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<Non-Pony><Original><Wip><Electro>- So Quaint

Postby Guthey » 26 Jan 2014 13:51

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Any feedback what-so-ever? I kind of feel like something is missing, or maybe it's me being to critical. This is just the "drop" point, which i'm still kind of new to, so if anyone would give feedback on how it is structured, or if it sounds like i'm missing something that would be great. And the usual harsh criticism is welcome, too.

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Re: <Non-Pony><Original><Wip><Electro>- So Quaint

Postby Twy » 26 Jan 2014 19:01

Ah, I think I see what you're going for. I'd agree, there's definitely something missing, like the glue that holds it all together to make it sound like one solid song instead of snippets of different ones. I'm sorry, though; to be honest the few times I've tried that style I've always failed really bad, so I can't be of any help I don't think. Maybe try and have all of the sounds fill up roughly the same amount of frequency spectrum? I-I don't know. When people do this sort of thing I think they tend to have the growl basses be more of a mid range hiss thing, maybe try that...?

I hope you figure it out, though. Best of luck to you.
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Re: <Non-Pony><Original><Wip><Electro>- So Quaint

Postby Guthey » 26 Jan 2014 20:40

Twy wrote:Ah, I think I see what you're going for. I'd agree, there's definitely something missing, like the glue that holds it all together to make it sound like one solid song instead of snippets of different ones. I'm sorry, though; to be honest the few times I've tried that style I've always failed really bad, so I can't be of any help I don't think. Maybe try and have all of the sounds fill up roughly the same amount of frequency spectrum? I-I don't know. When people do this sort of thing I think they tend to have the growl basses be more of a mid range hiss thing, maybe try that...?

I hope you figure it out, though. Best of luck to you.


Any advice on how you failed exactly, any tips on what you tried to do to fix it, or somehow make it "whole?"
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Re: <Non-Pony><Original><Wip><Electro>- So Quaint

Postby Twy » 26 Jan 2014 21:46

I'm sorry, but I don't. When I tried it I mostly just messed around with different sounds, eqing everything differently and compressing everything together to try and get them to gel. You're already like leagues ahead of me on sound design, I doubt I could be of assistance. I really don't know how people manage to use completely different sounds cutting in and out from each other while still carrying so much energy and fluidity. Doesn't Madeon make tracks with that sort of thing, though? And I think I've heard some Skrillex songs like that, too. Maybe listening to other tracks could help?

I dunno. I might mess around with it, though I doubt I'll figure anything out.
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Re: <Non-Pony><Original><Wip><Electro>- So Quaint

Postby TheUncrativePony » 26 Jan 2014 23:02

sick ideas, but to get what youre looking for, less LPF, needs some high end, also if its a drop part and you're trying to add that extra punch, id suggest adding a more solid kick/snare/clap pattern where the sounds change, it adds to energy (sidechain and compress appropriately), also using the white noise trick to fill frequency space during some of the sounds usually helps. (basically using a really quiet white noise around the ends of the spectrum you feel are lacking, imo its the highs in this bit)
thats the best i could suggest
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Postby TheUncrativePony » 26 Jan 2014 23:06

also a quick tip for people looking to get really gritty sound design: make a sound with little to no high end by nature (sine/triangle/maybe square based) and make it hit around -10db to -6db (assuming you're going to hit the sounds max at 0db then mix down after for mastering purposes) then use an overdrive/distortion plugin and play around with the upper frequencies, drive, and dry/wet, then adjust either the overdrive or the synth itself to get back to 0db, maybe use a limiter or compressor for taste purposes, i dunno, i usually get some crazy interesting results from that. Hopefully any of that helped
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Re: <Non-Pony><Original><Wip><Electro>- So Quaint

Postby Guthey » 26 Jan 2014 23:08

Twy wrote:I'm sorry, but I don't. When I tried it I mostly just messed around with different sounds, eqing everything differently and compressing everything together to try and get them to gel. You're already like leagues ahead of me on sound design, I doubt I could be of assistance. I really don't know how people manage to use completely different sounds cutting in and out from each other while still carrying so much energy and fluidity. Doesn't Madeon make tracks with that sort of thing, though? And I think I've heard some Skrillex songs like that, too. Maybe listening to other tracks could help?

I dunno. I might mess around with it, though I doubt I'll figure anything out.


Well, thanks for the advice anyways, this certainly is hard when trying to put the pieces together.

And, Like I said before, I'm always willing to share my knowledge in sound design, just PM me and I'll tell you how I made everything.
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Re: <Non-Pony><Original><Wip><Electro>- So Quaint

Postby Guthey » 26 Jan 2014 23:14

TheUncrativePony wrote:sick ideas, but to get what youre looking for, less LPF, needs some high end, also if its a drop part and you're trying to add that extra punch, id suggest adding a more solid kick/snare/clap pattern where the sounds change, it adds to energy (sidechain and compress appropriately), also using the white noise trick to fill frequency space during some of the sounds usually helps. (basically using a really quiet white noise around the ends of the spectrum you feel are lacking, imo its the highs in this bit)
thats the best i could suggest


Thanks a bunch, I will certainly try those ideas and tips, I've already added to the track and I think it's getting somewhere now, Just needed to rearrange some things and add to the 2000+ hertz range, and I think that white noise will do just the trick, thanks again! Good luck on your projects, too!
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