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I give up, can someone else do my mastering or whatever?

Postby Kagetori » 15 Jul 2012 11:12

I just can't do it. It's sooo boring and I don't have a clue of what I'm doing or what I'm supposed to do. I don't have a clue of what this side chaining or equeing is (there are more, but the list of terms I don't know goes on for a while) so hopefully, someone wouldn't mind doing that stupid part after you make the file or whatever for me, I'm not even sure if mastering is what I'm talking about, but it's pretty clear what it is I mean.

If not, I'm not even going to make an attempt to do it, especially since I read if you don't know what your doing it'll make things sound worse.
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Re: I give up, can someone else do my mastering or whatever?

Postby Nikki-Layne » 15 Jul 2012 11:15

I'm not the best, but I have a basic understanding of how to mix and master.

Can I give it a go?
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Re: I give up, can someone else do my mastering or whatever?

Postby colortwelve » 15 Jul 2012 12:07

This will here's nothing wrong with asking for a hand at this point, but I'd consider taking some time to learn this yourself, so you can be more autonomous in your production. Go watch Youtube videos, read books on it, or get someone to personally help you, but do find a way to get to doing this yourself.

I might be able to do a little coaching, if you want... Or I could try to hook you up with a professional (but no guarantees there, I only know one guy, it really depends on who he knows and who'd be willing at all).
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Re: I give up, can someone else do my mastering or whatever?

Postby LFP » 15 Jul 2012 12:13

You're talking about mixing, which has a huge role in the creation of music.
I don't think you should "give up" on mixing, by saying that you're almost saying "I give up music" that's how important this is.

Sure it's booring as hell and can be quite frustrating when sometimes EQ'ing (etc) only makes your sound worse but with practice you'll get there.
Do you think a golfer would give up putting the ball from the green into the hole and let someone else do it only because its annoying and frustrating? - Obviously not.

My point is: Don't just give up on this, practice and learn instead, of course the ultimate choice is yours and yours only, but I am sure that the feeling when accomplishing your goals after struggling so hard will be much, much more rewarding then simply giving up on the hard and boring part.

I have the same feeling as you have right now (I'm actually very "newby" when it comes to producing), but I promised myself to work hard and get trough these problems, you should do the same!
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Re: I give up, can someone else do my mastering or whatever?

Postby Kagetori » 15 Jul 2012 14:13

LFP wrote:You're talking about mixing, which has a huge role in the creation of music.
I don't think you should "give up" on mixing, by saying that you're almost saying "I give up music" that's how important this is.

Sure it's booring as hell and can be quite frustrating when sometimes EQ'ing (etc) only makes your sound worse but with practice you'll get there.
Do you think a golfer would give up putting the ball from the green into the hole and let someone else do it only because its annoying and frustrating? - Obviously not.

My point is: Don't just give up on this, practice and learn instead, of course the ultimate choice is yours and yours only, but I am sure that the feeling when accomplishing your goals after struggling so hard will be much, much more rewarding then simply giving up on the hard and boring part.

I have the same feeling as you have right now (I'm actually very "newby" when it comes to producing), but I promised myself to work hard and get trough these problems, you should do the same!


This made me think, I really don't want to be dependent on anyone else...
but "mixing" sure as heck ain't the most important part. Music is melody, harmony and rhythm, which is everything I'm great at. I bet I don't even need to do this mastering or mixing or whatever to get fans and for my stuff to still sound great. I do give up and I'll prove your statement to be wrong, but I don't give up music.
So that's it now. This thread was a bit of a waste of time now...
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Re: I give up, can someone else do my mastering or whatever?

Postby Edened » 15 Jul 2012 14:32

http://howtomakeelectronicmusic.com/how ... -fl-studio :D
If you don't use FL this is may be useless to you.

Mastering is very important and even though I'm not very good at it I always try to get better.
It's up there with composing, mixing, etc. It's just another skill that one must learn.
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Re: I give up, can someone else do my mastering or whatever?

Postby XXDarkShadow79XX » 15 Jul 2012 14:45

Like Colortwelve and LFP said, giving up is really not the greatest option. Mastering IS as important as the song itself. The thread should be titled: "Can anyone help me with mastering?", or "I'm new to mastering, can anyone teach me how to do it?"
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Re: I give up, can someone else do my mastering or whatever?

