I don't know about you but..

[the4thImpulse]

I am honesly getting quite sick of all the 'spamming' (for lack of a better word) thats been going on. I see forums as more a place to go to ask for help, give advice, and discuss whatever topics you want rather make one word posts just because you can. And now I'm seeing a lot of threads that were once helpful to me and others turn into annoying off topic discussions which only makes me sad. If one doesn't know the answer to someones question or don't want to contribute to the original topic I dont understand why one would post in that thread.

Everytime I log onto MLR now I see a bunch of new posts in threads I have previously posted in and almost half the time it has nothing to do with the OPs topic/question. I understand how threads can elvove into something diffrent and I'm not against that but when you try to have a mini conversation with someone I see it as nothing more then spam. Maybe its my way of thinking that is wrong and if so please tell me that I am wrong here and I will move on no problem but as it is now I find MLR a whole lot less appealing.



I would like to know what other peoples thoughts on this. Does it bother you? Do you at all care? Am I just being a hater? I am ranting now I guess and if for any reason this offends anyone please know that was not my intention.


(This was quickly put together so its not completely well thought out or writen I'm going back to producing now.)

[Magnitude Zero]

I find it a bit irritating as well, to be honest. I mean it's mildly annoying at worst when a thread goes a bit off topic for a page or even two, because then it usually goes right back on topic. But the spam that seems to be leaking from the "Spam Thread 2" is taking it a bit far. I haven't brought it up because I'm predicting/hoping it'll die out within the week, but I gotta say I'm a tad disappointed in what I've been seeing these past few days.

In other words, you're not alone.

[colortwelve]

Maybe it's because I'm cool with the major perpetrators of the spam, or maybe it's because I'm just not worried that anything is really in jeopardy on MLR (because threads with legitimate questions get answered, just like always). While it can be something of a chore to find a certain thread sometimes, and on a purely superficial level it's odd to see one name plastered all over the main directory, it's not like it's threatening the music or anyone who makes it.

So, if you really do want my honest opinion, you might be overreacting just a little. Things look different, yes, but the same shit's getting done as always

[Indigo Spectrum]

As the original creator of the Spam Thread 2, I apologize if you guys are annoyed because of the spam that is leaking out of it. The spam that is coming out of it is out of my hands, and I apologize for the severe lack of foresight when I created the thread. But imo I still think that there still would be spam had I not created the thread. To me, I think that the spam threads are good at keeping the level of spam at MLR at bay, because people will spam regardless, and the spam threads are where people can get rid of those spamming tendencies. And also take into account that the spam that people are posting isn't really bad, I mean it's not like it's r34 or something like that, it's just pointless pics and random words.

So, yeah, that's just what I think.

[Magnitude Zero]

Yeah, I mean, I have nothing against the people who are doing it, really. They're having their fun and I can respect that. It's just a tad off-putting when I go to a thread and instead of finding a reasonable discussion, I see two or three people having a conversation they could easily conduct through PM or Skype or something.

Then there's that "let's see who can have our name show up all the way down the 'last post' column" contest, which, while kinda funny, I can see getting old very fast.

To the ninja who posted as I was typing this: I have zero problems with the spam thread. I think it's hilarious. It's significantly less funny, however, when that spam leaks out to the rest of the forums.

[Facade]

But the spam that seems to be leaking from the "Spam Thread 2" is taking it a bit far.
In other words, you're not alone.

i agree keep the spam in the spam thread where it belongs the rest of the forums is for showing off asking for help or being productive

[the4thImpulse]

I am glad that it isn't real spam (r34 and ect..) that is designed to derail topics soley for that purpose. I wish that the majority would be felt to the, now, two spam threads. The legitamate questions are still being answered just as fast as always but nowthey turn into OT conversations (after the first page or so). Once a thread goes off topic I, personally, find it really hard to get it back on topic or add my own insight to the OPs thread.

Like Blind said I have absolutely nothing against those that do it, they are having fun so who am I to stop it. It could also be much worse and by the looks of it they won't be going there any time soon. I just wish the majority of the spam and OT posts would be kept in the spam threads, or if you really want make your own thread for it.

As the original creator of the Spam Thread 2, I apologize if you guys are annoyed because of the spam that is leaking out of it. The spam that is coming out of it is out of my hands, and I apologize for the severe lack of foresight when I created the thread.

I would never blame you or any single person here; I see it more as a large group problem then any individual. And your right, there will always be spam and I would much rather see it in its own thread (which you created).

i agree keep the spam in the spam thread where it belongs the rest of the forums is for showing off asking for help or being productive

This is how I would like the forum to look and controlled spam would attrack more knowledgeable people here who could share their knowledge.

[inkBot]

I want to echo the sentiments in this thread. The spam threads are fun, when the spam is in the spam threads.

