Will We Ever Run Out of Music?

[GhostXb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAcjV60R ... ure=colike

This video blew my mind! I'm glad someone took the time to get this information because I've been wondering about it myself. Also, the links he posted in the description are very amusing as well.

When I saw this video, this thread started by Peak Freak came to mind.

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[GhostXb]

Just finished watching this documentary series, it s very educational, and very relevant. Highly recomend watching "Everything Is A Remix"

http://www.everythingisaremix.info/watch-the-series/

[CommandSpry]

your stuff is original as long as you disregard all the other stuff.

In other words, the stuff you come up with yourself is original even if the same melody already exists.

So don't wrap your head around this ever : )

[Dr_Dissonance]

In short no. The guy refers to melody an awful lot when there's a lot more to music than that. A lot of pieces I enjoy because of the timbre, not the melody.
He sticks to equal temperament a lot. Our current tuning system only gives us a fraction of the amount of frequencies available to us. So why not try out those other frequencies?
He did mention about the brain being wired to not like those frequencies, but that's not cemented in there. You can adapt yourself if you just listen.
This was fantastic, but for goodness sake, no one ever talks about Classical music in its current state when referring to this idea of there's nothing original nowadays. There's so many new and interesting pieces coming out of there, but no one notices...
And dubstep was relatively new when it arrived. New music is appearing all the time. People are just stuck in the popular music world, where it doesn't change at all.

I haven't watched the 'everything's a remix' thing, but I imagine it's referring to popular music only. If there's any reference to contemporary classical, I will be impressed.

[Kopachris]

In short no. The guy refers to melody an awful lot when there's a lot more to music than that. A lot of pieces I enjoy because of the timbre, not the melody.
He sticks to equal temperament a lot. Our current tuning system only gives us a fraction of the amount of frequencies available to us. So why not try out those other frequencies?
He did mention about the brain being wired to not like those frequencies, but that's not cemented in there. You can adapt yourself if you just listen.
This was fantastic, but for goodness sake, no one ever talks about Classical music in its current state when referring to this idea of there's nothing original nowadays. There's so many new and interesting pieces coming out of there, but no one notices...
And dubstep was relatively new when it arrived. New music is appearing all the time. People are just stuck in the popular music world, where it doesn't change at all.

I haven't watched the 'everything's a remix' thing, but I imagine it's referring to popular music only. If there's any reference to contemporary classical, I will be impressed.

^Pretty much this. Thank you, Doctor.

[Ed Viper]

I was wondering when someone would post this. I watched the video at a friend's house, and afterwards we sang "House of the Rising Sun" to the Pokemon theme about five times.

Good times.

[GhostXb]

In short no. The guy refers to melody an awful lot when there's a lot more to music than that. A lot of pieces I enjoy because of the timbre, not the melody.
He sticks to equal temperament a lot. Our current tuning system only gives us a fraction of the amount of frequencies available to us. So why not try out those other frequencies?
He did mention about the brain being wired to not like those frequencies, but that's not cemented in there. You can adapt yourself if you just listen.
This was fantastic, but for goodness sake, no one ever talks about Classical music in its current state when referring to this idea of there's nothing original nowadays. There's so many new and interesting pieces coming out of there, but no one notices...
And dubstep was relatively new when it arrived. New music is appearing all the time. People are just stuck in the popular music world, where it doesn't change at all.

I haven't watched the 'everything's a remix' thing, but I imagine it's referring to popular music only. If there's any reference to contemporary classical, I will be impressed.

Actually, 'Everything Is A Remix' doesn't just talk about music, it talks about EVERYTHING! It explains the idea that all ideas are inspired by our predecessors, and it also talks about how current laws are actually slowing down what would otherwise be a natural progression of how we come up with original ideas.

[Gray Ham]

Technically, the answer is yes.
Realistically, no. Let's face it, nobody knows every single song ever made, so how would we know? Also, it would take an unrealistic amount of time.
Even if it does happen, we wouldn't know.

[Nine Volt]

No, we won't.

Well, I suppose we technically could, but no, we never will. With all the possible sounds and melodies and chords and everything, there will never be a shortage of music to make. And even if we do run a genre into the ground *cough*dubstep*cough* there will always be subgenres, hybrids, and totally new genres emerging with their own unique sounds and features.

[soultensionbenjamin]

will we run out of music ?

[Peak Freak]

Okay, theoraticaly we can run out of music, but that would be in a billion of years, because of things people already said:
1.) Timbre: There will be always freaky guys, who invent new instruments ( Daxophone, WTF)
2.) Interpretation: Some artists play songs different then others
3.) We are currently using a system with 12 tones in one octave. If we run out of music in this system, we can still split the octave different. It might take time to convince people of that, and make it pleasureful for our ears ( also new instruments would be needed, look point nr 2), but I can imagine that this can happen, but I don't really care about that, because that also might be only in like millions of years.

[Nine Volt]

I'd like to see a new octave split, just for curiosity's sake.

[Peak Freak]

I'd like to see a new octave split, just for curiosity's sake.

Guitar playing in 17-tone system for example. As you see, there are already built instruments for that, also commonly used in Arabic/Asian countries.

[Lemanic]

Well, we will run out of new music, unless we stop rehashing old stuff for the sake of cheap nostalgia and continue to explore and adapt. I'm really concerned for the on-going electro scene, because you only need a short circuit to wipe the whole thing from the ground.

[Sonarch]

The idea that the standard of all the music I hear is all based on one certain division of an octave is so mind blowing and exciting, like how would that even sound? I'm so curious now. And that video link doesn't seem to work.

[Nine Volt]

Ah I love necroposts.

Anyway yeah, there are certainly other ways of splitting the octave. I've heard of 24, 53, and 76 note splits, among others. Microtonal is what they're called, if memory serves me.

[ghelded_kultz]

In short no. The guy refers to melody an awful lot when there's a lot more to music than that. A lot of pieces I enjoy because of the timbre, not the melody.
He sticks to equal temperament a lot. Our current tuning system only gives us a fraction of the amount of frequencies available to us. So why not try out those other frequencies?
He did mention about the brain being wired to not like those frequencies, but that's not cemented in there. You can adapt yourself if you just listen.
This was fantastic, but for goodness sake, no one ever talks about Classical music in its current state when referring to this idea of there's nothing original nowadays. There's so many new and interesting pieces coming out of there, but no one notices...
And dubstep was relatively new when it arrived. New music is appearing all the time. People are just stuck in the popular music world, where it doesn't change at all.

I haven't watched the 'everything's a remix' thing, but I imagine it's referring to popular music only. If there's any reference to contemporary classical, I will be impressed.

Actually, 'Everything Is A Remix' doesn't just talk about music, it talks about EVERYTHING! It explains the idea that all ideas are inspired by our predecessors, and it also talks about how current laws are actually slowing down what would otherwise be a natural progression of how we come up with original ideas.

To put it short, it's literally impossible to 100% original unless you get like zapped by a bolt of lightning or something because the human mind doesn't create completely original ideas, it just builds upon existing ideas which morph, split, and fuse as they evolve. Ideas can be taken from nature or somewhere else, but they still come from somewhere. The study of the spread and evolution of ideas is called memetics. Therefor, everything is a remix of something, so there is nothing wrong about making more pony crap.

-Soft D. String DeHooves