Is the production more important than the artist as person?

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Is the production more important than the artist as person?

Postby 5COPY » 05 Aug 2012 15:39

This really have been bugging me a little. As everyone else here I'm a music lover. And I look up to a lot of artists out there like everyone else. But lately my eyes have been opened towards some artists out there that I just feel isn't worthy of my support.

An Example is Adventure Club that I brought up in another thread. Now the same thing have happen with another artist who's work I like named Revolvr

And lately it have happend to me with other artists aswell now, when I say that I don't mean just silly follows and unfollows on soundcloud, but actions that I disaprove of (even in the brony community). I just don't know anymore. I don't want to support a person who is a dick to others. But I can't deny they are good at what they do and that I somewhat enjoy it. I respect that a famous artist can't support everyone but when they simply decide to stop supporting someone and using the excuse that they're not popular enough... Really... That is a major dick move

And not just that but also people with a giant ego who seese themselves to be superior to other artists simply because they know what quality their work holds and therefore see themselves to be flatout better than everyone else. It just anoys me so much, there isn't one artist out there, who is big today, who wasn't in the same place as we are. Ugh I just don't know anymore

And in all honesty I would a lot rather have a good artist who constantly call himself bad than a good artist who think he is amazing at everything
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Re: Is the production more important than the artist as pers

Postby soultensionbenjamin » 05 Aug 2012 16:17

Just support the music don't support the artist if they act that way... as soon as you don't like the music stop supporting him/her and people need to have confidence in themselves, now arrogance is something that needs to be avoided but i find nothing wrong in taking pride of your work and really if an artist only care about popularity and being the best and most well known that's not a good thing we are artists not celebrities we do this because we love it not because we want to please others, and if 1 acts like a celebrity 1 must accept both the negatives and positives of becoming 1

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Re: Is the production more important than the artist as pers

Postby CommandSpry » 05 Aug 2012 17:36

1) You can't deny him the talent that he has (you can't tell him that he sucks all of a sudden because he became a dick)
2) You can stop following his music and listening to it, but you cannot tell people that his music is bad. You can only give the exact same reason you have
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Re: Is the production more important than the artist as pers

Postby Mundius » 05 Aug 2012 18:00

I can say Bieber's music is bad, no problem. I hate the music. I hate that stupid kid more. I never say his music is horrible though, I've heard worse.

Remember- if someone asks you about a person's music, tell them the truth. If they ask you about said person, tell them the worse truth.
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Re: Is the production more important than the artist as pers

Postby Peak Freak » 05 Aug 2012 18:32

Sometimes artist are prescribed to behave like assholes, due to PR/marketing stuff... and sometimes they are just assholes...
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Re: Is the production more important than the artist as pers

Postby Anforium » 05 Aug 2012 18:43

One of my favorite bands is Van Halen. The guitarist, Eddie Van Halen is a complete douche bag. However, he is also one of my favorite guitarists. Appreciate the talent, not the person.
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Re: Is the production more important than the artist as pers

Postby Mundius » 05 Aug 2012 19:15

Peak Freak wrote:Sometimes artist are prescribed to behave like assholes, due to PR/marketing stuff... and sometimes they are just assholes...


And sometimes both.
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Re: Is the production more important than the artist as pers

Postby MorteMcAdaver » 06 Aug 2012 05:52

It's for this reason that I tend to be reluctant about meeting celebrities. If I do, I tend to keep it brief and just pay my respect to their abilities before I find out something I might hate about them. This exception to this would be if I met Danny Elfman; I would turn into a giddy schoolgirl.

But yeah, in the end, if they have talent, just try to enjoy it for what significance it holds to you. As a musician, just try to remain a good example of what you think musicians should be, so to speak. In other words, just strive to inspire others to not be douchecakes to others, regardless of how popular or widely-respected you may become.
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Re: Is the production more important than the artist as pers

Postby Trillionage » 06 Aug 2012 10:28

CommandSpry wrote:1) You can't deny him the talent that he has (you can't tell him that he sucks all of a sudden because he became a dick)


While you can't really say that he has no talent, you can still say that his personality sucks. Talent doesn't preclude somebody from being an asshole.

To me, an artist's personality really has an effect on how i listen to their music. I normally can't separate those two things since whenever i hear the artist i think of them and frequently, (as corny and stupid as it sounds) music is still an extension of the artist's personality. If the artist is a complete dick, i won't be able to stop thinking about that while hearing their music. Also, how they treat their fans is a big concern to me.

For example, i personally swore to never listen to Deadmau5 (at least to the extent of never going to any of his live shows if i ever had the opportunity) because of the "we all press play" deal. If you are just going to be playing your songs and just moving random knobs around, what's the point of going to see you live? That to me seems a bit disrespectful since people are paying to see you. You might as well make it worth their money and not just do what could be done cheaper in some random club.
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Re: Is the production more important than the artist as pers

Postby Anforium » 06 Aug 2012 10:34

Kyoga wrote:
Anforium wrote:One of my favorite bands is Van Halen. The guitarist, Eddie Van Halen is a complete douche bag. However, he is also one of my favorite guitarists. Appreciate the talent, not the person.


As of personally meeting with him and having the world's quickest 1:2 conversation, I would have to disagree with you.
To me van halen seems like a pretty good guy who simply is used to having such a ridiculously big fanbase.

David lee roth (their singer) on the other hand, is a freakin' dick.


Just various things he's done have lowered my respect for him as a person. As a guitarist though, he kicks ass!
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Re: Is the production more important than the artist as pers

Postby Captain Ironhelm » 06 Aug 2012 23:29

Luckily most of the artists I follow are somewhat decent people. The most I can do really is not buy their music if do something that goes over the line.
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