itroitnyah wrote:A ton of stuff
topitmunkeydog wrote:dont even try, man. You are going to be on this forever.
Lol, I just thought of this scene from School of Rock:
I'm just gonna start listing things anyway.
Electronic:
Electro-swing
Non electric (you forgot a lot?):
folk
rockabilly
indietronica
wonky pop
krautrock
banghra
britpop
post-britpop
post-rock
shoegaze
Minimalist
Impressionist
Romantic
Classical (from the era)
Baroque
neo-baroque
neo-classical
baroque pop
gregorian chants
skiffle
doo-wop
chanson
j-pop
space rock
anti-folk
make it stop
tango
bluegrass
americana
power banjo
emo
gothic
post-punk
cabaret
oh god make it stop
gothic metal
symphonic metal
OK I am done with this. genres are silly.
ghelded_kultz wrote:Eventually my "Definitely not an Ishkur's Ripoff Guide to Rock Music" will be complete. Until then I will explain rock and its connections as I understand it. (Disclaimer: This may not be entirely accurate, especially the dates and many genres will probably be ignored)
Color guide: Country/Folk Related; Regular, unclassified, I don't care rock; Punk; Metal; Alternative; Non-Rock/blues or country
1940-1950s
Blues=>Electric Blues=>Rock and Roll
Rock and Roll + Country=>Rockabilly
Rock and Roll=>Surf Rock
1960s
Surf Rock=> Surf Pop
Rock+Folk=>Electric Folk/Folk Rock
Rock + Roll=> British Skiffle
Rock and Roll + Blues=>Blues Rock (Rolling Stones)
Rock and Roll; Surf Music=>Garage Rock
Skiffle=>British Pop/Rock=>Pop-Rock=>Power Pop
Blues Rock + Drugs=> Psychedelic Rock=>Psychedelic Pop; Psychedelic Folk
Psychedelic Rock; Blues Rock=>Hard Rock=>Heavy Metal (Some would argue it happened the other way around or they aren't related)
Garage Rock=>Protopunk (not a very well defined genre)
1970s
Psychedelic Rock + Classical and other stuff=>Progressive Rock=>Krautrock
Hard Rock + Country=>Southern Rock; Country Rock
Hard Rock=>Glam Rock
British Rock=>Pub Rock (Not quite sure about this)
Protopunk + Glam Rock=>Glam Punk
Protopunk=>Art Punk (Both of these came before or as "punk rock" actually started)
Protopunk=>Punk Rock
Art Punk + Pop Rock=>New Wave
Art Punk + Avant Garde=>No Wave
Punk Rock=>Post-Punk (Or punk. Depends who you ask)
Post-Punk=>Gothic Rock
Punk Rock=>Hardcore (Punk)
Heavy Metal=>NWOBHM
NWOBHM + Punk Rock=>Speed Metal
Punk Rock + Pub Rock + Hardcore (Punk)=>Oi! Punk=>Street Punk and Anarcho-Punk (By the Early 80s for both and Anarcho might have some other important precursors/not necessarily from Oi!)
Avante-garde + Protopunk=> Industrial (Either Punk or Not Rock, but important for later)
1980s (Some of these might have started in the 70s)
Speed Metal + Hardcore (Punk)=>Thrash Metal
NWOBHM=>Glam Metal/Hair Metal
No Wave + Hardcore (Punk)=>Noise Rock (Which has appeared before, but this is what most people are talking about when they say noise rock)
New Wave + Krautrock=>Synthpop (a huge simplification but for the discussion it works)
Country Rock=>Heartland Rock; Roots Rock (Not sure here)
Punk Rock + 60s Pop/Rock + Folk => Jangle Pop
Hardcore (Punk)=>Thrashcore=>Powerviolence
Anarcho-Punk + Thrash Metal=> Crust Punk=>Grindcore
Hardcore (Punk) + Thrash Metal=> Crossover Thrash
Hardcore (Punk)=> Emotional Hardcore (Emocore or First wave of Emo)=>Post-Hardcore (The old Stuff. Might Also Count as Alternative)
Hardcore (Punk)=>Melodic Hardcore
Post-Punk + Disco=> First Wave of Dance Punk
Gothic Rock + New Wave=> Dark Wave
Punk Rock + Country=> Cow Punk
Punk Rock + Rockabilly=> Psychobilly + Gothic Rock=>Gothabilly
College Rock (It's about as real of a genre as Protopunk and stems from punk, but I am not quite sure how)
Progressive Rock + Noise Rock/Post-Hardcore/Post-Punk=>Math Rock
Dark Wave=>Ethereal Wave; Cold Wave;
Ethereal Wave=>Dream Pop