Postby Kopachris » 15 Jul 2012 14:48

Kagetori wrote:This made me think, I really don't want to be dependent on anyone else...
but "mixing" sure as heck ain't the most important part. Music is melody, harmony and rhythm, which is everything I'm great at. I bet I don't even need to do this mastering or mixing or whatever to get fans and for my stuff to still sound great. I do give up and I'll prove your statement to be wrong, but I don't give up music.
So that's it now. This thread was a bit of a waste of time now...

Without mixing, your music will just sound like noise. Take your track "Large Box and Small Box," for example: you've got so much great stuff going on, so many layers, but I can't keep track of any of it because everything is covering up everything else. Mixing is to electronic music as orchestration is to orchestral music. There's a lot more to music than picking out harmonies and melodies--you also have to decide how to use them and figure out how to make them stand out.
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Re: I give up, can someone else do my mastering or whatever?

Postby Foxtrot89 » 15 Jul 2012 15:57

A good mix can make or break a song. I've heard some pretty nice songs that I never gave a second listen to because the mix was just awful. Just take a good look at the musicians who do get recognition. More times than not, they've got good mixes. If they have an awkward mix, then chances are they had above average ideas.

Anywho, you should take the time to learn stuff. A producer who doesn't know what the term EQ is will likely be laughed at. Lucky, though, it's a fairly simple concept that is easy to get into. It'll take time before you're great at it, but that's why you practice. Boyinaband and nfxbeats on youtube have great tutorials. They use specific DAW's but the info is generally pretty universal.
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Re: I give up, can someone else do my mastering or whatever?

Postby Kagetori » 15 Jul 2012 17:15

Kopachris wrote:
Kagetori wrote:This made me think, I really don't want to be dependent on anyone else...
but "mixing" sure as heck ain't the most important part. Music is melody, harmony and rhythm, which is everything I'm great at. I bet I don't even need to do this mastering or mixing or whatever to get fans and for my stuff to still sound great. I do give up and I'll prove your statement to be wrong, but I don't give up music.
So that's it now. This thread was a bit of a waste of time now...

Without mixing, your music will just sound like noise. Take your track "Large Box and Small Box," for example: you've got so much great stuff going on, so many layers, but I can't keep track of any of it because everything is covering up everything else. Mixing is to electronic music as orchestration is to orchestral music. There's a lot more to music than picking out harmonies and melodies--you also have to decide how to use them and figure out how to make them stand out.


I already fixed that track to my liking yesterday but haven't uploaded it, I just needed to change some volumes and duplicate a track after getting rid of the limiter thing. 7_7
But I like how it sounds enough now after that to not do that other stuff.
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Re: I give up, can someone else do my mastering or whatever?

Postby 5COPY » 16 Jul 2012 00:52

Mixing is a lot more important than you think. When a musician have finished learning their music theory. The only way they can bring their own work to the next level is to get started learning about sounds. and under that is mixing aswell as synth design. And also mastering.

Because on media frequencies block out eachother. and need to get EQed so everything can be heard clearly. Howeer mixing have slowly becomed a part of the creative side of music making aswell as music theory. Reason to that is because more and more plugins have been made that can do new things to your synths guitars, drums whatever instrument you have plugged. Infact if a person knows their music theory right, mixing would become the most important thing in music production Especially in any type of electronic genre. You really shouldn't giving up on it.

It's like learning how to be good at drawing

First you need to know what you wanna make.

Then you need to draw the sketch.

Then you need to make the overall layer.

Then you add the last details.
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Re: I give up, can someone else do my mastering or whatever?

Postby Camsy » 18 Jul 2012 00:40

Mastering is a really important part of the music (as said before by just about everyone), I myself have spent several years in professional studios learning how to master music. If you have a song in particular that you think is well worth my time, I can master it for you.

Mastering 'can' be fun, but I guess it takes the right sort of person to want to master. I really enjoy it myself which is why I guess I've gotten good at it. Things like unmixed 24 track versions of bohemian rhapsody make me squee for several minutes non stop and then I get to work for the next 15hrs straight mastering it! :D

Also
Edened wrote:http://howtomakeelectronicmusic.com/how-to-master-a-song-in-fl-studio :D
If you don't use FL this is may be useless to you.

I didn't actually read all of this but from what I scanned of it, I'd suggest not following its advice for the most part. There are elements of truth in it but you really want to do most of your mastering before you export the song as a single stereo file (which is basically the first step in that guide).

Edit: Sorry read a bit more of that guide, still stand by what I said before, but for particular genre of music (after already mastering the individual tracks) following that guide could be helpful.
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