Lets organize dubstep!

[Facade]

as many of you know people cannot stop arguing over dubstep

my hypothesis is because people haven't organized it into sub genres and just want their style of the genre to be called dubstep. so the solution is they are all called dubstep! yes that's right no more arguing its all dubstep now!

but how do we distinguish between the different styles? easy! by adding sub-genres to the mother genre of dubstep. now i know a lot of you are going to chew me out for calling brostep brostep for right now but i honestly don't have another name for it(its still dubstep though! don't worry)

so why make a thread to tell us this?
because there's a lot of different styles and one person trying to organize all of them is time consuming and would take a long time plus the more people we have working on it the more accurate we can make the chart / diagram.

this is what i have started for us to build off of again brostep = dubstep i just dont have a name for it yet.

[simonli2575]

Then there's chillstep, which I think is Modern oldschool Dubstep.

[Facade]

thanks! ill update the first post

@kyoga

ill report people's posts if they get too off topic (ie fighting) dont worry

[itroitnyah]

Anyways...

Modern dubstep and old school are the only two that we really need, but then we have chillstep, as mentioned by simonli, but if you want a few of the other genres of dubstep that are pretty much never actually used or heard of, we have:

Lumpstep
Gangsterstep
drugstep
psychostep
acidstep

And those are the only ones that I can really think of. I think anything beyond modern, old school and chill are just silly little titles that serve no purpose.

[Facade]

Is chillstep the same ting as liquid dubstep?

I guess complextro can be seen as a branch off brostep?

Drumstep would fit somewhere here too, I imagine.

aah thats the name i couldnt think of thank you!

not sure if drumstep should be off of complextro or the mother genre dubstep

[simonli2575]

Drumstep would fit somewhere here too, I imagine.

I personally consider Drumstep a sub-genre of Drum 'n' Bass, so I don't think it would fit anywhere here.

[Facade]

nah. Drumstep is a fusion between brostep and drum n bass as far as Im aware. Complextro is of electro, brostep and whatever the fuck the artist feels like.

ill put it under complextro then

[itroitnyah]

Dubstep and Drum and Bass are so closely related i can't even tell the difference between the two. As far as I'm concerned, DnB is like dubstep, but more of an all around, faster bass. Anybody want to clear this up for me? Because we could otherwise add DnB as another main genre catergory and then have drumstep branching off of both dnb and complextro

[Facade]

dnb has a higher bpm rate and a signature kick snare pattern

[cplbradley]

Complextro isn't part of dubstep. it's part of house. it's complex electro. as in electro house.

[the4thImpulse]

Complextro isn't part of dubstep. it's part of house. it's complex electro. as in electro house.

Yes, complextro is as far from dubstep (the brostep variant) as Drum and Bass is from dubstep. It comes from the House line of sub-genres.

[Facade]

my bad! though what should we call "brostep" ill just stick it with modern dubstep for now

[the4thImpulse]

my bad! though what should we call "brostep" ill just stick it with modern dubstep for now

Honestly I've never understood why the term "brostep" is so bad? Most everyone seems to understand the term. But modern dubstep seems to be the best fitting as the genre didn't really change much at a core level, it still still resembles older dubstep so I think the modern title works fine.

[Facade]

my bad! though what should we call "brostep" ill just stick it with modern dubstep for now

Honestly I've never understood why the term "brostep" is so bad? Most everyone seems to understand the term. But modern dubstep seems to be the best fitting as the genre didn't really change much at a core level, it still still resembles older dubstep so I think the modern title works fine.

i guess people get offended by it cause the term was used derogatorily at first.

[cplbradley]

I hate the term brostep because it's bro and dubstep. as i've said before, genres change, but they're still the same genre.

