<Album><Pony> Skybreath

[Viricide Filly]

Well this took me three and a half months in total. The idea was thought up long before, though.
It's a mixture of electro house, glitch hop, dubstep and string stuff n shiz yeah.
http://viricidefilly.bandcamp.com/album/skybreath
In-depth feedback really appreciated!

[Guthey]

let me get back to you on this.. I was expecting like 5 songs.

Edit: Okay, we'll start with Rebirth.

NOTE: I CRITIQUE WORKS HONESTLY AND FORTHCOMINGLY, SO IF YOU DO NOT LIKE HONESTY, THEN DO NOT READ THIS!
TL;DR at the bottem!
Rebirth- Since i'm mainly a bass producer, I tell you about the bass first. Okay, IMO The bass didn't sound all that defined, like it was missing a little of the high-end, and the main bass that plays throughout sounds a little watery near the end of each note. I'm not going to give you an example because my style of bass is probably very different, But I'll give you an example only if you ask for it. Also, the VA isn't top notch, but there is nothing you can do about it, she's better than most I've heard though, so good job on that! . I liked the strings, very nice melody and they sounded pretty good.

Naive- Some of the bass in this track sounds like it was distorted to hell like at 1:18. I can see what you were going for, but It really doesn't seem to fit. Also, The flanger seemed like it was a little too overpowering, maybe you can just slowly bring it in to max when you "drop it." And there seemed to be a little too much compression when the chords played, but if you were going for that sort of rave feel, then it's all good. The chords seemed like they could have been picked up in volume a little, too. It sounded like they were just a sub element, when you make any lead chord related music, they need to be a dominant element. Lastly, fluttershy's voice seems a little out of place, esp. when she says "honey." I'm not good with vocals, so i can't give any advice on that. And the kick could use a little more on the highend, electro music usually has a pretty dominant kick in it too, but it's not as bassy as a dubstep kick. Unless this is a dubstep track, because if it is, it is a little too fast.

Undermare- I'm going to be honest and say I absolutely hate trap music and I never listen to it, so i'm not going to saying about this at all. But I will say that you have the structure and understanding of what a trap song consists of, so good job on that!

No More Roads To Travel- The bass seemed during the build like it had a little too much chorus. and the voices during :54 sounded extremely strange, I was actually deterred from wanting to listen to more, but the break revived my hopes a little. Basically, the voices sound weird a little in this song, and the melody could use a little more variation. I also got a reel2reel feeling from that melody. what Genre is this? It plays as a house song, but the snare says different. House songs don't have snares.

Airships over Vanhoover- First, pony hypnosis? If you really want to become a pony then I recommend black magic or voodoo, but I cannot guarantee you will have the best experiences when undergoing the procedures, and thank-god you came out of that shit. I've heard stories about this fandom, but that takes the cake. lol, sorry for that, I just had to say something about that. Anyways, I actually really like this song. The beginning reminds a little bit of the old world tunes and had a really sort of 70s and 80s techno and trance vibe, but then during the riser it came back into contemporary times. I actually really like the vocals in this one, too. The beat is nice and steady, nice melody. I like the small variation in the 2nd break. Lastly, I like what you imagine, that sounds pretty cool. To me, this is the best song so far.

In Search of Prettier Skies- I like this one. It's nice and calming, Can't say I really like the use of bass in this one, and it probably could have gone without the bass and you could have just use some lead synth or lead string, but that doesn't matte much.

The Strings That Hold Me- You're pretty good with strings, I'll give you that, and this seems like a pretty decent track too. The build was pretty good. Not too sure about the vocals during the build though, they sounds unneeded. The drop wasn't my favorite either, but these are just my opinions. The drops don't seem to have all that much similarity, and the bass in the last drop sounds a little too distorted. I need to stress that not all EDM tracks need to have some form of heavy or ripped bass, a simple sub-saw or just sub would do nicely, or just a lighter bass would do. The melody was pretty good too.

