The hugging/venting thread

[Trillionage]

I have a problem, one that always reduces my productivity. I have low confidence and i worry and think too much. Because of that my art and music suffer. I worry about what people will say about my drawings, i worry about screwing up at the point of no return, i worry about people peering over my shoulder and saying some snide comment about what i'm doing.And because of that, i can't focus at all. The only time i can do anything is the really small window of time that comes when grandmother finally goes to bed around 9 or 10 and before my sister gets back at 12 from work and by then i'm already beat by the day...

TL; DR: Why can't i hold all these thinks?

Alright. That voice in your head telling you that kind of thing. He's a total douche. A real class A arse. He's only allowed to hang out at that amazing creative party in your head because you thought you needed a party pooper. Here's the thing, he'll sound reasonable and all but in reality he's just an idiot. He hasn't accomplished a single thing in his life, while you were making music and drawing and having fun he was throwing his time away. Now he's trying to make everyone else feel miserable. Give him a hug and tell him to go out and get a life. Like seriously he's overstayed his welcome by like 20 years now.

In all seriousness though you should only worry about making music and drawing. In order to become better you will have to make mistakes and every drawing you make and every track you finish will make you better. And here's another thing, the feedback you get on your art or music is never personal. It's something you've made sure, but you're not putting yourself up on a pedestal and asking people to review you.

You should of course listen and take in the feedback you get and learn from it (especially constructive negative criticism). Then take what you've learned and put it into your next project. Rinse and repeat. Then you can look back and notice that you've made huge improvements! Now treasure that feeling, use the positive feedback as motivation because so long as at least one person likes what you're doing it is ALWAYS worth it.

Positive thinking!

You sir, are a bro.

[LunchBagMusic]

Trillionage I feel your feels.

Whenever anyone is in the same room as me I feel really self-conscious of people looking at what I do on the computer.

Even if it's just checking my email O.o


DrSorkenstien seems right, but easier said than done...

[MatthewMosierMusic]

and while I've accepted it I'm still sad about it.

I forget who, but someone very wise once said that art is born through pain. (I wanna say Hemmingway, but I could be wrong) There's a time and place for digging up your soul and putting it into your music. This might be one such time.

[Lyonize]

I forget who, but someone very wise once said that art is born through pain. (I wanna say Hemmingway, but I could be wrong) There's a time and place for digging up your soul and putting it into your music. This might be one such time.

This is actually something I needed to hear. Even though this wasn't aimed at me, thanks.

[vladnuke]

Back on topic, sort of...

I've been looking through my completed tracks... And wondering what exactly is holding me back from releasing them. Not with respect to most of them still needing vocals, but rather with respect to why I've been holding them exclusively for a vocalist who isn't as dedicated to our long-term collaboration as I am, and quite frankly is not that good. I've started to consider slightly reworking them and making a thread calling for vocalists, and release the album's worth of music under my name only, just featuring multiple vocalists instead of tying myself to one collaborator for every track.

The problem is that my collaborator (Vladnuke) is basically my best friend IRL, and I'd feel like a terrible person if I abandoned him, no matter how many ways there are to rationalize the decision. I'm thinking about letting him know about this (or, if I get lazy, pointing him to this post (if you're reading this right now, hi! )), but I think I'd need a second opinion before I actually make any moves.

Do I remain loyal to the commitment I've made, or do I abandon it in the name of (potential) quality and personal fulfillment?

Look, if you want to fucking release the thing without me, go right the fuck ahead, just don't pull this henhouse sewingcircle bullshit that's going on right now. If you have a problem with my commitment level, go right ahead and tell me personally, don't start complaining on this damned thread. I'm not angry because you're thinking of releasing the album without me, I'm angry because you're tiptoeing around telling me personally. You know I have some internet.

Now as to my skill level, yeah, maybe I fucking suck at singing, and maybe in my current situation I'm incapable at bringing what I have to the table. But I am actively working towards bringing you something you can work with, just right now my shit is all over the place.

Given the choice, I would go right the fuck back home, lock myself in my room, and not leave until I finished all the tracks. But seeing as my dad feels that my grandma isn't feeling too good with her favorite American relative not visiting that often, I'm stuck here. Tommorow, I'm getting right into my room and starting work again.

If you feel like I'm not up to your standards, go ahead and release whatever the hell you want. But for Christ's sake, don't fucking hesitate to tell me shit like this. I know it's a problem. I'm working at it.

[LunchBagMusic]

Vladnuke, ColorTwelve, this is not the place to sort this issue out.

If you haven't already take it to a PM and everyone else try not to comment on it.

Please

[Navron]

This is the second incident of forum members bitching about other forum members, who are on the same forum, and can see the bitching.

Look, if you got issues with somebody. Tell them directly.

If you can't, find somebody on Skype you trust, who can offer you advice.

