<pony><original><orchestral> Night

[Callenby]

The last part of my little project!

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Night%20 ... AO6d7foXbg

I'm running out of space on Soundcloud so I'm testing out using Dropbox to host WIPs. Let me know if it works or not.

Specific things:
1. First things first. Did you like it? Does it faithfully convey a feeling of night?
2. The dynamics are a work in progress, I know.
3. What do you think of the violin solo? I still need to fine tune it.

I might post another WIP after getting some feedback. We'll see.

[Conduit]

I'm getting a 403 error whenever I click the link, so you probably shared the one that goes to your account. I think there's a button that generates a public link.

[Callenby]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/07p58gd70n9xu ... 203%29.wav

Does this work?

[FrostShard]

Well apart from the aftermath, which I think might be hundreds of battered and bruised tremolo patches lying in a ditch, I like it.

It feels a bit like a middle ground between worry and hope to me, but it has that suspense and subtlety that makes it feel like a dark moody ambience.

The dynamics work well, but I might just suggest adding a little more texture during the large crescendos, some other underlying instrument, as there are almost these audible gaps in the atmosphere when it gets fairly loud.

The solo violin patch seems to have a little bit of a stutter on the sample repeat, perhaps a little light reverb could sort that out. Besides that, it sounds nice.

I especially like the chord changes at 0:40, 0:57 and 3:20, they have a nice theatre-like flair that really adds to the emotion. Reminds me of a classical opera or something of the likes.

[Callenby]

Well apart from the aftermath, which I think might be hundreds of battered and bruised tremolo patches lying in a ditch, I like it.

You mean the very end? I'm not sure that I'm hearing what you're hearing.

It feels a bit like a middle ground between worry and hope to me, but it has that suspense and subtlety that makes it feel like a dark moody ambience.

Excellent, because that's pretty much exactly what I was going for.

The dynamics work well, but I might just suggest adding a little more texture during the large crescendos, some other underlying instrument, as there are almost these audible gaps in the atmosphere when it gets fairly loud.

Do you have any exact parts in mind? For me, the more specific the better, really.

The solo violin patch seems to have a little bit of a stutter on the sample repeat, perhaps a little light reverb could sort that out. Besides that, it sounds nice.

That's odd because everything is routed to the same reverb instance. I can definitely fiddle (pun intended) with it some more, though.

I especially like the chord changes at 0:40, 0:57 and 3:20, they have a nice theatre-like flair that really adds to the emotion. Reminds me of a classical opera or something of the likes.

Thanks!

[Injustrial]

I have no idea how to formulate myself, so apologies if this sounds superfluous and badly worded.

The first thing that strikes me is that the very beginning of your intro might be a bit too quiet. I appreciate that you're building tension, but the piece might be too quiet before picking up. Just a thought, though. If you like it, keep it like it is.

On the subject of tension, I get this feeling of stress and fear. Not necessarily terror, but a dark, brooding presence. Growing and evolving, always keeping me on my toes. I love that! Emotions as an IV, straight into my brain.

Although I like the minimalist approach, which is both elegant and effective, I think I'm missing something. A contrast, a change-up, a difference. Nothing too jarring, but a little extra, to really make the piece shine on its own. Right now, I have the feeling I'm listening to an incomplete background track.

This is your Tremolo project, isn't it? I think it would be very difficult creating something over what's already done here. It is a very interesting project, but I think I'm starting to understand why people don't usually do entire songs in one keyword. I think it's very cool that you're exploring just how much is possible to achieve with a single style, however. As an experiment, at least. As a full piece to be listened to by "listeners" and not "analysts" I think this has big problems.


But those are my thoughts on the matter. PLEASE do not take me too seriously, as we are oceans away from each other in musical styles and preferences

[Callenby]

The first thing that strikes me is that the very beginning of your intro might be a bit too quiet. I appreciate that you're building tension, but the piece might be too quiet before picking up. Just a thought, though. If you like it, keep it like it is.