Wingbeats- fluttershy's voice in the beginning seemed unnecessary, pretty much throughout the entire song. You have her voice, then you have the CMC talking to Cheerilee about a special somepony, and then fluttershy talks about wonders and stuff, maybe you could have added the CMC's song from the hearts and hooves episode. 1.50 mins to build seems a little too extreme, but I've seen longer. The break also seemed a little out of place, maybe try matching it to the calm opener.

Copy A Friend- The is literally WAY too many chords vocoding the voice in the beginning. I know you spent a long ass time on trying to resynthesize pinkies voice, but is just sounds too screechy. It hurts my ears. Along with the Drop esp. at 2:17, and that sound at 2:18 sounded like to was compressed and RS'd to hell. The drop does not seem to have any order and it's complete chaos. I had no idea what genre it was, and pinkies voice also seemed overly Vocoded and RS'd. and the chords during the second break sounded way too distorted. This is indeed a weird song because I have no idea what it is. Honestly, you should have spent a little more thought into what you were producing in this, weird is good, but this kind of weird is just scary. Pinkies voice literally terrified me now that I think about it.

Deep Breath before the drop- What style of bass are you going for in this? The bass needs a lot of work. most of the bass i'm hearing is either distorted or compressed way too much. The melodies are decent, but just the drops seem very unorganized, and as much as dubstep sounds like chaos, I cannot find any valid reason for the drops in this to even some like a dubstep drop. The lead also has no definition, maybe some chords.

I See Dead Mares- Not really a big fan of this one either, but sounds like some more trap, so, again, I'm not going to say much. If this is not trap, then I suggest you listen to more music of the genre you were utilizing in this track. The kick that fades in and out during the beginning seems pretty unnecessary.

I'm not going to rate this. Why? Because I was not asked to, and also because I can't say much about the trap songs, they are just beyond me.

Overall Analysis and Formal Critique: NOTE: THIS IS GOING TO BE HONEST, YOU DON'T LIKE? THEN DON'T EVEN READ. I'M WARNING YOU, I REALLY AM. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW YOU REACT. THIS IS GIVEN FROM AN INTERMEDIATE EDM BASS PRODUCER'S STAND POINT.
Okay, first of all, You need to work on your bass. If you weren't the one who produced it, tell them they need to work on their bass. Why? Because the bass used in some of these songs does not fill the criterion of Dubstep, Glitch-hop, and electro house. The bass used in most of these is stylized trap music bass. And some of the song structure was way off, especially the Glitch-hop. There was no recognizable Glitch-hop essence or rhythm in any of the songs in this album. There were glitchy moments, but there was no groove, or any sort of funk in the tracks produced. I suggest Listening to more glitch hop music or some old school funk and blues to better understand the Glitch-hop origins and it's evolution. Why? Because knowledge is KEY! I'm not saying anything is bad, music is music, and is judged to the criterion given. The structure for most of these songs was hard to determine. Elements from other genre types were used in a different genre and thus created clashing elements. Most recognizable elements were trap elements. Compressed bass and modulation of held notes and high traces of distortion. Dubstep criterion calls for simple, yet well constructed builds and heavy bass, calm ending. Not many traces of this criterion were found. Bass was heavy, but heavily distorted. Was also having a difficult time distinguishing genre as Dubstep. My suggestion is further analysis and understanding of the Dubstep genre. Electro-house was also hardly noticeable, was noticed, but structure needs work and mixing could use more time. Understanding of these genre is either a novice or basic understanding.

Improvements: Listen to more music or the genres you tried to follow. Work on bass production. I'm not the best at producing bass, but I know enough to determine when it needs work. Mixing and structure of songs, and Bass EQing. The best example of this is the extreme compression and distortion of the bass. Take more time to perfect your music. The problem I have is that I take too much time to perfect a song, so try not to go into my footsteps. Work on your Drops. The drops seem unorganized, esp. on the track "Copy A Friend."

