<Pony><Original> The Stuff of Nightmares

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<Pony><Original> The Stuff of Nightmares

Postby Expy » 14 Feb 2012 01:30



Once again, more criticism is much appreciated.
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Re: <Pony><Original> The Stuff of Nightmares

Postby Random111223 » 14 Feb 2012 08:25

Allrighty then, i'm not a professional producer but i can give you some critique from a pure drum&bass-perspective.

The kick needs to be more beefier, try layering some kicks and EQ boost them from just above the sub-bass, maybe add some distortion. Add more hihats and a break! A dnb beat needs to be energetic to really put the listener into a trance :D. The tempo of the song seems a bit slow (?), around 170 is the normal tempo for dnb. The wubwub at 1:40 is offsync which is annoying in my opinion.

Great song!
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Re: <Pony><Original> The Stuff of Nightmares

Postby Expy » 15 Feb 2012 03:39

Random111223 wrote:Allrighty then, i'm not a professional producer but i can give you some critique from a pure drum&bass-perspective.

The kick needs to be more beefier, try layering some kicks and EQ boost them from just above the sub-bass, maybe add some distortion. Add more hihats and a break! A dnb beat needs to be energetic to really put the listener into a trance :D. The tempo of the song seems a bit slow (?), around 170 is the normal tempo for dnb. The wubwub at 1:40 is offsync which is annoying in my opinion.

Great song!


OK, thanks! I agree, the drums probably need some work. I'll try layering kicks. Only, how do I EQ boost? (Using FL Studio). Sorry if that's a stupid question, I'm 100% self taught, so I don't entirely know what I'm doing. :)

Add more hihats I can do, but I'm curious as to what you mean by a break. Is that the drum loop structure? With the second kick half as close to the second snare than the first? I thought I already had that...

The tempo is 160, which is a little slow for DnB, but I don't think it's unheard of. I did have it at 180, but found that that made the wubs sound fairly messy, so I slowed it down a bit. The wubs themselves are a little bit bad in review. I should probably have tried something different there.

Overall, thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.
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Re: <Pony><Original> The Stuff of Nightmares

Postby Random111223 » 15 Feb 2012 14:08

Expy wrote:
OK, thanks! I agree, the drums probably need some work. I'll try layering kicks. Only, how do I EQ boost? (Using FL Studio). Sorry if that's a stupid question, I'm 100% self taught, so I don't entirely know what I'm doing. :)

Add more hihats I can do, but I'm curious as to what you mean by a break. Is that the drum loop structure? With the second kick half as close to the second snare than the first? I thought I already had that...

The tempo is 160, which is a little slow for DnB, but I don't think it's unheard of. I did have it at 180, but found that that made the wubs sound fairly messy, so I slowed it down a bit. The wubs themselves are a little bit bad in review. I should probably have tried something different there.

Overall, thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.


Plug a channel into the mixer, then choose Fruity Parametric EQ 2. You should see a screen which shows the frequency range of sound, you can boost or decrease frequencies by dragging the numbers on the screen. EQing is a very important tool which you should totally learn ;)
As a general rule of thumb, rather decrease unwanted frequencies than increase wanted ones.

Breaks are drum loops which you add to the beat to make it more complex, usually consisting of hi-hats, percussions and maybe quiet kicks and snares. You can find some good packs with google (or tpb :shock: ).
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Re: <Pony><Original> The Stuff of Nightmares

Postby Expy » 16 Feb 2012 00:26

Random111223 wrote:Plug a channel into the mixer, then choose Fruity Parametric EQ 2. You should see a screen which shows the frequency range of sound, you can boost or decrease frequencies by dragging the numbers on the screen. EQing is a very important tool which you should totally learn ;)
As a general rule of thumb, rather decrease unwanted frequencies than increase wanted ones.


Alright! I'll give that a go. Thanks heaps for the help, it takes me far too long to find things by myself. :(

Random111223 wrote:Breaks are drum loops which you add to the beat to make it more complex, usually consisting of hi-hats, percussions and maybe quiet kicks and snares. You can find some good packs with google (or tpb :shock: ).


Ah, OK. I will definitely have a look. I was trying to work out what my drums were missing.
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Re: <Pony><Original> The Stuff of Nightmares

Postby Freewave » 16 Feb 2012 19:03

yeah get a real drum & bass break in there (feel free to sample an old break if you want). its not really drum & bass if its entirely running on the half-step, then its drum & bass at 80 (160/2) at its just too simple. then its more like a fast dubstep (normally ~140) without the wobble or the dub. you need some hooks in here too or some heaviness. needs work (you need both drums + bass in drum & bass) but its fixable.
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