Yeah I'm still working on the dynamics. I'll keep that in mind.

On the subject of tension, I get this feeling of stress and fear. Not necessarily terror, but a dark, brooding presence. Growing and evolving, always keeping me on my toes. I love that! Emotions as an IV, straight into my brain.

That's interesting. I'm always trying to work on the exact mood that my music is getting across. Music is a lot more complex than "happy vs sad" so exact feedback is always helpful.

Although I like the minimalist approach, which is both elegant and effective, I think I'm missing something. A contrast, a change-up, a difference. Nothing too jarring, but a little extra, to really make the piece shine on its own. Right now, I have the feeling I'm listening to an incomplete background track.

I guess that's a good thing because this whole project is supposed to be more ambient and less melodic. I intended this to be the sonic equivalent to drifting into sleep before descending into a nightmare.

This is your Tremolo project, isn't it? I think it would be very difficult creating something over what's already done here. It is a very interesting project, but I think I'm starting to understand why people don't usually do entire songs in one keyword. I think it's very cool that you're exploring just how much is possible to achieve with a single style, however. As an experiment, at least. As a full piece to be listened to by "listeners" and not "analysts" I think this has big problems.

Well that's discouraging. I didn't get the sense of "big" problems from your other comments. I disagree in that I think it's entirely possible to compose a piece in just one technique since I've heard music accomplish even more with even stricter limitations (such as a single note, only clapping, etc.). The question, I believe, is whether or not this does the same.

But those are my thoughts on the matter. PLEASE do not take me too seriously, as we are oceans away from each other in musical styles and preferences

Don't worry about it.

[Injustrial]

I actually wrote "big" there. Not intentional, I meant to just go "problems" there, but got carried away. Sorry about that. Please do not get discouraged by my thoughts here, I love your style. It forces me to think and analyze in a completely different way that I'm used to.
I just that personally, I have a feeling that this particular piece "feels" like a school project, rather than a standalone instrumental. Which is confusing for me, since your previous ones didn't.

I'm trying to formulate myself clearer, but having a hard time. If you think we're misunderstanding each other, please say so, since I'm not trying to be harsh down-putting

[FrostShard]

Well apart from the aftermath, which I think might be hundreds of battered and bruised tremolo patches lying in a ditch, I like it.

You mean the very end? I'm not sure that I'm hearing what you're hearing.

...ahaha, sorry. That was a joke about the fact that I thought you overused tremolo juust a little :p

For the crescendos, the three from 1:10 to 1:35 just feel like the same parts getting louder. This works fine, but to achieve an even greater orchestral effect, adding more string parts at the same time would help.

As for the reverb, I would generally use a separate instance for a solo instrument, considering the much greater presence it has, but again, entirely up to you.

[Callenby]

Okay, here's a new WIP.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g9sa066s990aw ... 204%29.wav

It's not radically different but it should (hopefully) address most if not all of the points above. I still firmly believe that using solely tremolo is not just a conceit or student's exercise. Yeah, it's experimental, but so is this whole project.

The mixing could still be smoother but that's always the longest, most boring part of the process for me. I hate mixing.

I have about nine other songs to work on so I'd like to have this finished by tomorrow night.

[FrostShard]

Nice.

It sounds a lot smoother and more refined, and those crescendos work well with a more subtle power.
The mix sounds pretty good as is, yes could be improved, but it would be very subtle anyway.

I think it does feel somewhat experimental overall, but there are enough ideas and themes that work well together to give it a 'complete' feeling.

[Callenby]

Nice.

It sounds a lot smoother and more refined, and those crescendos work well with a more subtle power.
The mix sounds pretty good as is, yes could be improved, but it would be very subtle anyway.

I think it does feel somewhat experimental overall, but there are enough ideas and themes that work well together to give it a 'complete' feeling.

Awesome. That's just what I needed to hear.

I don't think I'll be posting any more WIPs for this. Thank you everyone for your feedback.