Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

[Nexaka]

Here's mine, some feedback really would be awesome x3.

[GCKrastin]

This might have already been asked, but will there be a teaser round for this? I'm guessing not because of how close the deadline is and because people seem to be posting full songs, but idk.

Here's what I've got so far (took me ~10 hours), it's mostly done but I'll probably change it a bit before the deadline.
(Not entirely sure unlisted videos will work in embeds, so it's a link)
Link

Tear it up, I need some good criticism on it. (And yes I know it's repetitive, I'm working on that)

[DA MAGICS °-°]

But if that's the case, will Circuit put it on the Balloon Party bandcamp?

Probably not.

Another good question would be whether it'd do the album any good if it just sat there between two other R&R albums, with no selling point except for a watered down version of the original 'fast and stylish' concept.
Being first and foremost a listener and collector of music, I think not.
I think it's up to the community now to come up with a slightly different concept that still fits a lot of the rejected entries.
It'd also be braver and more honest to do so: your stuff DID get rejected, probably for good reasons, now go and try something else with it.
I have an idea that I might post in this subforum later, but I might as well just try and contact the people I think might be interested, without making it an event.
Gotta make up my mind on this.
edit: will do both.

[TheAnonymousColt]

2 weeks really isn't enough time to make something completely new, so I'm out

[ScathedNight]

I'm confused right now, so we can't submit our rejected R&R tracks, but we CAN remix them, right?

[MrBronyPlan]

I'm confused right now, so we can't submit our rejected R&R tracks, but we CAN remix them, right?

I think you can submit the rejected ones

[Nine Volt]

I'm confused right now, so we can't submit our rejected R&R tracks, but we CAN remix them, right?

I think you can submit the rejected ones

No, you can't submit the rejected ones. Says in the OP they will be rejected.

[LDY]

Ick, we can't resubmit our Rejected pieces? Well foooey. I don't think I could remix it well enough.... thouugh this might give me a chance to finish a project I've not worked on in forever. Hopefully I can finish that for this! a little less than 2 weeks though, that may be my greatest downfall. >w>

[MrBronyPlan]

I'm confused right now, so we can't submit our rejected R&R tracks, but we CAN remix them, right?

I think you can submit the rejected ones

No, you can't submit the rejected ones. Says in the OP they will be rejected.

I read it 2 days ago. That wasn't there.

[Nine Volt]

Well now it is. And you didn't post that 2 days ago, so why bother telling me?
I'm not saying you should've known, I'm just saying that it's there.

[AJ_]

Change the name
R&R: Final Stand

Think about it

the original was R&R: Fours on the floor

Final Stand symbolizes "After Party" or "One Last Shot"

[Jokeblue]

I think the name "Jam Session" suits what they're going for a little more now.

[Freewave]

Someone talk to Cfry plkz and iron this shit out. It shouldn't be this hard to have a plan but asking for a new track in 12 days is ridiculous and defeats the work that people made prior. If Cfry won't publish anything from the reject pile under Balloon Party bandcamp that's unfortunate as there should have been stuff that still was still "good" and is just sitting there. You all really should run this independently if that's the case as you'll still have musician support and plenty of tracks rather than this current idea. This could be just another Remix Wars 6 if you wing it w/o listening to people's objections.

[CommandSpry]

I thought this was like for the people who want to improve their already made R&R entries, for which 2 weeks is enough, not to make a completely new tune

for example I didn't finish my thing in time but I can finish it in 12 days no problem

[Alycs]

No, Circuitfry has said multiple times on his tumblr that you can't either remix or polish up your original submission. You have to make something new.

Toastbeard powers go!

[Nine Volt]

That's... incredibly stupid, actually. Oh well, gives me another song to release.

[Genkar]

I don't know why people are bashing Circuitfry and getting all mad.

I mean, yes, it's spontaneous. Yes, it was kind of unclear on the directions, but that's all sorted out now, so I don't know why people are still complaining or confused about it. (Protip: READ THE OP)

I for one am fine with the fact that you can't resubmit entries that were rejected, because that would kill the point of making a new track. If everyone just resubmitted their rejected entries, it would be an album full of tracks that already have months of work put into them, ruining the initial point to this follow-up album. Yeah, it kinda sucks for the people who spent a ton of time on their tracks, but not everyone could've gotten onto the original album. That should be obvious.

To my understanding, the goal here was to make something new, quickly, in order to prove a point, like eery said. Fry's not trying to be a dick, he's trying to make clear the fact that there is more to a song than mixing. And it's completely possible to make a well done song in 2 weeks (for most of us at least, I know there are people who have incredibly busy and random schedules).

So for those people who want to participate, the information has been sorted out, you can get started.