All this crap with people airing out other people's dirty laundry needs to freaking stop, because I don't like listening to gossip, or people talking about others behind their backs, which is pretty much the equivalent of what this is, except for the fact that THEY CAN SEE IT TOO.

Either IQs dropped sharply, or these instances are people trying to bait the attention of those they have a bitch towards.

Regardless of why, it doesn't belong on the forums.

[colortwelve]

And this is why I sort of hate this thread

Honestly, this never started as me trying to bitch about someone, or gossip, or stir up drama or anything, and I'm really sorry it even came to the point where it had to be replied to. We've taken it to PMing, and again, I sincerely apologize for being an idiot, naming names, and posting in this thread about such an issue at all.

Forgive me?

[LunchBagMusic]

There's always forgiveness in this thread.

We just ask that you keep your head.



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HEY THAT RHYMES.

[Fimbulin]

remax tiem.

lol j/k

[Freewave]

Often times I post a lot on these forums and try to keep the dialogue positive but I don't know if that's always the case or even the perception. Sometimes I feel I'm posting AT people and not conversing with them or establishing any friendships. I don't know if I'm just getting more self-conscious recently or putting too much time in the brony community but I'm just struggling with some things this week. Just so many changes going on, people involved, and it feels like I'm getting a bit overwhlemed. Between making music, thinking of what I'd like to do next, posting on mlr, on skype, and doing my blog I'm just feeling that I'm trying to feel more a part of the community and yet still feeling like I'm still apart from it and forever just an individual. I dunno, it's just frustrating (and no i don't want to take a break). I think I just need to lighten up and focus on making this FUN again before I burn out. So yeah I could use a hug (do we still do those?)...

[@ppleBukker]

\I think I just need to lighten up and focus on making this FUN again before I burn out. So yeah I could use a hug (do we still do those?)...

*hug* Free hugs!

Seriously, you're doing a great job. I'm sure there are a lot of brony musicians out there that really look up to you. I am one of those. The fact that you take time to talk and converse makes a huge difference.

[gnarbeard]

\I think I just need to lighten up and focus on making this FUN again before I burn out. So yeah I could use a hug (do we still do those?)...

*hug* Free hugs!

Seriously, you're doing a great job. I'm sure there are a lot of brony musicians out there that really look up to you. I am one of those. The fact that you take time to talk and converse makes a huge difference.

Hugs get! Seriously though, what @pplebucker said.

Stay positive!

[BronyTuber]

Often times I post a lot on these forums and try to keep the dialogue positive but I don't know if that's always the case or even the perception. Sometimes I feel I'm posting AT people and not conversing with them or establishing any friendships.

/hug

Seriously Pon-3 your feedback is always awesome and from personal experience, you've helped me improve a hell of a lot and its never felt like you were just talking at me. So take all my hugs, you're great.

[Freewave]

Thanks guys i really do appreciate the comments. I occasionally go through moods where i question whether i'm relevant and making a difference so this really did lighten my sour mood. I'll try to be more positive and realize i'll do just what i can. Thanks all. *ponyhugs back*

[Spark]

How will I know if I'm annoying people? Tips? Suggestions? How-to Guides?

You see, I like being funny. I often makes jokes and turn myself silly to lighten the mood and make everybody laugh. I look up to Pinkie Pie. It's fun to be funny. Every comedian knows that and strives for that one moment when everybody just loses all their worries in the world and enjoy the moment laughing. But one of the weaknesses of a comedian is the possibility of being annoying, crossing the line. Boy, did THAT get me into trouble. Plenty of times, too.

I'm insecure of my funny-ness. Sometimes I wonder if my friends are just laughing because they're trying to be nice to me. That they're secretly annoyed at me. In fact, they've already done this stint in real life. They've deemed two people (also their friends) as annoying and are talking behind their backs. They even built a group in Facebook and excluded said two people from it.

That makes my insecurity more powerful. What if I'm next? What if they're doing it right now? What if they regretted inviting me to their secret group and built ANOTHER group for the sole purpose of excluding me?

...

Wow. I'm turning Twilight-mode here.

Anyway, the point is that if they're doing that right now to real-life people (people whom I can relate to for that matter), how can I trust them to be Applejack-honest when it matters by saying, "Dude, you're annoying. You've cross the line. Please stop.", forgive me for an inappropriate comment, and not complain about me behind my back? To stop the irritation from building up before the friendship we have turns into nothing but a superficial shell they keep up out of "mercy"?

Sorry if I'm being a emo-teen, but what the heck. Thanks for reading this if ya did. It helps to get this off my chest. I'm not really good at trusting others with my problems. Anonymity helps. Thank Celestia this thread exists.

tl;dr see the first sentence.

[vladnuke]

How will I know if I'm annoying people? Tips? Suggestions? How-to Guides?

