The hugging/venting thread

[LFP]

Omgawsh I'm traveling to LA in 1 month.

Ot: I don't want to post my story : (


Much love to everyone else tough.
Oh and just keep being awsome vlad, you'll make it trough these rough times!

[Lethaargic]

Somehow I managed to over-right the track I had been working on for a month for balloon party. It's all gone. How could I be such an incompetent moron. Really, I can live with loosing the work. Even the chance to get on the album. What I can't stand is that once again I made a commitment to something, and screwed it up. How can anyone ever trust me, especially to colab. I f*cking hate myself right now, and don't really fell like making music. I don't feel like doing anything.

[Trillionage]

Somehow I managed to over-right the track I had been working on for a month for balloon party. It's all gone. How could I be such an incompetent moron. Really, I can live with loosing the work. Even the chance to get on the album. What I can't stand is that once again I made a commitment to something, and screwed it up. How can anyone ever trust me, especially to colab. I f*cking hate myself right now, and don't really fell like making music. I don't feel like doing anything.

That sounds really harsh. Something like that once happened to me. I was halfway through with a project for my design class and I spilled red ink all over it. I completely lost hope on the project specially since it was due after the weekend (it was a Friday) and the fact that i was working on friday was to avoid procrastinating.

Don't beat yourself up too hard over it. I'm sure that if you explain what happened, they'll understand. After all, we all make accidents.

[vladnuke]

Somehow I managed to over-right the track I had been working on for a month for balloon party. It's all gone. How could I be such an incompetent moron. Really, I can live with loosing the work. Even the chance to get on the album. What I can't stand is that once again I made a commitment to something, and screwed it up. How can anyone ever trust me, especially to colab. I f*cking hate myself right now, and don't really fell like making music. I don't feel like doing anything.

If it's FL, you can revert to last save.

[Kromium]

Don't know if someone has mentioned (too lazy to read entire thread) this but my friends seem to have a very narrow mindset when it comes down to music. Almost as if it weren't Skrillex (respect for this guy) or Lil Wayne (YCMB is such garbage by the way) that the music which I play is primarily crap. Take for example Makkon vs Not a Clever Pony - Lunar Republic that I played for my friends today just to show them the flagship of brony musicians. They dismissed it as trailer music and went about their business (Makkon or NC if you are reading this I'm sure that they meant no offense). It kinda makes me mad that their lack of respect for any other producer if it wasn't hard enough or it didn't have enough wobbles or whatever (BTW I know music is subjective and all) but if you enjoy listening to garbage music like Nikki or Lil wayne and aren't willing to branch out and understand the complexities and effort into creating a track then you are ignorantly minded to start criticizing a track that is just as good or even better than the garbage pop (musicians) that are on the radio every single day. I believe that my friends have been "bought into the music industry," so much so that my friends started determining the "skill" of an artist by the amount of money they get, and although money can be compared to success it can never, ever be compared to skill.

I know my bias is showing but I just can't stand them saying that the music isn't not good when the artist, which they called sh*t spent a lot of time and consideration into making a track for the masses to hear.

[vladnuke]

Don't know if someone has mentioned (too lazy to read entire thread) this but my friends seem to have a very narrow mindset when it comes down to music. Almost as if it weren't Skrillex (respect for this guy) or Lil Wayne (YCMB is such garbage by the way) that the music which I play is primarily crap. Take for example Makkon vs Not a Clever Pony - Lunar Republic that I played for my friends today just to show them the flagship of brony musicians. They dismissed it as trailer music and went about their business (Makkon or NC if you are reading this I'm sure that they meant no offense). It kinda makes me mad that their lack of respect for any other producer if it wasn't hard enough or it didn't have enough wobbles or whatever (BTW I know music is subjective and all) but if you enjoy listening to garbage music like Nikki or Lil wayne and aren't willing to branch out and understand the complexities and effort into creating a track then you are ignorantly minded to start criticizing a track that is just as good or even better than the garbage pop (musicians) that are on the radio every single day. I believe that my friends have been "bought into the music industry," so much so that my friends started determining the "skill" of an artist by the amount of money they get, and although money can be compared to success it can never, ever be compared to skill.

