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Postby Mazzive » 15 Mar 2012 07:34

A friend of mine (That's also is producing music), said that it was a good idea to try alot of genres. But here is my question, do you think it's a good idea, because remember, i'm new at music producing. And i got a list of some genres, just say if there's anything you want to add. Oh yea btw, my goal is to produce dubstep.

The list:

8-bit
Hardstyle
Trance
House
Drum and bass
Orchestra music
Pop
Dubstep
Hip hop
Reggae
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Sugarholik » 15 Mar 2012 07:48

Eeyup. It may be enough just to listen a lot of different genres. The idea behind it is pretty much widening your horizons and provoking new ideas. Analyze songs: focus on one instrument at the time and try to find out all the tricks they use to get that sound!
Sure it may be even better if you try and actually make different genres but I'd recommend ditching something for a while if it gets too difficult and you're not interested in producing that in the future. Burning out and frustrating is not the key here. Of course ask for advice on something you're not familiar with!
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Freewave » 15 Mar 2012 08:59

I think the key is being familiar with different types of music, finding one you feel comfortable understanding how its composed, and then being adept enough at it to make a good track with that knowledge. For example it may take you 2 or 3 songs before you get good enough results with dubstep before you're "good" at it to where it sound on par with the rest of the people doing it. So its worthwhile to find something you can make effectively and fit a need in the community. I'm all for trying a bunch of different styles as that adds variety and unpredictability as an artist but don't forsake quality if you go that route which can be the big drawback with such a choice. ;)
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Mazzive » 15 Mar 2012 09:01

MikeGallop wrote:Eeyup. It may be enough just to listen a lot of different genres. The idea behind it is pretty much widening your horizons and provoking new ideas. Analyze songs: focus on one instrument at the time and try to find out all the tricks they use to get that sound!
Sure it may be even better if you try and actually make different genres but I'd recommend ditching something for a while if it gets too difficult and you're not interested in producing that in the future. Burning out and frustrating is not the key here. Of course ask for advice on something you're not familiar with!

Oh okay, but then i will kinda steal other peoples sounds, and i wants to original. And if i'm not trying anything new, i won't get any ideas that could make my tracks better, like combinate some genres.
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby lunarz » 15 Mar 2012 09:32

Mazzive wrote:A friend of mine (That's also is producing music), said that it was a good idea to try alot of genres. But here is my question, do you think it's a good idea, because remember, i'm new at music producing. And i got a list of some genres, just say if there's anything you want to add. Oh yea btw, my goal is to produce dubstep.

The list:

8-bit
Hardstyle
Trance
House
Drum and bass
Orchestra music
Pop
Dubstep
Hip hop
Reggae


Just like me, i want to create really good dubstep, brostep and complextro and the odd bit of gabber schranz and hardstyle.

Trust me on this, try every genre going, i am, i tried my hand at making a creepy song and lone behold, it dosent suck and people actually like it, just try try and try you can never be wrong with music :P
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Mazzive » 15 Mar 2012 09:42

Thank you all, any suggestions for what genre that could be a good idea to start with. Or should i just pick that one, that i find most interresting? Or just choose an random one?
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby lunarz » 15 Mar 2012 09:45

Mazzive wrote:Thank you all, any suggestions for what genre that could be a good idea to start with. Or should i just pick that one, that i find most interresting? Or just choose an random one?


One thats easy to do to start off with, something not too complicated or boring.
Here take a listen to my latest song that people actually liked its that creepy one maybie it will inspire you :D
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Freewave » 15 Mar 2012 09:51

thats up to you man. i think we all prefer to hear a genre that hasn't been tried many times before by the community (REGGAE). but ultimately you need to decide what type of a song you want and a theme and then a genre that fits. Trance has a chilled but uptempo feeling, reggae has a relaxed and stoned swagger, Dustep wants to wub and stagger,; they're all different vibes and techniques so just plan accordingly. If you want ot put a WIP together and get further input on a project we welcome that. :)
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Mazzive » 15 Mar 2012 09:54

lunarz wrote:
Mazzive wrote:Thank you all, any suggestions for what genre that could be a good idea to start with. Or should i just pick that one, that i find most interresting? Or just choose an random one?


One thats easy to do to start off with, something not too complicated or boring.
Here take a listen to my latest song that people actually liked its that creepy one maybie it will inspire you :D

Yea, i see what you means with "creepy". And thanks for the tips. But it's not my cup of tea, i want something that is funky, and not "creepy". But great track btw!
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Mazzive » 15 Mar 2012 09:55

DJ Pon-3 wrote:thats up to you man. i think we all prefer to hear a genre that hasn't been tried many times before by the community (REGGAE). but ultimately you need to decide what type of a song you want and a theme and then a genre that fits. Trance has a chilled but uptempo feeling, reggae has a relaxed and stoned swagger, Dustep wants to wub and stagger,; they're all different vibes and techniques so just plan accordingly. If you want ot put a WIP together and get further input on a project we welcome that. :)

Okay thanks for the tips, i will think about a good genre that i will start with.
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Versilaryan » 15 Mar 2012 11:58

If you're new, it might be a good idea to stick to more closely related genres. It's really easy to get stuck because you aren't familiar with something and then call it quits.

But the more genres you know how to make, the better of a producer and songwriter you are, IMO. I LOVE hearing music that blends or defies genre categories.
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Mazzive » 15 Mar 2012 13:01

Versilaryan wrote:If you're new, it might be a good idea to stick to more closely related genres. It's really easy to get stuck because you aren't familiar with something and then call it quits.

