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<pony><my first remix>This Day Aria remix

Postby itroitnyah » 28 Apr 2012 20:11

http://soundcloud.com/itroitnyah/this-day-aria-remix

Yes, this is my first remix.

Alright, so I took about 8 hours on this, and I know it is not the very best in the world. I also know that it is not the first one. So, feel free to listen and tell me what you think. I already know I need to get better software, so you don't need to tell me that. Just suggestions >.>
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Re: <pony><my first remix>This Day Aria remix

Postby CGEyeGuy » 28 Apr 2012 21:23

I like LMMS, its a good program but the UI lacks a bit,
I recommend making more drum variations, eq all the instruments, take off the compressor, give the drums a rest too, also the vocals are very out of sync. Should lower the sub, try making a melody following the vocals. Analyze a lot of your favorite vocal based songs.
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Re: <pony><my first remix>This Day Aria remix

Postby the4thImpulse » 29 Apr 2012 01:53

itroitnyah wrote:Yes, this is my first remix.

Alright, so I took about 8 hours on this, and I know it is not the very best in the world. I also know that it is not the first one. So, feel free to listen and tell me what you think. I already know I need to get better software, so you don't need to tell me that. Just suggestions >.>


I agree with everything CGEyeGuy said, this track needs a lot of work and what he wrote is only the begining. I will be honest and say you have a long way to go to becoming a great producer and my best advice is to keep practicing and finishing songs.

Also its not about what software you use but how you use it. I know people who through using purely samples have created better tracks then mine with audacity, some even professional level stuff. The more you worry about not having the 'right' software the less time your spending making music and only by making music will you get better at making music. Don't get discouaged when the writing process gets tough, as it will, simply take a break and avoid being frustrated.

I hope I've helped in some way.
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Re: <pony><my first remix>This Day Aria remix

Postby itroitnyah » 29 Apr 2012 17:21

alright, thanks guys. I learn new things every day :P

although,
CGEyeGuy wrote:take off the compressor
. I didn't use a compressor. That's just the way the instrument was. And I also tried to make the beat of the little bouncy thingy instrument follow the beat of the vocals, as well as the bass instrument thingy. >.< guess I still need to work on that :P
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Re: <pony><my first remix>This Day Aria remix

Postby itroitnyah » 30 Apr 2012 15:24

Kyoga wrote:Nobody expects your first songs to be anything remarkable.
but what's important is inspiration, especially for DJ's who are constantly trying not to make
THE SAME THING over and over again.
I like this, but my only complaint was that the vocals didn't match the track at all, by either key or rhythm.

i'll be the next person to tell you. you don't need alot of fancy software to make good music.
If you know anything about programming, you can write your own software to make the good sounds.

Biggest dip on it though, is just to make sure that you learn music theory appropriately and practice it often.


Yup :P I just need to work on wrapping my synths around the vocals. And I'm taking music theory next year
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Re: <pony><my first remix>This Day Aria remix

Postby itroitnyah » 30 Apr 2012 19:30

Kyoga wrote:I used synths to wrap around my guitar in a song I did once.
if you're interested go here to see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rNVj3foKqU

every single sound made in this song was either a guitar, or a synth wrapped around a guitar.
including the intro where you couldn't hear a "guitar"
I did that by simply getting rid of all the dry audio (dry/wet knob ALL the way on wet - duh), leaving the "wet synth effect" in the background.


ah. That's pretty good
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Re: <pony><my first remix>This Day Aria remix

Postby Navron » 30 Apr 2012 23:30

Having just finished a remix on the same song, I must ask...

Why, oh why would you pick the most complicated, chord shifty, and tempo totallynotgonnabethesame song in all the MLP episodes? Granted, I can see how you wanted to remix it, but in my opinion you jumped in a little too deep for a first remix.

I see you can take some criticism, so I'll make this as constructive as I can.

Don't blame the instruments, or the software. Sure, I might occasionally use something like LASS or Massive to give my songs a nice big boost, but surprisingly most of my songs are comprised of default Cubase VSTs and/or free ones.

The big difference between free and paid VSTs, is the amount of work to get a similar sound.

I could easily write an epic string section with LASS, but I could also write a similar section and get it somewhat close using careful EQ, compression, and environmental parameters.

Most electronic musicians seem to get this craze over the big, well-known, paid VSTs, but really, it's just a matter of laziness. Why spend hours getting something to sound good when you can have it sound good right off the bat?

The downside of that, is you have musicians jumping on the big, expensive stuff, before learning how to EQ, compress, side-chain, etc. The next thing you know is you have big tracks with even bigger, more noticeable flaws.

So while you learn music theory, take the time to learn, "electronic music theory." It's a whole different monster, and doesn't have anything to do with scales, chord progressions, or understanding terms.

So I'd recommend:
- Learn basic music theory, and even if some of the practices seem very simple, take the time to learn it.
- Learn electronic music theory, or in other words, start reading about the process of writing songs in a digital medium, and what differs from playing real instruments.
- Give yourself an EASY song to remix.
- Look back on your earlier works and smile from how far you've come. I know I do!
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Re: <pony><my first remix>This Day Aria remix

Postby itroitnyah » 01 May 2012 15:10

NavyBrony wrote:Having just finished a remix on the same song, I must ask...

Why, oh why would you pick the most complicated, chord shifty, and tempo totallynotgonnabethesame song in all the MLP episodes? Granted, I can see how you wanted to remix it, but in my opinion you jumped in a little too deep for a first remix.

I see you can take some criticism, so I'll make this as constructive as I can.

Don't blame the instruments, or the software. Sure, I might occasionally use something like LASS or Massive to give my songs a nice big boost, but surprisingly most of my songs are comprised of default Cubase VSTs and/or free ones.

The big difference between free and paid VSTs, is the amount of work to get a similar sound.

I could easily write an epic string section with LASS, but I could also write a similar section and get it somewhat close using careful EQ, compression, and environmental parameters.

Most electronic musicians seem to get this craze over the big, well-known, paid VSTs, but really, it's just a matter of laziness. Why spend hours getting something to sound good when you can have it sound good right off the bat?

The downside of that, is you have musicians jumping on the big, expensive stuff, before learning how to EQ, compress, side-chain, etc. The next thing you know is you have big tracks with even bigger, more noticeable flaws.

So while you learn music theory, take the time to learn, "electronic music theory." It's a whole different monster, and doesn't have anything to do with scales, chord progressions, or understanding terms.

So I'd recommend:
- Learn basic music theory, and even if some of the practices seem very simple, take the time to learn it.
- Learn electronic music theory, or in other words, start reading about the process of writing songs in a digital medium, and what differs from playing real instruments.
- Give yourself an EASY song to remix.
- Look back on your earlier works and smile from how far you've come. I know I do!


Alright xD. First off, as you can probably tell, I'm still new to music making. I starting in early February of this year. So, I don't know a whole lot about the process of making music, but I can still put something together. And I guess I'll learn some stuff about how to EQ and Compress and side-chain, once I figure out what the use of all of those is for. And, I'm going to read up a bunch on music theory soon, like now. And now that you said "electronic music theory", I'll read up on that too
Thanks for the criticism :)
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