I know my bias is showing but I just can't stand them saying that the music isn't not good when the artist, which they called sh*t spent a lot of time and consideration into making a track for the masses to hear.

Some people don't really like music. Some people just buy into the mentality of pop culture. Nothing wrong with that.

[Navron]

Don't know if someone has mentioned (too lazy to read entire thread) this but my friends seem to have a very narrow mindset when it comes down to music. Almost as if it weren't Skrillex (respect for this guy) or Lil Wayne (YCMB is such garbage by the way) that the music which I play is primarily crap. Take for example Makkon vs Not a Clever Pony - Lunar Republic that I played for my friends today just to show them the flagship of brony musicians. They dismissed it as trailer music and went about their business (Makkon or NC if you are reading this I'm sure that they meant no offense). It kinda makes me mad that their lack of respect for any other producer if it wasn't hard enough or it didn't have enough wobbles or whatever (BTW I know music is subjective and all) but if you enjoy listening to garbage music like Nikki or Lil wayne and aren't willing to branch out and understand the complexities and effort into creating a track then you are ignorantly minded to start criticizing a track that is just as good or even better than the garbage pop (musicians) that are on the radio every single day. I believe that my friends have been "bought into the music industry," so much so that my friends started determining the "skill" of an artist by the amount of money they get, and although money can be compared to success it can never, ever be compared to skill.

I know my bias is showing but I just can't stand them saying that the music isn't not good when the artist, which they called sh*t spent a lot of time and consideration into making a track for the masses to hear.

It's the same in many aspects of our world. Many indie films have better directors than Hollywood, many freelance VFX artists (like FreddieW and Corridor Digital) make special effects better than some Hollywood movies, and within the brony community, many musicians compose, mix, AND master better than many musicians with record labels and dedicated recording studios.

All that's coming from a 100% unbiased, purely analytical, and critical standpoint, from various aspects including concept, theory, and execution.

Not everybody appreciates art from an emotional level. Some people just like to watch what gets their adrenaline up, or listen to whatever sounds good.

They're the ones missing out, and their opinion doesn't matter.

[vladnuke]

The thing about hollywood is it's all cgi. It's when you notice it's cgi that you know someone fucked up. Even the boobs get cgi'd to look bigger, i.e. Megan Fox. Freddiew does really cool stuff, but a team composed of hundreds of rotoartists and more money than the gdp of three small countries is quite hard to beat.

[Ed Viper]

Don't know if someone has mentioned (too lazy to read entire thread) this but my friends seem to have a very narrow mindset when it comes down to music. Almost as if it weren't Skrillex (respect for this guy) or Lil Wayne (YCMB is such garbage by the way) that the music which I play is primarily crap. Take for example Makkon vs Not a Clever Pony - Lunar Republic that I played for my friends today just to show them the flagship of brony musicians. They dismissed it as trailer music and went about their business (Makkon or NC if you are reading this I'm sure that they meant no offense). It kinda makes me mad that their lack of respect for any other producer if it wasn't hard enough or it didn't have enough wobbles or whatever (BTW I know music is subjective and all) but if you enjoy listening to garbage music like Nikki or Lil wayne and aren't willing to branch out and understand the complexities and effort into creating a track then you are ignorantly minded to start criticizing a track that is just as good or even better than the garbage pop (musicians) that are on the radio every single day. I believe that my friends have been "bought into the music industry," so much so that my friends started determining the "skill" of an artist by the amount of money they get, and although money can be compared to success it can never, ever be compared to skill.

I know my bias is showing but I just can't stand them saying that the music isn't not good when the artist, which they called sh*t spent a lot of time and consideration into making a track for the masses to hear.

