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The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Ed Viper » 08 May 2012 16:05

Okay, so I recently saw this and my first thought was rather positive, but after thinking about it a bit I'm not quite sure this is such a good idea.

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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Freewave » 08 May 2012 16:21

Nice gesture but ultimately a dumb waste of money. If you want hasbro to know you're a brony and not just their ideal target audience just shoot them a free email and tell them that or do that AND buy one of their products (so they will keep them in stores). Ultimately if you send this guy your money you'll have no idea if he hits the target goal needed for an ad AND that money can disapppear in his wallet. Could easily be just a scam.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby the4thImpulse » 08 May 2012 16:29

DJ Pon-3 wrote:Nice gesture but ultimately a dumb waste of money. If you want hasbro to know you're a brony and not just their ideal target audience just shoot them a free email and tell them that or do that AND buy one of their products (so they will keep them in stores). Ultimately if you send this guy your money you'll have no idea if he hits the target goal needed for an ad AND that money can disapppear in his wallet. Could easily be just a scam.

I agree with this, why do we need a commercial just to say were bronies, we exist and thank you for FiM.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Interrobang Pie » 08 May 2012 17:15

Uh

There's pride and there's just plain creepy.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Ed Viper » 08 May 2012 20:50

That's the kind of thing I'm worried about. It says they're planning on airing the commercial during prime time on the hub, however MLP usually never plays at this time. That means the amount of parents watching this commercial will be at a maximum of sorts, and if parents were so quick to write angry letters about Derpy, who knows what they'll do when they see this commercial?

Now, I know most parents out there are normal, reasonable people, but it doesn't take a whole lot of people to push an agenda. I'm worried some parents will write letters and emails to Hasbro saying things like "WHY IS YOUR SHOW PROMOTING THESE PEDOPHILES FIX THIS RIGHT NOW!" and Hasbro will be pushed back up to a wall once again. I only fear this time they will start pulling down YouTube videos for copyright and other things to kind of subtly destroy the brony fanbase.

Now, I understand that is a slippery slope mentality and is a logical fallacy (curse you, Communications class), but I still think it's a possibility. I dunno, I'm worried.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby the4thImpulse » 08 May 2012 23:13

EmpUbermensch wrote:That's the kind of thing I'm worried about. It says they're planning on airing the commercial during prime time on the hub, however MLP usually never plays at this time. That means the amount of parents watching this commercial will be at a maximum of sorts, and if parents were so quick to write angry letters about Derpy, who knows what they'll do when they see this commercial?

Now, I know most parents out there are normal, reasonable people, but it doesn't take a whole lot of people to push an agenda. I'm worried some parents will write letters and emails to Hasbro saying things like "WHY IS YOUR SHOW PROMOTING THESE PEDOPHILES FIX THIS RIGHT NOW!" and Hasbro will be pushed back up to a wall once again. I only fear this time they will start pulling down YouTube videos for copyright and other things to kind of subtly destroy the brony fanbase.

Now, I understand that is a slippery slope mentality and is a logical fallacy (curse you, Communications class), but I still think it's a possibility. I dunno, I'm worried.


I am starting to think that this could possibly do more harm then good (and I still don't understand the good). I think they just just post something on youtube and share it around rather public t.v.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Ed Viper » 08 May 2012 23:47

the4thImpulse wrote:I am starting to think that this could possibly do more harm then good (and I still don't understand the good). I think they just just post something on youtube and share it around rather public t.v.


Well true, but the whole point of this is to try and prove to the public that bronies aren't all basement-dwelling neckbeards or something.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby the4thImpulse » 08 May 2012 23:56

EmpUbermensch wrote:
the4thImpulse wrote:I am starting to think that this could possibly do more harm then good (and I still don't understand the good). I think they just just post something on youtube and share it around rather public t.v.


Well true, but the whole point of this is to try and prove to the public that bronies aren't all basement-dwelling neckbeards or something.


