terrible drum machines" ? You're not talking about the 808 are you? If you are, then you should probably back away from this genre.

[MYCUTIEMARKISAGUN]

Oh no. Why didn't I see this earlier. oh god bunch of white techno fans discussing hip-hop DX noooooooooo

sigh, here we go (warning: slightly drunk here)

*rant about how white people are ruining music*

Yeah, fuck those crackers and their musical tastes!

Well......

basically, yeah LOL (j/k)

I am the Paul Mooney of MLR. I can live with that.

I was hoping there'd be some lyrical depth in this video to offset the insipidness of the beat

Okay, that is one of my favorite beats of the year. Choir vocals, clean subtle horns, minimalist drum approach, just lovely. Fucking awesome, best intro of the year. Wish I had made it.

I was hoping there'd be some lyrical depth in this video to offset the insipidness of the beat, which would contrast how lame rappers like Lil' B, Soulja Boy and Lil' Wayne sound

Oh, nice laundry list of "Those Bad Rappers Ruining Rap" Mr. Probably-Doesn't-Listen-To-Much-Rap! Few problems tho......(and everyone else, plz take notice)

1) Lil' B is enjoyed purely ironically. The guy started as a internet meme on Hip-Hop forums because he's so bad, so ridiculous, yet so prolific. Nobody really takes this dude seriously within rap or music circles. Pitchfork reviews all his mixtapes as a running gag basically. To portray him as any sort of standard bearer in Hip-Hop is laughable and insulting.

2) Soulja Boy? I'm sorry is this 5 years ago? Soulja Boy fell off. He hasn't been relevant as a "rising star" in like 4 years. He hasn't had a radio hit in 2 years. But ok. Let's talk about Soulja Boy. Let's talk about why a guy like DJ Premier defended him and why Ice T felt the need to apologize to him back when he WAS relevant in Hip-Hop: Soulja Boy was a unsigned 16 y/o kid with music dreams who made the 23rd most successful song of the 2000s according to the Billboard Hot 100 Songs of the Decade on a demo version of FLstudio with nothing but stock drums. You like Electronic DANCE Music? Well that's what Soulja Boy made at the peak of his relevancy and fame. Dance music. His whole debut album was self-produced dance songs. "Donk"? "SHE GOT A DONK! SHE GOT A DONK! SHEGOTADONKSHEGOTADONKSHEGOTADONK-". You could listen to a song like that and bitch about how conceptually vapid and bad lyrically it is and blah blah blah it is, or you could hop off dat high horse and realize why its become a staple in Baltimore House DJ sets. Its not supposed to be deep or lyrical. Go listen to Nas or Dead Prez if you want that. Its supposed to make women shake their asses while the dry hump you in a dry nightclub. I think it was Chris Rock that brilliantly said "Nobody wants to hear Mos Def in the strip club".

3) Everyone likes to throw on the Hipster Glasses when Lil' Wayne's name comes up now. Whatever. Lil' Wayne got to where he is because he was rapping his ass off and laying waste to beats left and right from 2005 to 2007. Dedication 1 & 2 are still some of the greatest Mixtapes ever. That run was so great, it single-handedly legitimatized Hip-Hop mixtapes. Mixtapes never appeared in retail chains or got Pitchfork reviews before that. And "Georgia Bush" was the best Anti-Bush protest song the 2000s managed to produce. No, really. Since then Wayne has been "hit & miss".....mostly miss. Majority miss. But that's one of the downsides to CONSTANTLY RECORDING LIKE, ALL THE TIME WHILE REALLY REALLY HIGH and RELEASING *EVERYTHING*. But in the same breath with Lil B and Soulja Boy? He doesn't deserve that. Rap Alicorns like Jay-Z and Nas don't collaborate with clowns and one hit wonders like Lil B & Soulja Boy.

just more of the self-aggrandizing shouting that seems pervasive in today's pop rap.

See, this is such crap.

Putting aside the fact that the BATSHIT MIKE TYSON QUOTE sets the mood perfectly for some violent shit-talking, putting aside that SHOUTING is pretty much Meek's default speaking voice, putting aside that I love Meek in part cuz he's the biggest Philly rapper since Will Smith, putting aside how PINKIE PIE CRAZY Meek's flow is, and putting aside the fact that Meek can in fact, switch it up to deeper song concepts.....