The thing about the music industry is that very often, success isn't based on skill, it's based on luck. There are literally hundreds of thousands of very talented and skilled musicians out there, just waiting to be discovered, but they never are. Instead, the guy from the record company was watching YouTube videos of some guy singing Journey songs and next thing you know he's their new singer. On the internet, it happens quite often that what's actually the best rises to the top, but past that it's simply luck.

I agree with your sentiment, in that most of what's considered "popular" these days is re-hashed garbage, but NavyBrony's right when he says they're the ones missing out. I'm lucky to have been born into a family where some of them can subjectively appreciate the complexity of music, regardless of the subject matter (many of my friends think "brony music" is stupid or not well made simply because it references MLP). If your friends don't see eye-to-eye with you on this, then that's totally fine. At least they aren't rejecting you for listening to music about MLP

[MasterOfRegret]

i'm not entirely sure that it's possible for me to agree with you more.
my entire life i've watched music degrade from classic instrumentalism to a music style that's SO generic and overdone that literally ANYONE can do it.
I miss the times before when talented artists were the ones that were the most respected. Now it seems that it's the other way around, and in alot of the world today, if you want to play anything that's not dubstep electronic or techno, you've got a mighty uphill battle to fight before anyone give a crud about you or what you write.

In the music industry, talent is become less and less meaningful, and unfortunately, the true musicians who put true effort and true thought into their creations are underappreciated, distressed and looked down upon.

I believe that the emotion that comes from music, comes from making your music a part of you.
and if you don't believe that, that's okay, but we will likely never see eye to eye.

I don't agree with most of this. If you play or write music that isn't Dubstep or Electro, you have just as much chance of being liked as anyone else. Those are the two genres that are well liked at this point in time, and there is an abundance of it on the internet. If you don't do that, that's cool. Those who like it will look for it on YouTube or Soundcloud or wherever, but a lot of them find forums and go from there. I think that the main reason the other genres have to fight "an uphill battle" is because they are looking in the wrong place.
A lot of the Brony Community like Tombstone or Omnipony yes. They'll look for other musicians that are Bronies, but because they started on Omni, it's hard to find someone out of a close range of genres. They like it because its catchy. That's the music industry.

The musicians who put thought and effort into their songs are appreciated, they just have to find the people who understand what they're thinking. No one can just tell without reading their mind. I respect them too, because they are musicians and I understand what they've done. Not everyone is a musician.

I believe that the emotion that comes from music, comes from making your music a part of you.
and if you don't believe that, that's okay, but we will likely never see eye to eye.

Sure, I agree. But not everyone's music has that emotion presented outright. If it is, cool, but that doesn't make it better or worse or more respected than someone who does shove it in the front.

[Navron]

Don't forget The Beatles and Led Zeppelin both fought uphill battles.

History is written by musicians who've gone against the norm of their time.

[Pickslide1992]

Guys, my aunt died. She took too much prescription medication and bit the dust. However that's not the sad part. The sad part is that I don't feel any emotion about it. I feel apathetic when I clearly shouldn't. A member of my family is dead and I don't feel sad at all. I feel there's something wrong with me. The only explanation I can think of is the fact that we never saw each other a lot, but that shouldn't be enough. She was a loving and kind woman and I'm pushing her death aside like yesterday's garbage.

What's wrong with me?

[Ed Viper]

Guys, my aunt died. She took too much prescription medication and bit the dust. However that's not the sad part. The sad part is that I don't feel any emotion about it. I feel apathetic when I clearly shouldn't. A member of my family is dead and I don't feel sad at all. I feel there's something wrong with me. The only explanation I can think of is the fact that we never saw each other a lot, but that shouldn't be enough. She was a loving and kind woman and I'm pushing her death aside like yesterday's garbage.

What's wrong with me?

Absolutely nothing. I know exactly what you're feeling and thinking, and I'm going to tell you that there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's actually quite common, in layman's terms, it just hasn't hit you yet.

When my first dog died, I was really stoic about the whole thing. For about a year I was like this, even though I didn't really like talking about him. However, about a year afterwards, I woke up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat and started bawling. All of the times I had spent with him and all the love I felt for him just hit me right then and there. Now, whenever I think about him, it brings a tear to my eye (like now).