That makes sense, I never really looked into it enough. If thats what they wan't to say then they should focus on the good things we do like all the charities and the whole 'love and tolerarte' idea rather "we love MLP, look at our fan art".
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Matthew N. » 09 May 2012 08:34

EmpUbermensch wrote:That's the kind of thing I'm worried about. It says they're planning on airing the commercial during prime time on the hub, however MLP usually never plays at this time. That means the amount of parents watching this commercial will be at a maximum of sorts, and if parents were so quick to write angry letters about Derpy, who knows what they'll do when they see this commercial?


THIS! ^

A very good point. It will definitely do more harm than good... if any good other than "OMG WE'RE ON THE TV! YEEEEEEEEEEAAAH!" reaction.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Icky » 09 May 2012 08:56

All I can think is this is a terrible idea that I do not want to be associated with at all.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Navron » 09 May 2012 09:07

Apparently the script for what it's going to show is floating out there somewhere, because some concerned bronies have stated that they've, "seen the script and it's actually not bad as they feared."

Nevertheless, I still don't like the idea.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Trillionage » 09 May 2012 16:14

Sign me in in the "this is a quite creepy idea that may do more harm than good". As much as it sucks to admit, the fact that the show snagged such fanbase of mostly teenaged to adult men is still considered odd by some and when dumb shit like these can misinform moms who aren't so well adept with the internet, a paid advertisement made by old fans of a family/childrens' cartoon would ring pedo-bells faster than a guy with a windowless van and a creepy mustache asking your kid brother to sit on his lap.

That ans some people would be just weirded out and confused about this "Brony" campaign in the middle of elections. Think of all the old ladies watching the Hub during primetime asking themselves "Who is this Brony fellow? Wasn't his name Romney? He seems like a nice fellow. I'll vote for him." And then just getting their hearts crushed at the booth when they find out there is no "Brony" candidate". (Election season is coming in the US)
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Ed Viper » 09 May 2012 23:25

NavyBrony wrote:Apparently the script for what it's going to show is floating out there somewhere, because some concerned bronies have stated that they've, "seen the script and it's actually not bad as they feared."

Nevertheless, I still don't like the idea.


You can see the script on the page I linked to if you scroll down a bit.

This idea it just..ugh I'm really not sure about it at all. Also, "We've hit our minimum mark, but keep the donations coming! The more money we have the more times we can run the ad!"

Why not just run it once or twice and give the rest to a charity?
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby gnarbeard » 10 May 2012 10:08

EmpUbermensch wrote:
NavyBrony wrote:Apparently the script for what it's going to show is floating out there somewhere, because some concerned bronies have stated that they've, "seen the script and it's actually not bad as they feared."

Nevertheless, I still don't like the idea.


You can see the script on the page I linked to if you scroll down a bit.

This idea it just..ugh I'm really not sure about it at all. Also, "We've hit our minimum mark, but keep the donations coming! The more money we have the more times we can run the ad!"

Why not just run it once or twice and give the rest to a charity?


I saw a news post on DHN that said once they met their minimum for the ad they were going to put the rest in a charity fund. I hope that's true. It makes me feel a little better about this whole thing, but still (I'm in "I don't think this is such a good idea" boat as well).
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby the4thImpulse » 10 May 2012 15:24

I found this link to a picture on deviantart that sums up some of my thoughts on this, just thought I should share this around.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby inkBot » 10 May 2012 15:46

At first glance I thought it was a neat idea. Thinking about it though, yeah this could cause the exact opposite reaction than intended.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Matthew N. » 10 May 2012 16:51

the4thImpulse wrote:I found this link to a picture on deviantart that sums up some of my thoughts on this, just thought I should share this around.


I couldn't have put it better myself.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Ed Viper » 10 May 2012 20:20

the4thImpulse wrote:I found this link to a picture on deviantart that sums up some of my thoughts on this, just thought I should share this around.


Yeah, that's about perfect. Hopefully the guy sees this and changes his mind about it and can maybe somehow give the money back... I dunno it's kind of a bad situation.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Ed Viper » 10 May 2012 20:41

Kyoga wrote:they have so much money though, how are they going to change their mind without pissing off their donators?


