[Pony] [Original] [Orchestral] Tragedy of Hieyuma

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[Pony] [Original] [Orchestral] Tragedy of Hieyuma

Postby Conduit » 22 Sep 2012 14:26

This was originally for last weeks toastbeard theme: ponies in trench warfare, but I didn't fully finish it up until now.

Feedback is extremely welcome. I'm not really happy with the track, but I don't know what I should change.

I specifically want some feedback on a few points:
-Does the pizzicato build starting at 1:15 fit?
-Do the transitions need work, and what could I do to improve them?
-How can I include woodwinds without ruining the mood of the track? They always seem to air-y when I include them.

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Re: [Pony] [Original] [Orchestral] Tragedy of Hieyuma

Postby Dr_Dissonance » 22 Sep 2012 20:58

Are you aware you used the same opening 3 notes as 'Also Sprach Zarathustra'?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLuW-GBaJ8k
Rather than getting into the iffy side of 'musical borrowing', I suggest emulating it, instead of taking it. It's surprising how 3 notes can make all the difference!

Anyway, your requested feedback:
The pizz. kind of works. It would work better if it was a big pizz chord through the whole string section I reckon. Or maybe because the cellos seem to be already doing something, just from the viola upwards.

The transitions sound fine, but mainly because the actual sections sound quite similar to each other. Which means it works!

If you want to include woodwinds, I'd suggest runs. Really quick passages to add tension in the latter half of the piece. Double the flutes with the violins when they take the melody. In the little ostinato which starts at 1.52, add a bassoon adding accompaniment underneath with the same rhythm.

There's some suggestions!

For other feeedback:
Some of the brass need a bit more attack. They sound pretty good, but they also sound like how the strings work in terms of adsr (attack, decay, sustain, release). Brass tend to be a bit more parpy. Even in the quiet registers, there is an ever-so-slight parp quality to it. Some of your brass don't seem to have this, so maybe raise the attack up slightly.
I think the more exciting section starting at 1.52 would work well if some brass staccato was layered over it as it developed. When it gets to about 2.40, it feels more anticlimactic, instead of a big climax.

Quite nice overall though. I think those pointers will turn it into something great!
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Re: [Pony] [Original] [Orchestral] Tragedy of Hieyuma

Postby Conduit » 29 Sep 2012 16:25

Heres the final version, I didn't get around to some of the points that you advised, but your critique was still amazingly helpful.

I still feel like this could have been better, but I'm tired of working on it, so here it is.

https://soundcloud.com/flatflish/a-warm-past

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