Overkillius wrote:The bad thing about music... is that it is subjective.
The good thing about music... is that it is subjective!
Lavender_Harmony wrote:Very well put together little guide. There is one thing you should have mentioned though. You generally shouldn't double up things like flute/oboe, clarinet/bassoon. Tonally they clash, and will drift around one another, cancelling each other out if they play the same notes. Flute and Clarinet, Oboe and Bassoon are obvious choices. Some more detail on horn use would be nice, as well as a comparison between french horn and english horn, detailing their differences and why they're different, to prevent confusion :>
Lavender_Harmony wrote:Very well put together little guide. There is one thing you should have mentioned though. You generally shouldn't double up things like flute/oboe, clarinet/bassoon. Tonally they clash, and will drift around one another, cancelling each other out if they play the same notes. Flute and Clarinet, Oboe and Bassoon are obvious choices. Some more detail on horn use would be nice, as well as a comparison between french horn and english horn, detailing their differences and why they're different, to prevent confusion :>
Kopachris wrote:
A description of the French horn (aka simply "horn") will have to wait until a brass guide comes out. :3
Rainbow_Rage wrote:Kopachris wrote:
A description of the French horn (aka simply "horn") will have to wait until a brass guide comes out. :3
That's a dangerous way to shorten the name of it as "horn" also refers to trumpets, trombones and saxophones.
Rainbow_Rage wrote:Kopachris wrote:
A description of the French horn (aka simply "horn") will have to wait until a brass guide comes out. :3
That's a dangerous way to shorten the name of it as "horn" also refers to trumpets, trombones and saxophones.
MixolydianPony wrote:Any chance of guides for each part of the orchestra? I'd love to see one talking about percussion.
EDIT: Also, vaguely on topic, anyone know of some good woodwind VSTs?
Blind wrote:Rainbow_Rage wrote:Kopachris wrote:
A description of the French horn (aka simply "horn") will have to wait until a brass guide comes out. :3
That's a dangerous way to shorten the name of it as "horn" also refers to trumpets, trombones and saxophones.
I dunno, when my band director says "horns" everyone just assumes (correctly) he means French horns. I'd imagine it's a common enough abbreviation to not cause a whole lot of confusion in context.
Dr_Dissonance wrote:Rainbow_Rage wrote:Kopachris wrote:
A description of the French horn (aka simply "horn") will have to wait until a brass guide comes out. :3
That's a dangerous way to shorten the name of it as "horn" also refers to trumpets, trombones and saxophones.
Not really, Horns are just Horns...Trumpets are Trumpets etc etc.
Rainbow_Rage wrote:Dr_Dissonance wrote:Rainbow_Rage wrote:
That's a dangerous way to shorten the name of it as "horn" also refers to trumpets, trombones and saxophones.
Not really, Horns are just Horns...Trumpets are Trumpets etc etc.
I think it's more a matter of context. Most of my experience is from big band and jazz ensemble where the saxophones, trombones and trumpets are collectively referred to as "horns".
Kopachris wrote:
Saxophones aren't even brass--they're woodwinds. How do they fit in the same category as horns, trombones, and trumpets?
Rainbow_Rage wrote:Kopachris wrote:
Saxophones aren't even brass--they're woodwinds. How do they fit in the same category as horns, trombones, and trumpets?
Well, in a big band, you have your Drums, Guitar, Bass, and Piano (the Rhythm section). Then you have your Sax, Trombone and Trumpet (The Horn Section). The same applies to a jazz ensemble except you have less. They are all grouped together as being wind instruments and they are collectively in charge of the melodies and harmonies.
Saxophone also behaves more like a brass instrument despite being a woodwind so they are commonly grouped in with brass.
Lavender_Harmony wrote:Ah yes, Cor Anglais, the term I never use... xD
Also I always get the sax and french horn confused as to which is in brass and which is in woodwind, since the french horn sits so damn nicely amongst the woods, and the sax compliments brass really well >_<
Rainbow_Rage wrote:Well, in a big band, you have your Drums, Guitar, Bass, and Piano (the Rhythm section). Then you have your Sax, Trombone and Trumpet (The Horn Section). The same applies to a jazz ensemble except you have less. They are all grouped together as being wind instruments and they are collectively in charge of the melodies and harmonies.
Saxophone also behaves more like a brass instrument despite being a woodwind so they are commonly grouped in with brass.
Dr_Dissonance wrote:Lavender_Harmony wrote:Ah yes, Cor Anglais, the term I never use... xD
Also I always get the sax and french horn confused as to which is in brass and which is in woodwind, since the french horn sits so damn nicely amongst the woods, and the sax compliments brass really well >_<
Ha ha, I spent years in high school thinking the Saxophone was a Brass instrument. Took a while for me to change that in my head!Rainbow_Rage wrote:Well, in a big band, you have your Drums, Guitar, Bass, and Piano (the Rhythm section). Then you have your Sax, Trombone and Trumpet (The Horn Section). The same applies to a jazz ensemble except you have less. They are all grouped together as being wind instruments and they are collectively in charge of the melodies and harmonies.
Saxophone also behaves more like a brass instrument despite being a woodwind so they are commonly grouped in with brass.
I guess that works for simplicities sake!
But the Saxophone behaves nothing like a Brass instrument sorry. Saxophones produce sound through a reed, change pitch via keys and (as Koopachris said) the overtones are different. Huge differences!
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