Noise Rock + Pop Rock=>Noise Pop
Industrial + Rock (Mostly Hardcore I think)=> Industrial Rock
Progressive Rock + Heavy Metal=>Progressive Metal
Speed Metal=>Power Metal
Thrash Metal=>Death Metal; First Wave of Black Metal
Punk Rock + Folk=> Folk Punk (Or alternative)
Heavy Metal=>Doom Metal + Hardcore=>Sludge Metal
Doom Metal + Psychedelic Rock=>Stoner Metal
Funk + Rock (I think mostly Hard Rock, but I don't know)=> Funk Rock (Don't know where to put this one)
Rock (Of Various forms?) + Hip Hop=>Rap Rock
Rap Rock + Punk (Mostly hardcore?)=>Rapcore
Rap Rock + Heavy Metal=> Rap Metal
Funk Rock + Heavy Metal=> Funk Metal
Noise Rock + Hardcore + Heavy Metal (Especially Sludge)=> Grunge
1990s (See note for the 80s)
Noise Pop + Dream Pop=>
Shoegaze
Dream Pop - Effects=>Slowcore
College Rock=>Lo-fi (Really messy genres right here)
Grunge + Popularity + Hard Rock=>Post-Grunge
Shoegaze/Math Rock/Slowcore=>Post Rock
Rap Metal=> Nu Metal
Melodic Hardcore (and regular punk rock) + Power Pop=> Pop Punk
Emotional Hardcore=>Screamo (This might have been in the 2000s. I don't really know?)
Emotional Hardcore + Pop Punk=> Emo (Or unclassifiable)
Industrial Rock=>Industrial Metal
Alternative Metal (It takes so many influences and is so ill defined that I don't feel like dealing with it right now)
Crossover thrash + Post Hardcore=>Metalcore
Death Metal + Grindcore=>Deathgrind
First Wave of Black Metal + Norway=>Black Metal=>Post Black Metal
Sludge Metal=>Atmospheric Sludge Metal=>Post Metal
Doom Metal+ Gothic Rock=>Gothic Metal (It may or may not be disputed if gothic rock was actually an important influence on this)
Lo-Fi=>Indie Rock + Folk=> Indie Folk
Indie Rock + Pop rock=> Indie Pop
Death Metal + Doom Metal=> Death/Doom
Punk + Celtic Folk=>Celtic Punk
British Music + Indie Rock=>Britpop=>Post Britpop
Hardcore Punk + Hardcore Techno + Jungle + Other electronic musics=> Digital Hardcore
2000s (see above notes)
Gothic Rock + Piano Rock + Pop=>Dark Cabaret
Blues Rock=>Blues Rock Revival
Metalcore + Death Metal=>Deathcore
Post-Hardcore=>Post Hardcore (2000s edition)
Folk Punk + Eastern European Folk Music=>Gypsy Punk
Various alternative genres=>Post-Punk/New Wave/ Garage Rock Revival
Indie Pop + Classical=> Baroque Pop (Which actually first came into being in the 60s)
Math Rock + Metalcore + Grindcore=>Mathcore
That is a very brief explanation of a couple genres connections. I missed out on a whole lot more than I put in though.
ghelded_kultz wrote:Some other things relating to the OP and other post.
Electronic vs Non Electronic isn't great because there are so many non electronic genres compared to electronic (even if you put hip-hop in Electronic). Better would be art vs pop vs folk/traditional (art is classical/opera/avant garde, we'll throw military and stage/movie related music here too; pop is pop/rock/country/most electronic/hip-hop/r&b/maybe jazz, etc; and traditional is "world music" that doesn't come from fusions and the like + religious music that doesn't fall into another genre)
As far as I am aware, progressive house is a branch of house that led into trance/was influenced by trance/was influential on trance (I'm not quite sure). Whatever it was, it is important enough to mention.
Disco and Reggae are not electronic music genres, as influential as they were. Both later had numerous offspring that are electronic (Electronic/Synthetic Disco=>Post-Disco=>House) (Reggae=>Dancehall(some is electronic, some isn't)=>Ragga (electronic)) but are not electronic themselves.
Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:I dare you to find an example of each of the things you listed, Ghelded >:D
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