This is because you weren't very close or didn't see each other often. Because she wasn't a part of your daily life, your body (for lack of a better term) hasn't really noticed she's gone yet. Eventually there's going to be a time when you would normally see her or what your "body" considers an abnormally long time since you've last seen her, and that's when it'll hit you.

There's really nothing wrong or abnormal about what you're experiencing, just make sure you know that much.

[colortwelve]

What's wrong with me?

Just like Emp said, there's nothing wrong with you. I've had family members die and kept a stiff upper lip, and have managed to live with my family shifting like an amorphous blob from coast to coast, never being with all of them at once, and seeing several of them go through pain I can't even comprehend due to various absurdities.

But there's nothing wrong with that. It has been said - it probably hasn't really hit you yet. I've wondered about this same sort of thing myself, and every time my mind just stops before I can actually begin the task of making sense of what exactly my experience's weirdness amounts to. I just can't think about it. Your situation is a degree more grave, and so nobody could blame you for doing the same. However, I know that eventually, I'm going to have to sit down and make sense of everything (God, that makes it sound like actual bad things have happened to me ), and at that point, the emotion will probably come. But until then, I just have to deal with not being able to feel much beyond joy and anger (weird combination ). At least it'll probably make the moment when I do finally shed a single manly tear all the sweeter. Just give it time.

[vladnuke]

What's wrong with me?

Nah, nothing. I thought the same thing when my grandparents died, but then I realized that I'm not really sad because I just didn't know them that well (they lived in Russia). It's a regular part of life, and one can't turn into a ball of tears over it forever. In fact, I felt a little better about not getting mournful when I started talking with my last remaining grandma more often. It helped me know that at least when she passes, I will have known her.

[Trillionage]

Guys, my aunt died. She took too much prescription medication and bit the dust. However that's not the sad part. The sad part is that I don't feel any emotion about it. I feel apathetic when I clearly shouldn't. A member of my family is dead and I don't feel sad at all. I feel there's something wrong with me. The only explanation I can think of is the fact that we never saw each other a lot, but that shouldn't be enough. She was a loving and kind woman and I'm pushing her death aside like yesterday's garbage.

What's wrong with me?

Everyone copes with death differently. The fact that you remember her for all the good things and she still in your minds means you still have emotions and are not pushing her back like yesterday's garbage. You are sad, but you don''t really fell so. Many of us after a while, for better or for worse, insulate our emotions and become somewhat cold and incapable of fully expressing what we feel. IT's just reality. I more or less felt almost like you when my grandmother died. Whenever i think of her, i feel sad sometimes misty eyed, but when i heard the news, i wasn't happy but not devastated even though i loved my grandmother like anything.

[Sinn Ick]

Oh yay, people are making me feel so happy lately... Not...
Everything i say or do is being ignored by EVERYONE. I tried to talk to artattack here, ignored, tried talking to someone on youtube for help, ignored, post a fucking REST IN PEACE on facebook, ignored, post on brony chatsites, guess what? IGNORED!

I don't know why but its really starting to bug me being no one talks (to me) anymore

[BronyTuber]

Oh yay, people are making me feel so happy lately... Not...
Everything i say or do is being ignored by EVERYONE. I tried to talk to artattack here, ignored, tried talking to someone on youtube for help, ignored, post a fucking REST IN PEACE on facebook, ignored, post on brony chatsites, guess what? IGNORED!

I don't know why but its really starting to bug me being no one talks (to me) anymore

I'm always up for a chat! Whatya wanna talk bout?

[Sinn Ick]

sinn ick.
Noone wants to talk to someone who's in a bad mood.
why don't you just lighten up and start a conversation rather than try to join one?

That's what i do, i try starting them, joining in, still get shoved aside. Don't know why it's bugging me so much latley, guess im just over stressed with this Balloon party + finals stuff. also chatting on here is perfectly fine, its other places i go to.

