Any good Guitar and Piano VSTs?

[5COPY]

So I've been depending on synths for way too long and I really need more VSTs that are based on specific instruments.

Any of you guys know of any good Guitar and Piano VSTs? I'm really sick of the Nexus piano sounds and and I have no Guitar VSTs except Pre Plugins for my daw which is horrible imo

[Warbalist]

So I've been depending on synths for way too long and I really need more VSTs that are based on specific instruments.

Any of you guys know of any good Guitar and Piano VSTs? I'm really sick of the Nexus piano sounds and and I have no Guitar VSTs except Pre Plugins for my daw which is horrible imo

Why use a vst when there are plenty of guitarists giving their skills away for free, baby?!

But seriously, I understand and am sorry I don't know of any of those vsts off the top of my head, but I know they're out there. Good luck.

[NeonJalapeno]

If you can get Kontakt 5, there's several good piano libraries. I'd recommend Best Service's Galaxy II libraries if you're going for a warmer, more natural sound (especially the Vienna Grand), or Tonehammer's Emotional Piano if you're going for... well, a more emotional sound.

There are several guitar Kontakt libraries, but I don't know any that are particularly good.

[Foxtrot89]

Kontakt also has a handful of guitar sample sets. Depends what type of guitar you want. Prominy has good guitar libraries. They're pricey, but there really the best out there. Pettinhouse has cheaper sets that can be made passable. Electri6ity, realguitar, realstrat and reallpc are a few other libraries. As for piano, EZkeys is nice.

[konsolN]

I'm currently trying out "Solostring" by e-phonic.
It sounds good so far, but you can only edit one String appearently (but I bet you can just make multiple and combine these to make Cords :/ )

but I would recomment searching soundfronts and using VST Effects on them

[Warbalist]

I'll be a dick and say Guitarists are the best Guitar vsts

this is very true i have yet to find a vst thats anywhere near as good as a actual guitarist

some guitarists just suck, though. ;_;

Yeah, but it's not us.........I think.....

*Listens to Rusty Cooley*

NEVERMIND!

*Sells guitars on E-Bay*

[BlackElectric]

I'll be a dick and say Guitarists are the best Guitar vsts

this is very true i have yet to find a vst thats anywhere near as good as a actual guitarist

Now you have:

http://soundcloud.com/8dawn/progressive-guitar-cydonia-by

[Warbalist]

I'll be a dick and say Guitarists are the best Guitar vsts

this is very true i have yet to find a vst thats anywhere near as good as a actual guitarist

Now you have:

http://soundcloud.com/8dawn/progressive-guitar-cydonia-by

8Dio, should have figured...

SO MUCH COMPRESSION ON THAT TRACK! XP

[Lopsided]

Wow that's a good guitar..

I have also heard Strawberry Evolution Electric Guitar by Orange Tree Samples do some really cool stuff, I'd still prefer an actual guitarist but it seems pretty usable to me.

[Legion]

I'll be a dick and say Guitarists are the best Guitar vsts

this is very true i have yet to find a vst thats anywhere near as good as a actual guitarist

some guitarists just suck, though. ;_;

WHY IS EVERYBODY LOOKING AT ME ;_;

[Foxtrot89]

that's actually pretty sick. XD

Yeah, but that 8dio "progressive metal guitar" is just a loops library. Basically, it IS real recordings from real guitarists. So if you want to make that exact song you can, but go ahead and try to write your own with it.

Seriously, though, has anyone checked out the prominy samples? In the right hands, they're really flippin' cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70Qf1EVF1OU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZP4HftVios
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OPF7Mijakw

If I recall correctly, the guitar in this is also the SC from prominy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nWODCFo-Bw

They're totally passable. I use them when I don't have access to guitar as a sort of temp sketchbook type thing. It's not 100% convincing all the time, but for midi guitar you really can't do any better.

[Anforium]

4frontpiano is a pretty great free piano vst, at least I think so.

As for guitar DVS guitar is fun to mess with, but you can't beat a real guitarist.

[ChromaticChaosPony]

My method is this: Mesa Rectifier amp emulator + direct input guitar (my guitar is plugged into my audio interface) + compression + two separate sound gates + guitar hacks impulses + distortion pedal tweaked to only boost volume (volume and tone up, distortion down) + EQ to boost mids and remove any remaining hiss and fizz.

This works best for djent.

However, I'm still playing a real guitar. Please, don't use guitar VSTs to replace the guitarist. It doesn't work. Real guitarists are way better than midi. I'm with Kyoga on this one.

[Foxtrot89]

However, I'm still playing a real guitar. Please, don't use guitar VSTs to replace the guitarist. It doesn't work. Real guitarists are way better than midi. I'm with Kyoga on this one.