Yeah that's what I was thinking as I wrote that :/ *sigh* there really is no way this can end well at all.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Ed Viper » 10 May 2012 20:51

Eh. Yeah, I guess so. I just really REALLY hope that if they do air this commercial that people don't get freaked out by it.

Seriously, though, it seems really unnecessary.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Trillionage » 10 May 2012 21:33

It would be ok if it were a advertising a charity. Just saying thank you to the creators of the show aside from feeling a bit creepy (Seriously even political ads try to avoid that path) it would just be self indulgent.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Ed Viper » 10 May 2012 22:06

Kyoga wrote:I just think that people would take it as a little bit too invasive. After all, in spite of the fact that we all know and love the show, there are still alot of children that watch the show that would be confused by bronies appearing on a commercial.


Good point. I recall one time when I posted on an MLP-themed picture on facebook my oldest brother commented that he was watching MLP on hub with his three year old when he saw that I commented on it.

I feel that sometimes a lot of bronies get into this mindset that children don't watch this show and it's just for them - that may be a driving factor behind this.

And really, such a grand gesture of thanks really isn't necessary. Sure, MLP is a great show, and is a great example of why the animation industry isn't dead, but it's not as if shows just as good or maybe even better haven't come before, and there will certainly be more after.
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Trillionage » 10 May 2012 22:42

EmpUbermensch wrote:
Kyoga wrote:I just think that people would take it as a little bit too invasive. After all, in spite of the fact that we all know and love the show, there are still alot of children that watch the show that would be confused by bronies appearing on a commercial.


Good point. I recall one time when I posted on an MLP-themed picture on facebook my oldest brother commented that he was watching MLP on hub with his three year old when he saw that I commented on it.

I feel that sometimes a lot of bronies get into this mindset that children don't watch this show and it's just for them - that may be a driving factor behind this.

And really, such a grand gesture of thanks really isn't necessary. Sure, MLP is a great show, and is a great example of why the animation industry isn't dead, but it's not as if shows just as good or maybe even better haven't come before, and there will certainly be more after.


And that's another thing. While MLP is a good show, there are still many other good shows on TV. Shows that also break ground for different reasons. Yet their fans aren't making fundraisers to make a 30 second spot that would just repeat what the creators of the show already know (That adult men and women love the show and them) and make a fool out of everyone involved. As someone on the DA thread Impulse linked to said (i'm paraphrasing) "if you want to show gratitude to the creators of the show, why not donate to charity or help them directly with funding for their projects".

Especially for those that respect Faust. Anyone who has seen her DA would be aware of how much she wishes to kick in gear her "Galaxy Girls" idea. Wouldn't Faust be far more grateful by getting funding than by a 30 second ad that she might not even watch ever?

PS: The name of Faust's pet project is Galaxy Girls, not Galactic Girls as i used to think. The google results for the later are...interesting (it's porn BTW, "ALIEN" porn).
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby ChromaMonster » 10 May 2012 23:10

This is a bad idea and they should feel bad.

The entire thing reeks of ego and a "we're doing this just to show that we can" mindset, when the money could be so much better spent on charity instead. The scary thing is, this project received $8000 dollars within a single day of its inception, which is quite scary. Well, if it must go through, here's to hoping that its good.

As a side note, that dA link just gave me a little more hope in the community; that was a nice way to settle a dispute :D
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Re: The Brony Thank-You Project

Postby Ed Viper » 11 May 2012 00:39

ChromaMonster wrote:This is a bad idea and they should feel bad.

The entire thing reeks of ego and a "we're doing this just to show that we can" mindset, when the money could be so much better spent on charity instead. The scary thing is, this project received $8000 dollars within a single day of its inception, which is quite scary. Well, if it must go through, here's to hoping that its good.

As a side note, that dA link just gave me a little more hope in the community; that was a nice way to settle a dispute :D


Yeah it's good to see that we're not the only ones disagreeing with this. It was a pretty well worded argument too.
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