Self-aggrandizing? Quick, name a rapper that doesn't self-aggrandize. I'll wait. Yeah trick question cuz literally all rappers self-aggrandize. Even if they are rapping about what a sorry bum they are, they are bragging about it. Political rappers? They self-aggrandize about how they're such righteous badasses that the gov't wants them dead like Fred Hampton. Gospel rappers? They self-aggrandize about how chaste they are, unlike you godless heathens. Emo rappers? They self-aggrandize about how stoically resilient they are in the face of their epic problems. Horrorcore/shock/acid rappers? They self-aggrandize about how they cut off their own fingers and eat them as snacks or some other crazy shit. And Rick Ross self-aggrandizes about waking up in the morning and brushing his teeth. Etc.

Shouting? LOL. What next, you gonna diss metal band frontmen for screaming and growling?
Hip-Hop began with guys like Kool Herc shouting over drum breaks at parties. Guys performing in Central Park would shout so you could hear their rhymes over shitty sound systems, see: Run-DMC. Hell, one of Rakim's greatest innovations was that he was pretty much the first MC to not shout in the recording studio.

"Pop Rap"? Negro please. I am so sick of hearing bronies use this term like it means anything. Hey, you know who else counts as "POP RAP"? Kanye West.

It's electronic. It's dance music. Don't act all high and mighty because you mistakenly associate EDM with white people.

Stop. Trap is not EDM. It did not originate in the EDM scene. The producers who dominate its sound do not touch EDM. The artists who perform "trap songs" are not EDM artists. These are facts. You sound so, so silly when you assert otherwise. Trap music is so deeply entrenched in Southern Hip-Hop culture its ridiculous.







Yeah see, I've actually been listening to and making Trap for years, y'know?

Whereas alot of bronies clearly never heard of Trap until Silvahound's soundcloud lol.

Like....dude.

I've been submitting freakin' pony trap songs to Toastbeard for months now, so I can testify to how, ahem, the non-hip-hop brony musicians had no freaking idea what "Trap" was. They never heard of it, I had to explain it repeatedly, and even after that I was still getting skeptical looks lol. Seriously, when I asked Sci to add "Trap" to the Random Genre Generator, he scratched his head and asked "trap is a real thing?". plz note that sci REALLY KNOWS HIS SHIT when it comes to music in general so this was pretty funny lol.

But imagine how I feel now, seeing Trap finally get some recognition on MLR.........and then get misrepresented as EDM. It'd be like if you were the only Brony making Funk music and then somepony came up to you all like, "Hey dude, Funk is my favorite sub-genre of Punk Rock!" You'd be a little pissed.

FACT: Techno, House, Electro, Jungle, Dub, and Breaks, all originated in black communities

lol of course they did! throw em on the pile with Blues, Ragtime, and Negro Spirituals, kthnx

Oh, and the accusations of appropriation begin in force.

LOL. No. They haven't.

That was a joke. A pure tongue in cheek joke. If I really wanted to go there with America's very real and sad racial history, I would've went there. You're talking to a Black Nationalist who spent most of his pre-pony internet time on political blogs & forums, arguing with fascists, Confederate Flag fanboys, conspiracy nuts, and black supremacists. My fanfic may be perpetually stuck on page 2, but I could give you a 30k word essay about white exploitation of black culture in my sleep. So no, homie. I made no accusation and began nothing in force.

.....and even if I did, so what? Do you NOT realize how the threat of "being stolen like jazz & rock" has loomed heavily over Hip-Hop culture? Black people have been paranoid about this since Hip-Hop's inception. You can fucking laugh or dismiss this, but it is real:

Yes, it is jazz and yes it is the blues/
And yes it is the exact same way they did rock/
But I refuse to watch the same thing happen to Hip-Hop/
I refuse to watch that bullshit..../

- MURS, And This Is For....

I mean, I can just IMAGINE the reaction I'd get if I took this over to AllHipHop or SOHH and made a post like "LOL so apparently trap music counts as techno now". There'd be 100 replies of "SMH WHITE PPL STEALING FROM US AGAIN, MOONEY WAS RIGHT, THEY'D TAKE A HEADACHE FROM US" and a bunch of other bitter/incredulous reactions. (btw, I'd call it techno because they would have no clue wtf "EDM" is. HA!)

There's a reason that black musicians, pundits, preachers, and comedians have been taking turns shitting all over Elvis for 40 years, y'know.