Without a sense of humour a forum can quickly come to feel stale. I've seen it happen. Spam threads can be good thing, it lets people goof around and blow off some steam by posting ponypics (the Best Pony thread is also a huge spamfest) or just do random stuff, and that is fine. But let's keep the spam where it belongs.

[vladnuke]

And this will now be a spam thread about spam threads spreading spam where it doesn't belong.


Wait, what?

[Ed Viper]

Yeah, I see this happening a lot too, but while it does pose a problem, I really don't see a whole lot there is to be done to stop it unless mods start banning people or deleting posts. You know, make a rule and then enforce it.

Much to my chagrin, I find that I am a contributor to this spam sometimes, although I've been trying to limit myself lately. I guess we can just hope that they see messages/threads like this and decide to cool off for a bit.

[Sugarholik]

This is the second time spam has been brought up on MLR...
We all seem to agree what the solution is

keep the spam in the spam thread where it belongs the rest of the forums is for showing off asking for help or being productive

just remember it and act accordingly!

PS: is it just me, or do the mods frequent this place less and less?

[Ed Viper]

PS: is it just me, or do the mods frequent this place less and less?

Yeah, that seems to be the case. That kind of thing seems to be inevitable with forums and the like, though.

[bartekko]

I already said that a couple of times but...

There's something we call the IRC chat. You can invite someone to the room by pm, then talk with him about the topic on the chatroom. It's WAY more effective than posting-replying

[Matthew N.]

All I can say is... yes, it annoys the flutterrage out of me - especially in the very important topics in the events section (one night The Lesser Knowns thread grew by 10 pages, with my rather significant question not being answered even today.) Those 10 pages contained mainly subjects COMPLETELY OFF the main issue.

Sometimes... I'm so frustrated I just want to scream... (catches breath) Aaaaaaaaaaaahhh.

And no, it won't make me feel better since spam is certain to happen everywhere.

[Legion]

I admit I've been a perpetrator of this, I'll try and do my part to help keep it in the spam threads.

Sometimes... I'm so frustrated I just want to scream... (catches breath) Aaaaaaaaaaaahhh.

I feel like you're taking this a little seriously.

[Facade]

This is the second time spam has been brought up on MLR...
We all seem to agree what the solution is

keep the spam in the spam thread where it belongs the rest of the forums is for showing off asking for help or being productive

just remember it and act accordingly!

PS: is it just me, or do the mods frequent this place less and less?

it seems that way maybe we need more mods?

[Matthew N.]

I admit I've been a perpetrator of this, I'll try and do my part to help keep it in the spam threads.

Sometimes... I'm so frustrated I just want to scream... (catches breath) Aaaaaaaaaaaahhh.

I feel like you're taking this a little seriously.

Taking this seriously? Well... in case of threads that interest me and a lot of other people - yes; in case of random threads - obviously not, as - if you haven't noticed - it was a quote from the show that was far from being serious.

[Legion]

I admit I've been a perpetrator of this, I'll try and do my part to help keep it in the spam threads.

Sometimes... I'm so frustrated I just want to scream... (catches breath) Aaaaaaaaaaaahhh.

I feel like you're taking this a little seriously.

Taking this seriously? Well... in case of threads that interest me and a lot of other people - yes; in case of random threads - obviously not, as - if you haven't noticed - it was a quote from the show that was far from being serious.

This, my friends, is why you never attempt to be humorous when you have no sense of humor.

As you've probably noticed, my dry humor doesn't seem to communicate over the internet.

[vladnuke]

This, my friends, is why you never attempt to be humorous when you have no sense of humor.

As you've probably noticed, my dry humor doesn't seem to communicate over the internet.

You're missing the snide and greater than signs.
>implying greentext is witty

[Freewave]

This is the second time spam has been brought up on MLR...
We all seem to agree what the solution is

keep the spam in the spam thread where it belongs the rest of the forums is for showing off asking for help or being productive

just remember it and act accordingly!

PS: is it just me, or do the mods frequent this place less and less?

it seems that way maybe we need more mods?

A couple things you guys need to take note of. The mods job is not to visit and patrol each and every thread. It's not. If you see spam happening YOU NEED TO FLAG IT.

That ! in the bottom right is how you would have a mod take action. It's up to everyone that when they see spam, see people calling other user's out inappropriately (the derailment in the hugging and venting thread), or see excess compliaining (which caused the EqD thread to be locked) that they need to be proactive and flag it. Don't wait for a mass thread to be locked, don't wait for a mod to happen to notice; if you see something not matching the spirit of rym take action and speak up and flag it if you need to.

