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I need some advice on how to make a song EQD would take.

Postby Muzic Whooves » 19 Nov 2013 16:22

EQD has being saying my songs and remixes sound muddy can you guys take a look at this example and tell me what I am doing wrong. I am also using Audacity so how do I make sound less muddy like EQD said.

Here is the link to the track they wanted you guys to help me with.

http://youtu.be/o7e8eyE2di4
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Re: I need some advice on how to make a song EQD would take.

Postby Callenby » 19 Nov 2013 16:47

1. Welcome to MLR! We have an introduction thread for you to tell us a little about yourself.
2. I think you have the wrong idea, honestly. Your goal shouldn't be to make a song EQD would take because there's no reliable way of determining that. Your goal should be to make the best music you can and not really care what EQD thinks. If they accept it great, if not then that's fine too. They're not the arbiters of what makes a good song. It's just one website. If you're wanting to be featured there for exposure, then hopefully the reason you're making music because it's meaningful to you and not because you think it will make you popular.
3. If you're only using Audacity then that may be part of the problem. It's an audio editing program when what you need is a DAW. For what your style seems to be, you might want to look into getting Fruity Loops. That seems to be a popular one.
4. How much theory and experience do you have? I don't want to assume, but it doesn't seem like a whole lot. If that's the case then you have a long journey of learning in front of you, but that's what this forum is for! I recommend not worrying about making music for now and instead learning theory, researching DAWs, asking questions, etc.
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Re: I need some advice on how to make a song EQD would take.

Postby Glitchhog » 19 Nov 2013 17:02

Ex prelistener for EqD here. It depends what you want to get into. Spotlight or MotD? Spotlight's standards are high and your track generally has to be fairly high quality to get into it. MoTD's not so much, but it still needs to be a quality track.

As far as using Audacity goes; don't use it. It's fine for audio editing and messing with sound samples, but I'd advise against using it as a DAW. I recommend FL Studio or Ableton, both are capable of producing complex arrangements and both are used by industry professionals.

It also takes time to develop the skills needed to produce a 'good' track. Spend more time practicing as opposed to trying to get onto EqD. EqD isn't the be-all and end-all of what determines good music anyway. I've gotten more hits on some of my non-pony songs than I ever got through EqD with a pony-related track. Having said that, EqD is a great way to gain more exposure, but honestly, only if you hit spotlight. Either way, don't aim to make something Equestria Daily will post; aim to make something you love and you feel is good. A true artist doesn't write for anyone else.

As far as theory goes, I feel you need a little understanding of the basic concepts, but that's it. There are plenty of artists who don't use theory when writing tracks people love (my mate Edd from AcousticBrony, for example.) Know the basics, use your intuition and instincts to control the rest. That said, there's nothing wrong with learning more and it can only help (unless theory kills your creativity like it does for me, in which case, I dunno. Figure it out.)

SONG STRUCTURE IS IMPORTANT if you write in a popular style of music. If you're into Noir Avant-Garde Jazzcore, then go nuts with the structure. Hell, don't even use one. However, if you're writing the next big pop hit, you might want to read up on proper song structure and how it works both on a practical and on a psychological level.

I think that's about it... in short; make something high quality (good mixing/mastering/arrangement), make something memorable and make something for YOU, not for EqD.
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Re: I need some advice on how to make a song EQD would take.

Postby Freewave » 19 Nov 2013 17:11

It's a nice theory Callenby but being able to make it onto EQD's MOTD at least is kind of the first step to being "good" enough to be heard by the rest of the community. Spotlight quality is MUCH harder. Musicians are going to have be ok with missing the bar when they first start out however. If the musicians in the listening panels have said its muddy EQ'ing then i'll believe them. Taking a brief listen it's definitely some very strange synth work going on in there and its hard to hear exactly what you're doing that's causing that.

I don't know how you are making music in audacity unless you are using 100% loops. Not that you can't use loops but if we can't see your project or even imagine how you are putting them together its going to be hard to troubleshoot. I DO recommend FL studio for a good EDM DAW and looking at a a LOT of youtube tutorials for them and using MLR's archive of tutorials for eq'ing advice and more. Don't use audacity as a DAW.

One thing you need to look at BESIDES production is concept. There's nothing particularly pony at all in that music piece (not even an image for the video) so EQD won't accept that. You have to integrate something from the show AND good enough quality for them to accept it.

You can read these threads to get a better idea of how to do that
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9006
viewtopic.php?t=5814
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2350

Again there is a LOT of work involved with making music (even pony music) so be prepared for a few years to really get the hang of it. Don't aim to get on EQD right away as you need to work on just making decent sounding music first. You also need to enjoy just making music yourself before you focus on pleasing others and that will take understanding what makes quality.
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Re: I need some advice on how to make a song EQD would take.

Postby Muzic Whooves » 19 Nov 2013 17:15

Freewave it is a remix to a pony related song there is also a pony picture in the song so they should accept it.
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Re: I need some advice on how to make a song EQD would take.

Postby Freewave » 19 Nov 2013 17:47

Muzic Whooves wrote:Freewave it is a remix to a pony related song there is also a pony picture in the song so they should accept it.


Well you should always link back to the original track then and i have no idea if that was ever a "pony track" to being with. Again a pony picture (i didn't see one on your video) doesn't show HOW something relates to the show (hence how something can be pino) ;). Just using your oc as art won't cut it. Again I've posted plenty above if you take the time to read. You will want to make good use of youtube's description box in any of your music as that's your place to plead your case.

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Re: I need some advice on how to make a song EQD would take.

Postby S.P.P » 19 Nov 2013 17:48

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Re: I need some advice on how to make a song EQD would take.

Postby Conduit » 21 Nov 2013 13:27

Literally all your doing is speeding up the original song. That's not a remix. I'm going with Pyre's idea that your trolling.
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