<Non-pony> <Original> White Wine

[Brick Stonewood]

https://soundcloud.com/brick-stonewood/white-wine
I feel like the biggest shortcoming involved with the production of this one is the fact that I tried to sing it myself. I did show it to a few people before I uploaded it, but I can always use more feedback if anyone is willing to give it. There are still only a small amount of places I can turn to for it.

[randomblockfilms]

hmmmmm well i can tell you this from my experiences. vocals are hard. and they are very hard to get the sound right.

so i will tell you right of the bat, yeah dem vocals need some work. :P but dont take offense to it. plz?? because as for myself i cant listen to my own voice unless there is some heavy vocoder effects on it. lol

i dont know a whole lot about actual singing but i can tell you some things about effects. compressors are your friends. not too much but enough to make it sound consistent and not all over the place. and also chorus effects can make it sound really cool. like right now it sounds very mono, (vocals at least) and with a chorus effect, it will sound like there are more people singin with you. :D but sometimes it can sound really weird if you change the paramiters all crazy like :P

[itroitnyah]

The vocals are really hard to hear and sound rather cheesy. The clashes and guitar are drowning the vocals out. The pluck thing that starts after you say "one two three four" and the synth from the start don't go with the guitar and bass-y sounds you have going on. Moreover, the guitar melody does not match and vocal tone that's going on. You also sound very grungy, and you're really out of tune. Might want to practice singing with a smoother voice, and singing more in tune. A good practice is to sing songs you already know and like. The piano at the end of the first "drop" is really out of tune. There's no apparent structure, it just sounds a lot like noise. The one sci-fi sounding arp is also really out of place. To sum it all up, the instruments don't match the tone that the song is supposed to be, there's no structure, the vocals are drowning, and the song really needs a lot of mixing.

[Brick Stonewood]

hmmmmm well i can tell you this from my experiences. vocals are hard. and they are very hard to get the sound right.

so i will tell you right of the bat, yeah dem vocals need some work. but dont take offense to it. plz?? because as for myself i cant listen to my own voice unless there is some heavy vocoder effects on it. lol

i dont know a whole lot about actual singing but i can tell you some things about effects. compressors are your friends. not too much but enough to make it sound consistent and not all over the place. and also chorus effects can make it sound really cool. like right now it sounds very mono, (vocals at least) and with a chorus effect, it will sound like there are more people singin with you. but sometimes it can sound really weird if you change the paramiters all crazy like

Hey, thanks a lot for the feedback. I'll definitely have to take that into account for next time, yeah. I didn't really think about it at the time, but I was sitting down when I recorded this, and I could probably make it sound at least a little better just by standing up, which I really should have thought of to begin with, but yeah, I definitely should have tried a little harder to find appropriate effects to use for this one, in retrospect, so thanks for pointing that out. And really, thanks for the opinion as well. If nothing else, it's good to know if I'm on the right track as far as how to make it sound better.

The vocals are really hard to hear and sound rather cheesy. The clashes and guitar are drowning the vocals out. The pluck thing that starts after you say "one two three four" and the synth from the start don't go with the guitar and bass-y sounds you have going on. Moreover, the guitar melody does not match and vocal tone that's going on. You also sound very grungy, and you're really out of tune. Might want to practice singing with a smoother voice, and singing more in tune. A good practice is to sing songs you already know and like. The piano at the end of the first "drop" is really out of tune. There's no apparent structure, it just sounds a lot like noise. The one sci-fi sounding arp is also really out of place. To sum it all up, the instruments don't match the tone that the song is supposed to be, there's no structure, the vocals are drowning, and the song really needs a lot of mixing.

Again, thanks a whole lot for taking the time to look through this and pick out what I need to fix with it, first and foremost. Now, I will say that I never really intended this particular track to have a consistent tone between the verses and the chorus, so that bit, at the very least, is somewhat intentional. Now, granted, that was probably kind of ambitious of me to try for this at all, given the fact that I still know next to nothing about how to actually do everything I'm attempting to do with this one, so if what I'm going for is not obvious, I'm sure it's not obvious because it wasn't executed properly on my part. I probably should have made it more of a juxtaposition between the two, in fact. And, you know, using better vocal effects would have certainly helped with that as well. The chorus was supposed to sound pretty grungy, and I was going for more of an electro-pop vibe with the verses, I guess, which I think is really the part where I failed to come through the way I had hoped to initially. Regardless, I do think you hit on a few points that I hadn't really considered otherwise, so I'm not trying to sound argumentative or ungrateful at all, and I really do sincerely appreciate the feedback.

[vaceslav]

Oh god the memories. This sounds eerily similar to the first few songs I wrote.

The other have already pointed out that your voice needs work. This is true. If you're serious about improving your vocals, you need to be doing scales. Something like this, for at least half an hour a day.

Now..

I think where this track falls apart for me is the lack of a proper drum beat; the chorus is just all fills. Having a good understanding of actual drum theory is essential to making this kinda of music. Look up some drum pattern tutorials designed for people with physical drum kits.

I'm not sure what other advice I could give you for this song specifically, as at the moment, as itroitnyah has pointed out, it's just kinda noise.

I can kinda see where you're going for with this, I think, but it's not there yet.