Not everyone has 24/7 access to a decent guitarists for either free or a one time payment. This whole shunning of non-real guitarists is a bit silly, especially when guitar samples are getting better. You can totally use some of the sample sets out there now for some quality guitar tracking.

It has its places. A willing, real and talented guitarist surely can't be 100% beaten by samples if they're available, but more times than not they aren't. And since OP asked for guitar VST's and not live guitarists, it's just polite to suggest more than "get a real guitarist."

[5COPY]

However, I'm still playing a real guitar. Please, don't use guitar VSTs to replace the guitarist. It doesn't work. Real guitarists are way better than midi. I'm with Kyoga on this one.

Not everyone has 24/7 access to a decent guitarists for either free or a one time payment. This whole shunning of non-real guitarists is a bit silly, especially when guitar samples are getting better. You can totally use some of the sample sets out there now for some quality guitar tracking.

It has its places. A willing, real and talented guitarist surely can't be 100% beaten by samples if they're available, but more times than not they aren't. And since OP asked for guitar VST's and not live guitarists, it's just polite to suggest more than "get a real guitarist."

This.

[5COPY]

It was never my intention to trying to replace anyone. I play guitar myself but only acoustic and do not own a recording mic and if I did. I wouldn't want to go through ton of mixing tricks to make it sound exactly how I wanted it to. And all I would ever use the vst for would be simple notes and stuff. Nothing super fancy like those incredible guitarists you see on stages and what not.

[Foxtrot89]

There are plenty of guitarists in the fandom that can't find a place.
Many of them are more than qualified to tackle your little queries.

again, real instruments will always triumph over fake ones. (Given practice and skill)

As a guitarist myself, I have no trouble admitting that sampled guitars can indeed sound convincing enough in the right circumstances. (Even now with 60GB libraries devoted to one guitar, they lack expression via velocity layers and such.) Even with the willing guitarists around the internet, you have to wait for them to do their thing, record it, then send it. Then, the OP would have to judge if the guitar track is good enough and if not have them re-record the track. This could be taking place in different time zones/continents so it could be a very long (days or weeks) and tedious process for something that could have been done, even if not 100% convincingly, perhaps satisfyingly enough in a fraction of the time for the OP. During all of this you also have to hope they don't get bored and abandon your track, too.

The better thing to say is that if it's comfortably available, go for the real thing. If you don't have easy access to the real thing, use the best thing available to you. Saying "Oh, well, I have no real guitarist around I guess I'm just not gonna record this song that's in my head" is a fools way of doing things. I mean really, find me a guitarist right now who's willing to develop upon this little riff I have going on in my head right now, exactly how I want it and have it tweaked and completely thought out and recorded within the next 5-10 minutes.

Don't worry, guitarists aren't being replaced. Things like these only make it a little easier on composers to mock up the sound they want.

The thing I find most amusing about the whole samples thing is that every guitarist is quick to throw a fit when you use guitar samples, but they'll be more than happy to use sampled brass, strings or drums. Just use what's available to you. Us DIY musicians would all be up shits creak without a paddle if we only relied on real live musicians.

Oh hey, look at that, I've ranted. Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine when people knock on alternative ways of doing things. Nobody here is saying "Fake guitar > real guitar." (though to some people I'm sure this is the case) Just that you can get acceptable results from samples, which is just more convenient and good enough for some folks.

edit: Also, I totally don't mean to be coming off like a total douche, which I likely am. I agree that real instruments are preferable to fake. If I could I'd have a live drummer and a whole 70 piece string section belting out my tunes. I don't have access to either, so I use libraries. They're not perfect, but they sound well enough.

[Warbalist]

There are plenty of guitarists in the fandom that can't find a place.
Many of them are more than qualified to tackle your little queries.

again, real instruments will always triumph over fake ones. (Given practice and skill)

As a guitarist myself, I have no trouble admitting that sampled guitars can indeed sound convincing enough in the right circumstances. (Even now with 60GB libraries devoted to one guitar, they lack expression via velocity layers and such.) Even with the willing guitarists around the internet, you have to wait for them to do their thing, record it, then send it. Then, the OP would have to judge if the guitar track is good enough and if not have them re-record the track. This could be taking place in different time zones/continents so it could be a very long (days or weeks) and tedious process for something that could have been done, even if not 100% convincingly, perhaps satisfyingly enough in a fraction of the time for the OP. During all of this you also have to hope they don't get bored and abandon your track, too.

The better thing to say is that if it's comfortably available, go for the real thing. If you don't have easy access to the real thing, use the best thing available to you. Saying "Oh, well, I have no real guitarist around I guess I'm just not gonna record this song that's in my head" is a fools way of doing things. I mean really, find me a guitarist right now who's willing to develop upon this little riff I have going on in my head right now, exactly how I want it and have it tweaked and completely thought out and recorded within the next 5-10 minutes.

