<nonpony><electro house> Refined Sugar

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<nonpony><electro house> Refined Sugar

Postby Nine Volt » 01 Oct 2013 20:09

Yay, more bullshit. This was sitting in my "unfinished" folder for about 2 months, then I decided to pick it up, do a bit of re-arranging, and finish this fucker off.

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Re: <nonpony><electro house> Refined Sugar

Postby Bare Back » 01 Oct 2013 21:28

alright mate, Its nice I like it you got some cool ideas but it sounds out of sync (it might just be me), I guess another thing is you need more build up to the first brake down as well

Sorry if i'm being a bit blunt btw
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Re: <nonpony><electro house> Refined Sugar

Postby Alycs » 02 Oct 2013 09:13

Yeah, the buildup wasn't doing much for me, it was too slow and didn't seem to lead anywhere (the first one anyway, the second was better, but it still seemed like it was really long).

The main thing I was noticing though was the drums. The kick and the snare don't really work together, the tail end of the kick ends slightly too soon for the snare; to give it the full sound the kick should end right as the snare comes in. It sounds like you EQ'd out the higher frequencies of the kick, I'd add those back in at least a little bit so that the kick fades slower. The snare has a slight reverb on it that sounds really strange with the rest of the mix seeing as in the beginning its the only sound that has any sort of reverb (if there was more of it and it wasn't subtle it would actually sound better I think, it would help lengthen the tail and make the drums fuller, as it is now it sounds like accidental room-ambience rather than reverb)

Also, when you were in the breakdown (the second one) I noticed the entire thing sounded compressed. The drums that had been loud before started sounding faded. I'd try sidechaining the snare to the machine-gun synth you have going in that part so it comes through. I can hear the slight sidechaining on the kick, but the snare needs a little more punch there.

It sounds pretty good, but there are just a few things that still seem slightly off.
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Re: <nonpony><electro house> Refined Sugar

Postby Nine Volt » 02 Oct 2013 13:11

Bare Back wrote:alright mate, Its nice I like it you got some cool ideas but it sounds out of sync (it might just be me), I guess another thing is you need more build up to the first brake down as well

Sorry if i'm being a bit blunt btw

Ha! If that's blunt then I don't even know what my feedback is.
Where does it sound out of sync though? To my knowledge, all the LFOs are synced to the song's tempo (and on basic rates like 1/4).

Alycs wrote:Yeah, the buildup wasn't doing much for me, it was too slow and didn't seem to lead anywhere (the first one anyway, the second was better, but it still seemed like it was really long).

Can't win 'em all. I was going for something like deadmau5's The Reward is Cheese, but if I didn't hit the mark then whatever.

The main thing I was noticing though was the drums. The kick and the snare don't really work together, the tail end of the kick ends slightly too soon for the snare; to give it the full sound the kick should end right as the snare comes in. It sounds like you EQ'd out the higher frequencies of the kick, I'd add those back in at least a little bit so that the kick fades slower. The snare has a slight reverb on it that sounds really strange with the rest of the mix seeing as in the beginning its the only sound that has any sort of reverb (if there was more of it and it wasn't subtle it would actually sound better I think, it would help lengthen the tail and make the drums fuller, as it is now it sounds like accidental room-ambience rather than reverb)

Yeah, I definitely see what you mean with the kick being weird - it was my first try with layering in quite some time. The snare's reverb was part of the sample that I meant to cut out but apparently didn't and just didn't notice somehow. It was actually a sample by Cloud (now Raddons or whatever) a long time ago in a thread about tombsnares :)

I don't quite see what you mean with the kick ending too soon for the snare though. Whenever the snare hits the kick also hits.

Also, when you were in the breakdown (the second one) I noticed the entire thing sounded compressed. The drums that had been loud before started sounding faded. I'd try sidechaining the snare to the machine-gun synth you have going in that part so it comes through. I can hear the slight sidechaining on the kick, but the snare needs a little more punch there.

Where are you talking about? There's only one breakdown in the song, the one at 3:00, and I'm not sure where the drums would've faded as I never introduced any kind of level change. Unless you mean the drop part right after the 2nd buildup (the part at 3:30), in which case I get what you mean.

Thanks for the feedback guys :3
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Re: <nonpony><electro house> Refined Sugar

Postby Captain Ironhelm » 05 Oct 2013 09:10

my preferences:
overall I'd want to make the other elements that aren't drums louder, just seems a little too quiet.
the drum pattern does have a little bit of variation, but it still feels mostly too static.
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