I'll be honest I have noticed in the last couple weeks there are very few familar faces of people I used to see as regulars and many more brand new people. That's not a bad thing as long as the changes in MLR aren't causing a mass exodus of people who have been here awhile. We need our veteran members to real keep the continuity of this place and the spirit alive. It's a shame that when you look through the first several pages of the introduction thread you see alll the people that created brony music and practically none of them are here anymore. That was before my time and that honestly sucks that's the case. This place shouldn't encourage a constant turnover of people and it should encourage a certain level of professionallism. That's up to all of us to see that through.

What I'm saying is let's continue to take care of rym if we appreciate what it is and if we care about it. That means positive criticism (some good, some bad) in the music threads and actually replying to people who've posted their music there, not just ignoring them. Meaningful threads about music and more interesting discussions. I don't welcome more brony musicians I just care about the quality music of the music remaining high. MLR is always about quality above quantity and if that flips I worry if it's good for anyone.

Sorry about the diatribe but this seems on-topic.

[Trillionage]

Although i'm not sure how much i have contributed with the off-topic spam, regardless of the amount, i'm sorry. And while i'm of the new members that DJ Pon-3 mentioned, i also feel sad that older member have all but disappeared. I would have enjoyed not only the more activity that the more members bring but also the experience that they've had here. When older members leave it always makes the place seem more old and empty.

[the4thImpulse]

A couple things you guys need to take note of. The mods job is not to visit and patrol each and every thread. It's not. If you see spam happening YOU NEED TO FLAG IT.

That ! in the bottom right is how you would have a mod take action. It's up to everyone that when they see spam, see people calling other user's out inappropriately (the derailment in the hugging and venting thread), or see excess compliaining (which caused the EqD thread to be locked) that they need to be proactive and flag it. Don't wait for a mass thread to be locked, don't wait for a mod to happen to notice; if you see something not matching the spirit of rym take action and speak up and flag it if you need to.

I'll be honest I have noticed in the last couple weeks there are very few familar faces of people I used to see as regulars and many more brand new people. That's not a bad thing as long as the changes in MLR aren't causing a mass exodus of people who have been here awhile. We need our veteran members to real keep the continuity of this place and the spirit alive. It's a shame that when you look through the first several pages of the introduction thread you see alll the people that created brony music and practically none of them are here anymore. That was before my time and that honestly sucks that's the case. This place shouldn't encourage a constant turnover of people and it should encourage a certain level of professionallism. That's up to all of us to see that through.

What I'm saying is let's continue to take care of rym if we appreciate what it is and if we care about it. That means positive criticism (some good, some bad) in the music threads and actually replying to people who've posted their music there, not just ignoring them. Meaningful threads about music and more interesting discussions. I don't welcome more brony musicians I just care about the quality music of the music remaining high. MLR is always about quality above quantity and if that flips I worry if it's good for anyone.

Sorry about the diatribe but this seems on-topic.

Thanks for posting that.

Although i'm not sure how much i have contributed with the off-topic spam, regardless of the amount, i'm sorry.

Its no one persons fault and my intentions are not to single anyone out here. I am sure I have contributed to it at one point aswell, I just want to keep it in the spam topics as much as possible as it will only keep the site looking better.

[gnarbeard]

Words of wisdom

Brilliant post is brilliant. Thanks for posting it.

Although i'm not sure how much i have contributed with the off-topic spam, regardless of the amount, i'm sorry. And while i'm of the new members that DJ Pon-3 mentioned, i also feel sad that older member have all but disappeared. I would have enjoyed not only the more activity that the more members bring but also the experience that they've had here. When older members leave it always makes the place seem more old and empty.

I'm a newer member myself, so I feel the same way. It's a shame that many of the artists that inspired me to try all this music stuff out for myself no longer have much of a presence on the forums anymore. I'm hoping it's because they're busy people working on projects, like Balloon Party, and/or busy with RL stuff, like final exams or work. Not because they're put off by all us newbies.

[Makkon]

While I appreciate everyone for being nice and civil, and for having a seemingly good sense of humor, but to echo the original post and everything that DJ Pon3 said please try to keep it contained unless it's an intended and 'acceptable' spam thread.

No more pointless topics, please. There is a time and a place for that.

Try to stay on topic. If the topic is spam, by all means, spam away.

And please continue to remain civil. It's far worse to derail a topic with a loud argument than it is with spamming.

To give you a little perspective, MLR has grown a lot faster than what we intended. At this point, Fry and I a running this show by ourselves. If you care for our mental wellness and stress levels, please try to contain yourself. We're very tired of having to clean up after you kids. Knock it off, or we'll be passing around tickets to outer darkness.

Outer darkness is a scriptural term for the state of being in utter misery, or hell.

By that I mean I will ban you.


I hope by this point we've made ourselves clear. We're fair, and we will be reasonable. But this is getting out of hand.