Stuff you're good at: Melodic elements, which I happen to suck ass at. Sound design. The sounds you created were unique enough to qualify as a signature sound. Airships over Vanhoover was the best track in hear, IMHO. The structure was good, it flowed nicely, and the beginning and end were very good. Making decent vocals, which I also suck ass at.
-End Critique-
TL;DR- Overall, I think this is a decent Album. I'm not saying redo everything, but to keep working on your structure and understanding of the genres you listed. Also, The bass design and structure needs some work, too. I have a link to a very good and educated man in the world of bass, watch some of his videos and learn! You still have alot of potential, so don't give up, just hang in there and stay away from the hypnosis!

[Viricide Filly]

let me get back to you on this.. I was expecting like 5 songs.

Edit: Okay, we'll start with Rebirth.

NOTE: I CRITIQUE WORKS HONESTLY AND FORTHCOMINGLY, SO IF YOU DO NOT LIKE HONESTY, THEN DO NOT READ THIS!
TL;DR at the bottem!
Rebirth- Since i'm mainly a bass producer, I tell you about the bass first. Okay, IMO The bass didn't sound all that defined, like it was missing a little of the high-end, and the main bass that plays throughout sounds a little watery near the end of each note. I'm not going to give you an example because my style of bass is probably very different, But I'll give you an example only if you ask for it. Also, the VA isn't top notch, but there is nothing you can do about it, she's better than most I've heard though, so good job on that! . I liked the strings, very nice melody and they sounded pretty good.

Not really much to say here other than "fair enough". The VA could only do either pinkie or fluttershy and flutters wouldn't fit in here.

Naive- Some of the bass in this track sounds like it was distorted to hell like at 1:18. I can see what you were going for, but It really doesn't seem to fit. Also, The flanger seemed like it was a little too overpowering, maybe you can just slowly bring it in to max when you "drop it." And there seemed to be a little too much compression when the chords played, but if you were going for that sort of rave feel, then it's all good. The chords seemed like they could have been picked up in volume a little, too. It sounded like they were just a sub element, when you make any lead chord related music, they need to be a dominant element. Lastly, fluttershy's voice seems a little out of place, esp. when she says "honey." I'm not good with vocals, so i can't give any advice on that. And the kick could use a little more on the highend, electro music usually has a pretty dominant kick in it too, but it's not as bassy as a dubstep kick. Unless this is a dubstep track, because if it is, it is a little too fast.

The vocals were definitely not the main part of the song, considering they were just little snippets from So Many Wonders. And this is definitely not a dubstep track and most definitely an electro house song.

Undermare- I'm going to be honest and say I absolutely hate trap music and I never listen to it, so i'm not going to saying about this at all. But I will say that you have the structure and understanding of what a trap song consists of, so good job on that!

I'm genuinely wondering if you're trolling, since Undermare is a dubstep song in 140 BPM with no 808s or hip hop inspirations whatsoever (everything that defines a trap song) and contains defined bass drops, drums in half time etc (everything that defines a dubstep song). I have never made trap in my life and I never intend on it, despite the fact that I enjoy the genre.

No More Roads To Travel- The bass seemed during the build like it had a little too much chorus. and the voices during :54 sounded extremely strange, I was actually deterred from wanting to listen to more, but the break revived my hopes a little. Basically, the voices sound weird a little in this song, and the melody could use a little more variation. I also got a reel2reel feeling from that melody. what Genre is this? It plays as a house song, but the snare says different. House songs don't have snares.

"house songs don't have snares" I genuinely laughed..

Airships over Vanhoover- First, pony hypnosis? If you really want to become a pony then I recommend black magic or voodoo, but I cannot guarantee you will have the best experiences when undergoing the procedures, and thank-god you came out of that shit. I've heard stories about this fandom, but that takes the cake. lol, sorry for that, I just had to say something about that. Anyways, I actually really like this song. The beginning reminds a little bit of the old world tunes and had a really sort of 70s and 80s techno and trance vibe, but then during the riser it came back into contemporary times. I actually really like the vocals in this one, too. The beat is nice and steady, nice melody. I like the small variation in the 2nd break. Lastly, I like what you imagine, that sounds pretty cool. To me, this is the best song so far.