For those people who don't want to participate, you can do that without complaining. So stahp.

[Nine Volt]

For those people who don't want to participate, you can do that without complaining. So stahp.

However, we are not living in a dictatorship and so we are also allowed to state our opinions that this is a stupid idea. So stahp tryin' to suppress us, maaaaan.

[Genkar]

For those people who don't want to participate, you can do that without complaining. So stahp.

However, we are not living in a dictatorship and so we are also allowed to state our opinions that this is a stupid idea. So stahp tryin' to suppress us, maaaaan.

Not trying to like, get rid of all negative responses to the album. Kinda trying to say that just posting a bunch of negative responses in this thread won't get anyone anywhere.

[Nine Volt]

There's like, 7 negative responses in 173 posts, so...

[Genkar]

There's like, 7 negative responses in 173 posts, so...

Yeah, kind of exaggerated a bit there. My bad.

[Nine Volt]

There's like, 7 negative responses in 173 posts, so...

Yeah, kind of exaggerated a bit there. My bad.

It's OK

Everybody makes mistakes
Everybody has those days...

[Circuitfry]

Yo I'm here and I'm gonna clear shit up.

Okay Y'all remember After Party? I remember that, but vaguely, I think I gave the okay to have it go ahead with some reluctance, didn't seem fair to give those entries extra time. I certainly didn't realize Aviators was going to put the After Party album on Bandcamp but he did, and he used Omnipony's non-edited version of Desert Walker as the very first song, lemme just say I was pretty pissed about that, ok? Because not only was it a badly mastered song but he continuously rejected constructive criticism and threw his popularity around about it. The dude was being immature and didn't deserve to be on the bandcamp, and honestly now I'm afraid that he never learned his lesson.

He almost did, for a minute, telling his fans outright that it was a bad master, a perfect 180 in the right direction until OOPS thanks Aviators for backpedalling the entire point, I mean everything about that decision was publicly explained and he never fixed it so you basically slapped the song on there without really thinking about the implications of it, so yeah thanks Aviators, that's really fair to everyone else!

Naw guys, I'm not doing it again like that, it's seriously not fair to the other musicians who DID make an accepted song in time. Aoshi kinda fudged the VIP-of-your-own-song bit but honestly I'm alright with that, it's at least partially a new song at that point. Good call, Aoshi, like really, I'm for it, too, sure!

So yeah indeed this album is a more aggressive reiteration of Four's Fall Down's controversial claim. The album is a statement that good music doesn't necessarily package itself in professional grade mixing, that it's about making good music however you approach it. Four's Fall Down is an accidental parallel to the Find a Pet episode of ponies, where Rainbow Dash walks in wanting the Falcons of the pets, but ends up choosing the Tanks while she's at it. Rainbow & Rooted is rooted in the principles of music, where songs with certain astounding qualities are selected and mixing is not made a mandatory requirement for entry. That way, we have an album full of rich variety and interesting new tastes to broaden listeners to.

The responses were mixed as a result of the rich variety, and a lot of people will argue that Four's Fall Down is in fact superior to Balloon Party. A poisonous attitude has permeated the music scene, especially in the EDM community, that good mixing is the most vital aspect of music. We know this is clearly not true, as you've probably heard in 70s and 60s music having unprofessional self-produced mixdowns but rich and powerful content. The albums are meant to be personifications of the ponies, so Rainbow Dash would likely have this perspective of music, she'd be loyal to the nature of music. Pinkie Pie on the other hand would run with the popular opinion that club bangers and fun/cool/going-hard near-professional sounding tracks are the best way to go. Likewise, it will change again, next time, to being Twilight's textbook-intensive opinion.

The "After Party" album is a last chance to prove yourself by making something powerful and make a statement that rebels against the elitist mentality in a mixing-centric community. Mixing is important, but it's not everything. Some songs sound best with their own mixdowns. That's why Rainbow & Rooted has such variety in its RMSes and EQ settings etc etc. "One Last Shot" is an attitude-saturated attempt to bash the mentality with rebellion. It is NOT a Rainbow & Vomit clone. R&V is about being offensive and loud, One Last Shot is making a statement about the integrity of music.

Make a new song or make a new version of your submission to have tons of attitude. Mix it how YOU like it.

[Gray Ham]

Thanks for clearing that up, Circuit. :3

Anyway, I just got inspired, but I recommend extending the deadline by a bit, now that no-one can just submit their rejected tracks anymore.

[NamelessWarning]

Since I never made a song for the original R&R, maybe I could stir something up for this. I never rounded up my inspiration for the other one, thought it ONLY had to be drum and bass. After hearing the many entries on R&R, I think I may have a fair shot for this one.

Eh, we'll see what happens haha.