Don't worry, guitarists aren't being replaced. Things like these only make it a little easier on composers to mock up the sound they want.

The thing I find most amusing about the whole samples thing is that every guitarist is quick to throw a fit when you use guitar samples, but they'll be more than happy to use sampled brass, strings or drums. Just use what's available to you. Us DIY musicians would all be up shits creak without a paddle if we only relied on real live musicians.

Oh hey, look at that, I've ranted. Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine when people knock on alternative ways of doing things. Nobody here is saying "Fake guitar > real guitar." (though to some people I'm sure this is the case) Just that you can get acceptable results from samples, which is just more convenient and good enough for some folks.

edit: Also, I totally don't mean to be coming off like a total douche, which I likely am. I agree that real instruments are preferable to fake. If I could I'd have a live drummer and a whole 70 piece string section belting out my tunes. I don't have access to either, so I use libraries. They're not perfect, but they sound well enough.

^What he said.

[Foxtrot89]

People spend years of their lives learning the various instruments within an orchestra. It's simply just far more convenient to spend $200-$1000 on a library than it is to find/record an orchestra. To a lesser extent it's the same for guitarists. I don't think it's cheap at all to have the vst "walk the walk." Sure it's a different set of skills required to get the song played out an recorded, but it does still take a massive amount of skill to write, program (even sometimes play), record, mix and master a piece.

I suppose I just have a different frame of mind. I don't particularly care HOW a piece was made, only that it sounds good. So long as you don't outright steal other peoples work, that is.

Really though, a Deadmau5 show may be fun for it's own reasons, but if I had to choose between that and a band of real live instrumentalists, I'll choose the instrumentalists over him any day. One thing EDM is almost incapable of is putting on an amazing and creative live show. The only group I've seen do a truly amazing EDM show is Pendulum, and they have live instrumentalists, which includes guitarists. The real thing is going nowhere. The second metal and rock bands are truly replaced by a guy with a VST is the day live shows lose their appeal and it's the second I put a bullet in my head.

For a good laugh though, look up videos of the sample library Electri6ity. I've yet to hear anyone make that thing sound even halfway decent, and the comment section is always flooded with "wow, this sounds real, absolutely flawless."

[Warbalist]

Like you said, I would love to have a real drummer or a brass/orchestraic section, but those things are easy to replicate (with as much emotion as you might need) versus a guitarist who spends years of his life devoted to practicing a single instrument to all the sudden see somebody sit down with a program writing things that would take a normal guitarist 10 years of hard labor to accomplish.

Easy to replicate? I'm sure you just mean "not to the discerning ear." Even the best orchestral and drum libraries can't hold a candle to the real thing.

The minute variations, little mistakes, random noises, instruments not working quite right, these are beautiful, little things that happen naturally to players and take a composer a while to program.

All this said, I use vsts for a bunch of things ALL THE TIME, but I just happen to play a lot of certain types of stringed instruments. I've even learned instruments to which I have no access. Just because I know shamisen players doesn't mean I don't need a good shamisen vst, and it's probably cheaper than a $1,000+ instrument......though I really would like one...

Also, making good synth patches, crazy sounds and tense buildups for electronic music seems to be challenging me like CRAZY! So much engineering. I'd tip my hat to all those great electronic musicians, if I was wearing a hat. I suppose the horns'll have to do: \m/

[Matthew N.]

Warbalist is the best guitar VST available.

[ChromaticChaosPony]

I'm not a good guitar VST? ;_;

But seriously. If you need a djent or progressive metal guitarist, collab with me. I can play pretty good. I'm especially good with odd rhythms. Example: I can play djent breakdowns in 13/8.

Sadly, I can't find a drummer or good metal drum samples, so I can't record a full song. If someone can provide drums, I can provide guitar.

[Foxtrot89]

I'm not a good guitar VST? ;_;

But seriously. If you need a djent or progressive metal guitarist, collab with me. I can play pretty good. I'm especially good with odd rhythms. Example: I can play djent breakdowns in 13/8.

Sadly, I can't find a drummer or good metal drum samples, so I can't record a full song. If someone can provide drums, I can provide guitar.

I'm curious to hear your songs, actually. Your ongoings of djent and odd time signatures has my curiosity piqued. Do you have any songs recorded/uploaded to the internets?

Also, I'd lend my drum programming skills if I didn't despise working in weird time signatures. If you program them out in standard midi, I could run them through some of the metal drum sample sets I have, though.

[Warbalist]

Warbalist is the best guitar VST available.

Aw, thanks man. *HUGGLES*

[Makkon]

hey guys



You need to plug it through an amp sim, but it's fantastic! Guitar Rig 5 is great for it.