Say what you want about pony hypnosis, but I will just tell you to stay the fuck away from it. I understand where you'd get techno from but again, I will never make trance.

In Search of Prettier Skies- I like this one. It's nice and calming, Can't say I really like the use of bass in this one, and it probably could have gone without the bass and you could have just use some lead synth or lead string, but that doesn't matte much.

Not much to reply here.

The Strings That Hold Me- You're pretty good with strings, I'll give you that, and this seems like a pretty decent track too. The build was pretty good. Not too sure about the vocals during the build though, they sounds unneeded. The drop wasn't my favorite either, but these are just my opinions. The drops don't seem to have all that much similarity, and the bass in the last drop sounds a little too distorted. I need to stress that not all EDM tracks need to have some form of heavy or ripped bass, a simple sub-saw or just sub would do nicely, or just a lighter bass would do. The melody was pretty good too.

Thanks for the compliment. The pre-drop sample is kind of needed to emphasise the octavia inspiration though. And drops don't have to have similarity y'know, in fact I prefer it if they're not the same. And I doubt electro house tracks, especially the way I do them, would fit just a "simple sub-saw or just a sub"

Wingbeats- fluttershy's voice in the beginning seemed unnecessary, pretty much throughout the entire song. You have her voice, then you have the CMC talking to Cheerilee about a special somepony, and then fluttershy talks about wonders and stuff, maybe you could have added the CMC's song from the hearts and hooves episode. 1.50 mins to build seems a little too extreme, but I've seen longer. The break also seemed a little out of place, maybe try matching it to the calm opener.

The voice in the beginning I'll agree with, but her voice in the hooks does have significance. Do you never feel like you're in a place with so many wonders when you're in love? Love and wonder go hand in hand IMO.

Copy A Friend- The is literally WAY too many chords vocoding the voice in the beginning. I know you spent a long ass time on trying to resynthesize pinkies voice, but is just sounds too screechy. It hurts my ears. Along with the Drop esp. at 2:17, and that sound at 2:18 sounded like to was compressed and RS'd to hell. The drop does not seem to have any order and it's complete chaos. I had no idea what genre it was, and pinkies voice also seemed overly Vocoded and RS'd. and the chords during the second break sounded way too distorted. This is indeed a weird song because I have no idea what it is. Honestly, you should have spent a little more thought into what you were producing in this, weird is good, but this kind of weird is just scary. Pinkies voice literally terrified me now that I think about it.

Pretty sure I only have one vocoded chord sequence in the entire song. The genre I'm not sure of either, but it's hard to agree OR disagree with anything you've said here because honestly, weird was what I was going for and it's not going on youtube or anything. The really synthetic gritty sound was on purpose, so you basically saying you don't like what I did is hard to reply to.

Deep Breath before the drop- What style of bass are you going for in this? The bass needs a lot of work. most of the bass i'm hearing is either distorted or compressed way too much. The melodies are decent, but just the drops seem very unorganized, and as much as dubstep sounds like chaos, I cannot find any valid reason for the drops in this to even some like a dubstep drop. The lead also has no definition, maybe some chords.

This song is glitch hop and the lead is pretty defined IMO.

I See Dead Mares- Not really a big fan of this one either, but sounds like some more trap, so, again, I'm not going to say much. If this is not trap, then I suggest you listen to more music of the genre you were utilizing in this track. The kick that fades in and out during the beginning seems pretty unnecessary.

Did you actually say this was trap? I'm not even going to call you a fucking idiot (wait I just did) but if you can't tell a proper electro house song when it comes up to bite you that's pretty pathetic. Especially considering the bass drops, 128 BPM, the drum arrangements (those fading in/out kicks are part of the intro build-up, I don't care if they're unneccessary, to be honest most stuff that happens in music can be called unnecessary) etc etc. Again, you really actually need to listen to some trap before calling dubstep AND electro house trap. Neither song you claimed was trap had 808s, booming bass, hip hop elements, those kinds of drum and hat arrangements etc. None of it. I will NEVER produce trap and I have NEVER produced trap. It's honestly INSULTING of you to call my house music trap.

