What is wrong with this track

[soultensionbenjamin]

http://soundcloud.com/soultensionbenjamin/sample-demo

[senntenial]

Neat idea, but it needs expansion! Just arps won't cut it, you need a melody, transitions, and the like. Now I have no clue about music theory, I just listen for stuff, so I'm no good there, but your song also needs a structure. Just like songs have a chorus and a bridge and the like.
Anyway, I would start out by adding a melody to the song, and then transitioning to another musical concept, then adding intros and outros and the like.
the dun dun dun was pretty funny hehe

[soultensionbenjamin]

got any tips on transitions

or making melodies

[Matthew N.]

Maybe my WIP will give you an idea on transitions:

http://soundcloud.com/matthew-n/becoming-popular-wip-full


Besides, a few cents (and yes, I do remember you're new to this):
- As piedoom said, songs need a structure - just like a book. An introduction, build-up, climax, fall-off and outro. Your one seems to have a weird mix of build-up and climax.
- Another thing: lot's of noise; too many melodies at the same time.
- Your kick is too light, and a single drum instrument doesn't make a song complete.
- Also, one thing that might be difficult for you: work on your own synth sounds. I know some of the presets are good, but they are overused. If you don't want to start from scratch, then play around with the said presets.

I won't go into mastering as the song in this stage, hopefully, is incomplete and a WIP.

[senntenial]

Mathhew has a good example, being progressive trance the transitions are pretty obvious and the song isnt annoyingly complex. Basically a song starts out vauge, gets into a main part, and slowly outros out again.
As for melodies, someone with music theory might come in handy. Or you can try what I do, and just play random notes on the piano until you get something neat.

[Ed Viper]

*Looks at thread title* "What is wrong with this track"

THAT is what's wrong with your track. I don't know if you watched that ill.Gates video that was posted in the Technique section, but thinking something is wrong with your track is why it's not as good as it could be. Nothing can bring a music session to a grinding halt faster than if you think you made a mistake.

Point is - it's music. There's really no wrong move with it. Sure, there are things you can do that aren't fundamentally sound, and some things don't sound good, but nothing is "wrong".

Music is similar to science - every time you don't get what you want, it's not a mistake, it's simply a step closer to the desired result.

As for the song itself, it sounds good - just keep working on it and you'll get there.

(I feel a little hypocritical, considering people were giving ME that advice just a month ago...)

[soultensionbenjamin]

okay so what should i study music theory how to build up a song any sources that could help me how to use automation clips


ps Mathew n why you no rich and famous

[Matthew N.]

okay so what should i study music theory how to build up a song any sources that could help me how to use automation clips


ps Mathew n why you no rich and famous

Because I'm an amateur and treat producing as a hobby. My real life goals are nowhere near music production.

[BronyTuber]

Feel free to add me on skype, I may be able to shine some light on some basic music theory and writing some decent melodies if you're interested.

Or, message me through the forums if you don't have skype

[Matthew N.]

Feel free to add me on skype, I may be able to shine some light on some basic music theory and writing some decent melodies if you're interested.

May I just say that yes, music theory can be taught, but you should not step onto someone's creativity with "some decent melodies."

Melodies are not to be learned - they are supposed to come out of nowhere; the so-called "inspiration." Even when you're trying to remix a song which was vocals-based (like most of us on MLR do), you usually don't want to stick to the original melody pattern and instead create something unique. Right, here music theory can help, e.g. with keys, chords etc., but the rest should be up to the artist him/herself.

[BronyTuber]

Feel free to add me on skype, I may be able to shine some light on some basic music theory and writing some decent melodies if you're interested.

May I just say that yes, music theory can be taught, but you should not step onto someone's creativity with "some decent melodies."

Melodies are not to be learned - they are supposed to come out of nowhere; the so-called "inspiration." Even when you're trying to remix a song which was vocals-based (like most of us on MLR do), you usually don't want to stick to the original melody pattern and instead create something unique. Right, here music theory can help, e.g. with keys, chords etc., but the rest should be up to the artist him/herself.

Erm that's more along the lines of what I meant, not trying to step on anyone's creativity at all. More or less I was offering to help out with basic music theory like chords and whatnot. Reading it again I did word it very poorly, I apologize its rather early in the morning here and I'm pretty tired.

*Edit: Figured I would try to extend my hand at helping out around here for once, I didn't mean to imply I would ruin the creative process making the track. :T

[Matthew N.]

I understand that, no worries.

[Ed Viper]

Feel free to add me on skype, I may be able to shine some light on some basic music theory and writing some decent melodies if you're interested.

Or, message me through the forums if you don't have skype

There is a skype name sharing thread in the "Sharing is Magic" board. Add as many of us as you can, just to make sure you have as many sources foe help as possible.