If the rest of us adhered to your views on who can make what kinds of music

I issued no such Papal Bull. Eff yo straw man, nukka.

But in this case, you don't have to worry about this white dude appropriating the trap aesthetic, because it sounds like shit, and this white dude tries not to make music that sounds like shit.

Funny, I almost exclusively listen to Hip-Hop, but I never ever shit on or dismiss entire genres or styles because I respect all music.

But hey that's just me being open-minded.

Nujabes is turning over in his grave.

You prolly never heard of CL Smooth before his Nujabes song lol. Go listen to Pete Rock and maybe you'll learn a thing or two about Hip-Hop, k?

[Nine Volt]

...how long did you spend typing that? XD

[Grace Note]

These songs are called Trapsformer and Trapsformer (Reloaded). My cousin Kenny and I did them. We named it that because we took some sounds from the Transformers movie trailer. I unfortunately wasn't there to work on the reloaded version, but worked on the original.

The original is here:
http://m.soundcloud.com/kenny4391/trapsformer

And here is the remix (which I personally like more, but my cousin likes the original more):
http://m.soundcloud.com/kenny4391/trapsformer-kenny-x-pd

[ph00tbag]

MCMIAG, you need to calm down. I didn't say Lil' B, Lil' Wayne, or Soulja Boy are ruining hip hop. I said they sound lame, and the tracks they rap over are pretty insipid. I mentioned them, because they are the most recognizable names that use this style. And I find the style as a whole to be totally devoid of interesting qualities. The first Meek Mill track you posted really didn't seem very distinguishable from that. The tracks you've posted now do a lot more to support the assertion that he's not just more of the same. They're much better.

On another tone, Trap is Hip Hop. This, you've stated, and I will not dispute. But Hip Hop is EDM. Sure, the artists that were first making it were inspired by Soul, Funk, and Blues. But look further. The artists who made Techno were influenced by Motown. The the artists who first made House were influenced by Disco and Funk. The artists who first made Jungle were influenced by Reggae. That's all well and good for talking about where these genres come from, but EDM is music that is made with sequencers, samplers and synthesizers. Hip Hop falls into this description neatly.

I don't understand it: I've told you that you're totally free to champion pretty much all of EDM as being rooted in black musical movements, and you think that labeling Trap as part of that heritage is appropriation. It's inexplicable. Can you explain this to me?

[Nine Volt]

Goddamnit guys stop fighting

[versal]

NO DONT STOP FIGHTING! THIS IS ENTERTAINING!

[ph00tbag]

I'm not even fighting at this point. I'm just genuinely confused at how someone can have such prejudice against a whole swath of music when I'm not entirely sure they know what the music they're talking about sounds like.

[Friv]

People say that something is only as good as its weakest link. I look at its strongest links, and still I have yet to hear anything that not only sounds entertaining to me, nor anything that appeals to "the producer side of me" (as in the have horrible mixing or instruments, etc.) from this genre... and I can't understand why it's becoming more popular among famous artists besides the sole reason of bandwagon-ing and popularity. It's the same as how I felt about the moombah____ genres.
[I'm too lazy to read the other posts but whatever.]

[versal]

People say that something is only as good as its weakest link. I look at its strongest links, and still I have yet to hear anything that not only sounds entertaining to me, nor anything that appeals to "the producer side of me" (as in the have horrible mixing or instruments, etc.) from this genre... and I can't understand why it's becoming more popular among famous artists besides the sole reason of bandwagon-ing and popularity. It's the same as how I felt about the moombah____ genres.
[I'm too lazy to read the other posts but whatever.]

well MCMIAG has kinda already brought up the reason for this. the genre of trap did start from hip hop music which kinda needs vocals. MOST hip hop instrumentals dont really sound good unless they have those vocals equipped (before you try to argue me on this, there have been ALOT of hip hop instrumentals i've had to have on constant loop while writing my own lyrics to, so trust me i know how they sound without vocals).

[itroitnyah]

Alright, apologies for bringing this thread back from the dead, but I was browsing soundcloud, and I came across trap music (while browsing tracks with the tag dubstep, lol. Guess it's sorta a combination of the two) http://soundcloud.com/thisistrapmusic/ill-gates-im-eel Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but just throwing this out there. Wouldn't be surprised if mods locked this subject to keep it down, lol

[Nine Volt]

Necroposting is a sin