I'm not going to rate this. Why? Because I was not asked to, and also because I can't say much about the trap songs, they are just beyond me.

Overall Analysis and Formal Critique: NOTE: THIS IS GOING TO BE HONEST, YOU DON'T LIKE? THEN DON'T EVEN READ. I'M WARNING YOU, I REALLY AM. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW YOU REACT. THIS IS GIVEN FROM AN INTERMEDIATE EDM BASS PRODUCER'S STAND POINT.
Okay, first of all, You need to work on your bass. If you weren't the one who produced it, Fucking seriously? Why wouldn't I have produced my own music. And stop referring to it as "bass" seriously I'm a bass player and that just seems wrong. They're drop sounds and subs and growls and wubs and shit. tell them they need to work on their bass. Why? Because the bass used in some of these songs does not fill the criterion of Dubstep, Glitch-hop, and electro house. I'm not going to take genre specific criticisms from people who think dubstep and electro house is trap. the drop styles and sounds do NOT make a whole genre. The bass used in most of these is stylized trap music bass. Is it fuck. And some of the song structure was way off, especially the Glitch-hop. There was no recognizable Glitch-hop essence or rhythm in any of the songs in this album. There were glitchy moments, but there was no groove, or any sort of funk in the tracks produced. I guess most people were lying then I suggest Listening to more glitch hop music or some old school funk and blues to better understand the Glitch-hop origins and it's evolution. I suggest listening to trap, again. Fuck me. Why? Because knowledge is KEY! I'm not saying anything is bad, music is music, and is judged to the criterion given. The structure for most of these songs was hard to determine. Elements from other genre types were used in a different genre and thus created clashing elements. Most recognizable elements were trap elements. You don't know what trap elements are. Compressed bass and modulation of held notes and high traces of distortion. I'm going to murder babies holy fuck Dubstep criterion calls for simple, yet well constructed builds and heavy bass, calm ending. Does it fuck. Not many traces of this criterion were found. Bass was heavy, but heavily distorted. Yes, just like most EDM. NEWSFUCKINGFLASH. Was also having a difficult time distinguishing genre as Dubstep. My suggestion is further analysis and understanding of the Dubstep genre. Electro-house was also hardly noticeable, was noticed, but structure needs work and mixing could use more time. Understanding of these genre is either a novice or basic understanding. Kid I've been listening and producing house music for years and you're the first person to tell me my house music sounds like trap. Absolutely comedic.

Improvements: Listen to more music or the genres you tried to follow. Work on bass production. I'm not the best at producing bass, but I know enough to determine when it needs work. Mixing and structure of songs, and Bass EQing. The best example of this is the extreme compression and distortion of the bass. Take more time to perfect your music. The problem I have is that I take too much time to perfect a song, so try not to go into my footsteps. Work on your Drops. The drops seem unorganized, esp. on the track "Copy A Friend."

Stuff you're good at: Melodic elements, which I happen to suck ass at. Sound design. The sounds you created were unique enough to qualify as a signature sound. Airships over Vanhoover was the best track in hear, IMHO. The structure was good, it flowed nicely, and the beginning and end were very good. Making decent vocals, which I also suck ass at.
-End Critique-
TL;DR- Overall, I think this is a decent Album. I'm not saying redo everything, but to keep working on your structure and understanding of the genres you listed. Also, The bass design and structure needs some work, too. I have a link to a very good and educated man in the world of bass, watch some of his videos and learn! You still have alot of potential, so don't give up, just hang in there and stay away from the hypnosis!

I added replies in red.