[Conduit]

Dubstep and Drum and Bass are so closely related i can't even tell the difference between the two. As far as I'm concerned, DnB is like dubstep, but more of an all around, faster bass. Anybody want to clear this up for me? Because we could otherwise add DnB as another main genre catergory and then have drumstep branching off of both dnb and complextro

Listen to pendulum, then knife party and you'll see the difference between dnb and dubstep. I honestly don't see how they could be confused, dnb rarely if ever has occilating basses or the growls that define modern dubstep. They're also in completely different tempos.

[Freewave]

For dubstep sub genres you have
Ukstep (old school dubstep)
Brostep
Purple sound
Wonky
Post dubstep
Chillstep
Future garage
Drumstep

All I can think of right now

[Motivfs]

Listen to pendulum, then knife party and you'll see the difference between dnb and dubstep. I honestly don't see how they could be confused, dnb rarely if ever has occilating basses or the growls that define modern dubstep. They're also in completely different tempos.

Drum & Bass does use growls every now and then as well as modulated/oscillating basses, but that could be said for any EDM-based genre. It wouldn't matter if people did use growls and modulated basses, it would still be Drum & Bass, and would still not relate to Dubstep. People are not restricted to hold to some sort of imaginary boundaries to a genre just because someone will eventually come and say that it's related to Dubstep when it isn't.

Of course, there are certain elements that over time, have made a genre what it is, such with DnB is breaks, reeses, 170-180BPM and the almighty Kick-snare pattern. Still, as I said, I can add wubs and should not get criticized for doing so in DnB just because I went "out of the norm", which quite honestly, isn't.

[Motivfs]

Also, I don't consider Drumstep a sub-genre of Dubstep, it's a sub-genre of Drum & Bass from my stance, but that could differ with each person I guess.

[Conduit]

Listen to pendulum, then knife party and you'll see the difference between dnb and dubstep. I honestly don't see how they could be confused, dnb rarely if ever has occilating basses or the growls that define modern dubstep. They're also in completely different tempos.

Drum & Bass does use growls every now and then as well as modulated/oscillating basses, but that could be said for any EDM-based genre. It wouldn't matter if people did use growls and modulated basses, it would still be Drum & Bass, and would still not relate to Dubstep. People are not restricted to hold to some sort of imaginary boundaries to a genre just because someone will eventually come and say that it's related to Dubstep when it isn't.

Of course, there are certain elements that over time, have made a genre what it is, such with DnB is breaks, reeses, 170-180BPM and the almighty Kick-snare pattern. Still, as I said, I can add wubs and should not get criticized for doing so in DnB just because I went "out of the norm", which quite honestly, isn't.

Fair enough, I was talking more generally. Of course people will break borders, and bring influence from other genres, but the generic "drum and bass sound" isn't at all like dubstep.

[Motivfs]

Fair enough, I was talking more generally. Of course people will break borders, and bring influence from other genres, but the generic "drum and bass sound" isn't at all like dubstep.

I can agree on that.

[Facade]

For dubstep sub genres you have
Ukstep (old school dubstep)
Brostep
Purple sound
Wonky
Post dubstep
Chillstep
Future garage
Drumstep

All I can think of right now

thanks for the input! any idea on where these fall in the tree?

[simonli2575]

Dubstep and Drum and Bass are so closely related i can't even tell the difference between the two. As far as I'm concerned, DnB is like dubstep, but more of an all around, faster bass. Anybody want to clear this up for me? Because we could otherwise add DnB as another main genre catergory and then have drumstep branching off of both dnb and complextro

What? Really? REALLY?

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

Dubstep and Drum and Bass are so closely related i can't even tell the difference between the two. As far as I'm concerned, DnB is like dubstep, but more of an all around, faster bass. Anybody want to clear this up for me? Because we could otherwise add DnB as another main genre catergory and then have drumstep branching off of both dnb and complextro

What? Really? REALLY?

I think Itroit isn't listening to enough dnb here.

[itroitnyah]

Yeah, I don't listen to enough. 11+ hours of dubstep on my computer that were all free downloads, not a single dnb song.