[Sinn Ick]

this is like the only place I actually hang out. well, that and ponysquare.
I try just to work while i'm talking on here.
half the time I put a post up i'm sitting at the chair with a guitar in my lap. XD

Nice hah, by the way, know of any ways i can record sounds in FL studio using a keyboard, the mouse is really a problem, having a beat and trying to make it in the piano roll using a mouse -_-

[BronyTuber]

this is like the only place I actually hang out.

Ya don't say?!?!?

I look over and just about every boards latest post has your name on it

[Trillionage]

this is like the only place I actually hang out. well, that and ponysquare.
I try just to work while i'm talking on here.
half the time I put a post up i'm sitting at the chair with a guitar in my lap. XD

Nice hah, by the way, know of any ways i can record sounds in FL studio using a keyboard, the mouse is really a problem, having a beat and trying to make it in the piano roll using a mouse -_-

Unless it's midi you would only be recording the actual keyboard's sound. I still don't know how it works (maybe you need to use the record button), but some keys on the (PC) keyboard seem to correspond to the Plugin keyboard in FL. But it's only i think for two octaves.

But about being ignored. I know how it feels. It sucks. But break is almost here so i have a feeling this place will get more active in a week.

[Sinn Ick]

this is like the only place I actually hang out. well, that and ponysquare.
I try just to work while i'm talking on here.
half the time I put a post up i'm sitting at the chair with a guitar in my lap. XD

Nice hah, by the way, know of any ways i can record sounds in FL studio using a keyboard, the mouse is really a problem, having a beat and trying to make it in the piano roll using a mouse -_-

Unless it's midi you would only be recording the actual keyboard's sound. I still don't know how it works (maybe you need to use the record button), but some keys on the (PC) keyboard seem to correspond to the Plugin keyboard in FL. But it's only i think for two octaves.

But about being ignored. I know how it feels. It sucks. But break is almost here so i have a feeling this place will get more active in a week.

normally i would be super happy for the break, but i have a job lined up, so no time off for me... more $ for music though!
And yeah, the zcxvbnm keys work with FL, but i kinda want somthing more, and the keyboards dont add sounds in pinao roll that i know.... know any cheap midi keyboards in canada?

[Ed Viper]

this is like the only place I actually hang out.

Ya don't say?!?!?

I look over and just about every boards latest post has your name on it

XD DONT MOCK ME!
I usually have this open in one window and Mixcraft open in another.
It's just... awesome...

Not to mention you joined this site just two days before I did and you already have 265 more posts than I do. :p

But also, Sinn Ick, I know EXACTLY how you feel, man. I feel the same way sometimes, but I just kind of say "Well if you're gonna just ignore me, you're not worth my time anyway" and come back here. Not really a big problem dude, and if you ever want to talk about something, shoot me a PM. I'm always up for a chat.

[Ed Viper]

XD all i'm trying to do is get my name out for collabs. i'm so excited to share my music with others I can barely contain my excitement. XD and I'm working on 2 collabs right now. one of them Dubstep, the other guitar. It's good getting to put my oscillators to the test. I'm working out some of the bugs right now, but the phasing is going so much better than I thought it would.

soooooo excited.

I'd be down to do a collab with you once I finish the one I'm doing with Matthew_N.

Buuuuuuuuut we're getting off topic here, so I suppose I'll type up a little rant to get us back on track -

So I parked at school the other day and got a parking ticket - the only thing is, I have a parking permit for this quarter, I was parked in an area where I'm supposed to be allowed to park, AND after looking at a large number of other cars around mine, I found that ALL of them had the same permit that I had, but without any tickets!

And this happened TWO DAYS IN A ROW. This seriously pissed me off. I appealed the tickets but they said I have to pay both of them because the area I parked in supposedly is "dedicated to faculty and visitor parking only until after 5:30 PM". But I went back today and checked the other cars, and NONE of them have faculty permits or single-day parking passes.

I mad >:(