EDIT: To further outline my thoughts of this. Some criticisms were genuine, really, they were. I tried a few new things, some people like it, some don't, that's how it happens.
But some things you've said, I.E. your opinions on what glitch hop, dubstep, electro house and trap are, are honest to god, WRONG. You have a warped sense of what each genre is (I'm assuming because of copious amounts of listening to mainstream music and brony music). So, I'm not going to take those into consideration. At all. Literally. I See Dead Mares VIP being called trap was what made me disregard half your entire post as garbage, because you're basically using warped senses of genres to criticise the music of somebody who studies genres to the extreme, even to the point of adopting slang terms and sub-sub-genres to be extra OCD and picky. That shit genuinely pisses me off. Trap has NO elements of dubstep and electro house. And you have a very, VERY narrow-minded opinion of what "dubstep" is. Your description you gave seems to only apply to a single form of dubstep when in fact there are so many different sub-genres of dubstep it's unbelievable.
Also, "house music doesn't have snares"
I'll let my friend speak for me here.
[01:58:55] This Is Deutsch. (Kurt): HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[01:59:20] This Is Deutsch. (Kurt): HOUSE DOESN'T HAVE SNARES
[01:59:33] This Is Deutsch. (Kurt): I DON'T EVEN PRODUCE AND I KNOW HE'S SPOUTING SHIT
[01:59:35] This Is Deutsch. (Kurt): HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH
[02:00:02] This Is Deutsch. (Kurt): OMFG
[02:00:05] This Is Deutsch. (Kurt): HELP
[02:00:08] This Is Deutsch. (Kurt): I'M DYING
[02:03:17] Squishy: Where is this guy
[02:03:18] Squishy: I wanna slap him
I won't even bother linking you hundreds of house tracks. With snares.

I don't WANT to be mean but I have mixed feelings about your post. It makes me laugh, I agree with some parts, and the rest I just want to fucking break things because of how narrow-minded and opinionated you are with genres. You won't even bother to critique a song because YOU think it's a genre you personally dislike (by the way, disliking an entire genre is bullshit because 9/10 there's a song in it you'll probably like)
I'm not trying to come off like I can't take critique. No. I'm the kind of person who takes critique if it's viable. If I'm given critique based off a misunderstanding, a misconception, an opinionated view, or being told something that is literally wrong (having my music labelled as a genre I refuse to produce, being told electro house doesn't have to have gritty bass drops) then I'll laugh at it and tell them why I think they're wrong.

[S.P.P]

Viri, you're cool and all, but you should take criticism better! The guy makes valid points and you mug him off pretty violently. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong here; just take criticism better..

[Viricide Filly]

Viri, you're cool and all, but you should take criticism better! The guy makes valid points and you mug him off pretty violently. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong here; just take criticism better..

I did say I agree with some parts and I made the edit specifically to try and clear all this up.

[Injustrial]

I'm not taking sides against or for anyone here. But the guy DID spend quite a bit of time listening and reviewing your tracks. He may not be native to the genre you're producing and some statements might be seen as invalid, but he did tell you exactly what he meant and why. [/self righteous preaching]

OK, my feedback: I like some of the tracks, and I dislike others. I'm very fond of Rebirth and Copy A Friend. I think you've made some cool progressions and some very catchy melodies. Since I'm not too familiar with the genre, I'm not in a position to say if this feels genuine or original, but I will say I liked those tracks.

The one track I didn't enjoy as much, is No More Roads to Travel. I feel the samples used were either misplaced, or badly edited. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it might have to do with the pitching. They either feel out of key or out of rhythm (both?) and don't gel as nicely into the overall track as I would have liked.

With that being said, I've just played this album at a party, and noone seemed to mind. Noone got crazy, ripped their shirts off and started dancing, but noone asked me to change the music either. And I guess that's really all we could hope for as indie artists, right?

Keep on trucking!

[Guthey]

Since you rather mock me than just say "okay" and leave it be...I'll be honest...

I didn't know what half of these genres were. The, since bass is inadequate, growls, rips and screeches... they did not sound like anything I've ever heard. I do indeed know what a dubstep song sounds like, but because art (music is art) is subjective, I wasn't able to speak from your standpoint of what Dubstep is. Absolutely no hints what-so-ever of glitch-hop. A defined tempo doesn't determine a glitch-hop song, or any genre for that matter. I could make a glitch-hop at 200 BPM if I wanted to, look at the origins, you can't just make your own sect of Glitch-hop with out it still consisting of the original elements that created the genre in the first place. Electro house does not have grained basses. I Listened to electro-house, listened to House, never have I heard the type of rhythm produced in this album.