You see, I like being funny. I often makes jokes and turn myself silly to lighten the mood and make everybody laugh. I look up to Pinkie Pie. It's fun to be funny. Every comedian knows that and strives for that one moment when everybody just loses all their worries in the world and enjoy the moment laughing. But one of the weaknesses of a comedian is the possibility of being annoying, crossing the line. Boy, did THAT get me into trouble. Plenty of times, too.

I'm insecure of my funny-ness. Sometimes I wonder if my friends are just laughing because they're trying to be nice to me. That they're secretly annoyed at me. In fact, they've already done this stint in real life. They've deemed two people (also their friends) as annoying and are talking behind their backs. They even built a group in Facebook and excluded said two people from it.

That makes my insecurity more powerful. What if I'm next? What if they're doing it right now? What if they regretted inviting me to their secret group and built ANOTHER group for the sole purpose of excluding me?

...

Wow. I'm turning Twilight-mode here.

Anyway, the point is that if they're doing that right now to real-life people (people whom I can relate to for that matter), how can I trust them to be Applejack-honest when it matters by saying, "Dude, you're annoying. You've cross the line. Please stop.", forgive me for an inappropriate comment, and not complain about me behind my back? To stop the irritation from building up before the friendship we have turns into nothing but a superficial shell they keep up out of "mercy"?

Sorry if I'm being a emo-teen, but what the heck. Thanks for reading this if ya did. It helps to get this off my chest. I'm not really good at trusting others with my problems. Anonymity helps. Thank Celestia this thread exists.

tl;dr see the first sentence.

Celestia damn it, if your friends are pulling this chicken-shit hen-house circle-jerk bullshit, don't hang out with them. It's not YOUR problem, it's THEIRS. Call them out on it. Jesus, I mean, Idk if your a chick or a dude, but bros don't treat bros like that. Be real with them. Don't let this kind of crap go. If your just joking, and if you're not doing anything too bad, if you're not calling people on things they feel strongly about, then in my book you're in the clear. No fear. Fear kills.

[Spark]

Celestia damn it, if your friends are pulling this chicken-shit hen-house circle-jerk bullshit, don't hang out with them. It's not YOUR problem, it's THEIRS. Call them out on it. Jesus, I mean, Idk if your a chick or a dude, but bros don't treat bros like that. Be real with them. Don't let this kind of crap go. If your just joking, and if you're not doing anything too bad, if you're not calling people on things they feel strongly about, then in my book you're in the clear. No fear. Fear kills.

Thanks for your answer, dude.

[inkBot]

I accidentally biked into a lightpost. My left arm hurts and I feel silly. >=/

[Facade]

I accidentally biked into a lightpost. My left arm hurts and I feel silly. >=/

i know that feeling i once skied into a lift pole i felt pretty dumb afterwards

[Ed Viper]

Stuff about bad friends.

Okay, dude, I hate to burst your bubble, but those are bad friends you've got there.

Heck, they're probably just bad people. If they're able to put on such a show in front of someone and then go so far as to make a secret facebook group where they make fun of them behind their backs - they're not good people.

If they're willing to backstab other "friends" of theirs so much, there's no way you're safe from it.

My advice: make some new friends. Befriend people who are actually GOOD and NICE to their friends. I know it's not the easiest thing in the world to do, but that's about all I know to do in this situation.

[Spark]

Thanks, guys.

Though the two people really ARE annoying, the group take it too far sometimes (except for two other people who defended one of the excluded. Said two people are bronies). I'm just thankful things have been quiet lately.

And I will find some new friends who are er... more compassionate. Thanks for the advice!

[Facade]

I accidentally biked into a lightpost. My left arm hurts and I feel silly. >=/

i know that feeling i once skied into a lift pole i felt pretty dumb afterwards

Bitch please.
I fell in wet cement.

Edit: It was face first.

what? how? xD

[MatthewMosierMusic]

So, I got my grades back today. It was really bad. Like, Avatar: The Last Airbender Movie bad. I am now on my "last chance" to stay in school. And because of this, I have to quit music. Well, I'm not totally sure. It's like, I have to pick what I want as a career. Music or Engineering. But, I'm leaning towards job security. So, I will try and make things during any free time I get, but likely I'm out till 2013.

It was fun while it lasted. Love you all!

[vladnuke]

So, I got my grades back today. It was really bad. Like, Avatar: The Last Airbender Movie bad. I am now on my "last chance" to stay in school. And because of this, I have to quit music. Well, I'm not totally sure. It's like, I have to pick what I want as a career. Music or Engineering. But, I'm leaning towards job security. So, I will try and make things during any free time I get, but likely I'm out till 2013.

It was fun while it lasted. Love you all!

Gasp! Oh no! You're one of my favorite guitarists here. But you're right, school comes first, so good luck with that. Hope to see more stuff from you soon.