But the more genres you know how to make, the better of a producer and songwriter you are, IMO. I LOVE hearing music that blends or defies genre categories.

Thanks for the tip, so finding a genre that's pretty much related to dubstep. Is that what you mean? Correct me if i'm wrong.
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby lunarz » 15 Mar 2012 13:14

Mazzive wrote:
Versilaryan wrote:If you're new, it might be a good idea to stick to more closely related genres. It's really easy to get stuck because you aren't familiar with something and then call it quits.

But the more genres you know how to make, the better of a producer and songwriter you are, IMO. I LOVE hearing music that blends or defies genre categories.

Thanks for the tip, so finding a genre that's pretty much related to dubstep. Is that what you mean? Correct me if i'm wrong.


I wouldnt start with dubstep man, its harder then it sounds trust me, start with something much softer, or try hardstyle
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Mazzive » 15 Mar 2012 13:15

lunarz wrote:
Mazzive wrote:
Versilaryan wrote:If you're new, it might be a good idea to stick to more closely related genres. It's really easy to get stuck because you aren't familiar with something and then call it quits.

But the more genres you know how to make, the better of a producer and songwriter you are, IMO. I LOVE hearing music that blends or defies genre categories.

Thanks for the tip, so finding a genre that's pretty much related to dubstep. Is that what you mean? Correct me if i'm wrong.


I wouldnt start with dubstep man, its harder then it sounds trust me, start with something much softer, or try hardstyle

Can you give some examples, more examples than just Hardstyle? ;-)
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Versilaryan » 15 Mar 2012 14:02

Electro house variants are always good. Trance is another easy genre to get started with. Most of those synths, you can look up tutorials online to make. Dubstep wobbles are freaking HARD. Sometimes, I literally spend hours perfecting a sound and it still doesn't sound good.
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Mazzive » 15 Mar 2012 14:30

Versilaryan wrote:Electro house variants are always good. Trance is another easy genre to get started with. Most of those synths, you can look up tutorials online to make. Dubstep wobbles are freaking HARD. Sometimes, I literally spend hours perfecting a sound and it still doesn't sound good.

Okay, trance sounds pretty interresting, i will give it a try. =)
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Unlimited Mana » 16 Mar 2012 00:07

DJ Pon-3 wrote:For example it may take you 2 or 3 songs before you get good enough results with dubstep


2 or 3?
Man, I suck at this.
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Mazzive » 16 Mar 2012 08:37

Unlimited Mana wrote:
DJ Pon-3 wrote:For example it may take you 2 or 3 songs before you get good enough results with dubstep


2 or 3?
Man, I suck at this.

It depends of how long time and how much you "upgraded" your track, after you got some feedback. =)
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Freewave » 16 Mar 2012 08:48

Dubstep too requires a certain level of technology to pull of well. You'll need specific vsts and techniques to even do them. Except for Psychedelic Brony who was recently doing some acapella dubstep. :P
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby DJSheogowrath » 16 Mar 2012 12:46

DJ Pon-3 wrote:Dubstep too requires a certain level of technology to pull of well. You'll need specific vsts and techniques to even do them. Except for Psychedelic Brony who was recently doing some acapella dubstep. :P

Not really. I have a friend who made a 5 minute dubstep song completely with FL Studio plugins. Granted, it wasn't really energetic or bro-steppish, but dubstep isn't just brostep. Look up some Skream or Benga (I'm at school so I can't embed youtube vids) to see what I mean.
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Freewave » 16 Mar 2012 13:27

DJSheogowrath wrote:
DJ Pon-3 wrote:Dubstep too requires a certain level of technology to pull of well. You'll need specific vsts and techniques to even do them. Except for Psychedelic Brony who was recently doing some acapella dubstep. :P

Not really. I have a friend who made a 5 minute dubstep song completely with FL Studio plugins. Granted, it wasn't really energetic or bro-steppish, but dubstep isn't just brostep. Look up some Skream or Benga (I'm at school so I can't embed youtube vids) to see what I mean.


oh i agree completely, its just so many new musicians call everything dubstep when what they are putting out such obviously Skrillex-derived brostep that its silly to call it that. It's sad when people can't look back only a handful of years to Benga and Skream to see what dubstep WAS. I think we are arguing the same thing. Sorry end rant.... :lol:
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby PrincessAddictia » 16 Mar 2012 15:32

There are genres that require more complex sound-design than others (Hardstyle, Dubstep, Drum'n'Bass, Some subgenres of House). Starting with those can be really frustrating and you'll need a long breath to come up with something decent.
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Legion » 16 Mar 2012 15:40

I just started listening to dubstep, and I've never listened to Skrillex. What's everybody's problem with him again?
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby the4thImpulse » 16 Mar 2012 15:44

legion2190 wrote:I just started listening to dubstep, and I've never listened to Skrillex. What's everybody's problem with him again?

From what I understand he took dubstep out of the underground scene and made it mainstream. I enjoy his music just as much as the old underground dubstep. People kinda just jumped on a bandwagon.
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Re: I wanna try some genres.

Postby Mazzive » 16 Mar 2012 15:59

legion2190 wrote:I just started listening to dubstep, and I've never listened to Skrillex. What's everybody's problem with him again?

The same as Impuls, i also enjoy his music. But i think it's because, after my opinion. That he combined Dubstep with Pop, House, maybe more. And some people thinks that his music is the "real" dubstep. And some got mad, and they meant that he ruined dubstep, and make people misunderstand it. That's what i heard and sees in some comments.
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