I gave you my opinions mostly because half of the album is not what I'M used to, therefore what else was I supposed to do? Use telepathy to get inside your head? I'm terribly sorry for not being able to broaden my mind to these genres, but it's kind of hard when I'm listening to the sect you created. My opinions are not wrong, why can you not accept an opinion, what was your purpose for posting here if you did not want opinions. Again, my sense is not warped around mainstream EDM, but it is not used to your style of EDM. I'm very, very sorry I truly am.

The only reason I'm being rather vicious is because you had the audacity to openly mock me, whilst telling your friends what I said. what did you expect from a subjective standpoint other than opinions? I can't tell you what is art and what isn't. I may be some retard that doesn't seem to know what he is talking about, but I know enough and I've heard enough to understand and know what any of these genres are supposed to sound like, of which some did sound relatively close, but deviated from what is considered said genres. I commend you for creating your own style of music, that is something very hard to do, and I congratulate you. I wish I could say more without being an ass, but I simply can't say any more about this. It's subjective, I told you what I liked and disliked, and that is what you should expect, so i'm terrible sorry I was not able to give a through and detailed analysis for any of these songs that I've listened to.

And must you use such language? I admit that I used a few explicit words, of which I probably should have announced, but, nonetheless I provided what was asked and was rudely denounced by you and your rather blaring accomplices. I spent the time of my day, of which was consisting of some brilliant drawing and calming music. I try to be an active and kind member of this community, but really? As outspoken as some people are about their music, I simply cannot wrap my mind around the reason as to why I was so disgracefully insulted. Because I didn't like your music? Because I gave you some honesty? Because I'm some, and I quote "fucking idiot." Really now? That hurts , made me want to lay down a while, and contemplate my entire life and my meaning, only to find out that I'm an idiot. Well then... I hope you have a good day.

[Injustrial]

Guys, could we please not have a huge fight over egos and specifics here? This is supposed to be about feedback and criticism.

Viricide: You didn't like his criticism of your work. I can understand that, it's hard to have your work critiqued. It hurts. I get that. But chill

Guthey: Viricide didn't take to well to your post. Was it the wording, was it the hairsplitting with the genre tropes? I don't know. How about you let that one slide as well?

[Guthey]

Injustrial: Forgive me.

Viricide: Sorry.

[Viricide Filly]

Honestly I'm just pissed about the genres and stuff. Considering the electro house I've heard all has gritty basses and heavy drops, such as 7 minutes dead, knife party, Deadmau5 and a few other artists on monstercat, and the glitch hop I listen to actually is quite varied (Although the stuff I try to produce is more inspired by artists like Pegboard Nerds), and the dubstep I listen to is also varied from old school to deep dubstep to brostep to riddim to the other modern gritty sounds I find on monstercat, vital, Duploc etc.

(You have to be kidding me still with the "house has no snares" thing though, seriously mate. That was actually kind of genuinely funny..)

[Guthey]

It whatevs. It's all good. I only listened to like two house songs for reference anyways. No hard feelings, just difference in style is all.

[S.P.P]

Pryda snares are the only house snares that matter. ;)

[Freewave]

Just a reminder that dropping a track, let alone an entire album, in this section means your looking for positive but critical feedback. It's not always fun for people to give you criticism of things you didn't expect but that's how it works. It's supposed to be for improving your music. We're not really a place to be reviewing entire albums and this isn't a section for simply promoting your album either. He reviewed your ENTIRE album and you can listen or ignore any advice, its really up to you. Lashing out at reviewers though isn't cool as you get what you asked for. That said it's not always smart to volunteer to be a critic on genres you don't know about. Keep criticism positive and constructive or it can almost come across as trolling for such a reaction.

Looks like things have calmed down so I'm not locking this thread but there was no need for such an interchange when people could have been more mature and professional about this process (especially you Viri). If it bubbles up again I'll lock it.