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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Nine Volt » 17 Jan 2013 16:03

Pewter Robot wrote:How do I delete a thread I started?

You can't.

I don't even think the mods can, unless they delete everyone else's posts too.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Conduit » 17 Jan 2013 16:31

I wouldn't bother locking it, everyone up to this point has been on topic, and rather civil if I do say so myself. Good points have been brought up, but I guess if the debate is over there's not too much point keeping it open.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby LFP » 17 Jan 2013 16:32

They can delete threads ^^

Also: don't take everyone's message wrong pewter, only because we are choosing a diffrent path doesn't mean we are not supporting your choice, you are free to do whatever you want.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Lavender_Harmony » 17 Jan 2013 16:35

Everyone has been discussing it, and due to your tantrums, I think it's probably poignant to leave this embarrassment for all to see.

You're leaving anyway, OP, so I don't know why you care. :)
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby itroitnyah » 17 Jan 2013 16:50

I actually feel bad for Pewter. But I'm not sure which is more sad... That he can't realize that nobody's stopping him or that he can't realize we're all supporting him. I just feel bad because some people on here sorta unnecessarily slammed him. I mean, he should know that forums are for expressing opinions and sharing ideas, and that means that not everybody is going to agree with him, but he should also know that we don't mean to be slamming him this hard, that debates always turn out this way and we don't mean for it to be this bad. I feel like we should do something for Pewter as an apology. But that could be just me who feels this way.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Carbon Dust » 17 Jan 2013 16:52

Pewter Robot wrote:How do I delete a thread I started?


^ this
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Fimbulin » 17 Jan 2013 17:30

It's not like you are obligated to stay or even that we are obligated to listen and promote everyone's music. Honestly all I can say is that you're leaving a good community full of a lot of good people, and a few noisy fat basement dwelling creeper bad apples.

I enjoy the occasional Skype comments involving me or even the random "Hey there!" I also enjoy showing my musical creations to others, to hear their thoughts on it, and maybe, just maybe learn something. To me, MLR is a good way to get advice and help other people out (and sometimes be silly).

"social obsessions" over musicians? music popularity should be fair? who have you been talking to? haha I don't know why, but I find this thread kindof funny.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Foxtrot89 » 17 Jan 2013 19:29

Meh. Art has no rules. I fully support the decision to recess into obscurity if that's what appeases you. It doesn't appeal to me so I won't do it. Art is great like that.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby vladnuke » 17 Jan 2013 19:32

I looked at this thread and just saw this shit and was all "whaaaat"

Basically that's it that's all I have to say.

But srsly, Pewter, you're just the bestest. For my next album, the public has to sift through a large collection of various types of pornography. I'm uploading the whole album to RedTube. I suggest everyone do the same. I know my 66 subscribers will be loyal to me and move their asses over to this new frontier. The album after that will only be accesible by hacking into the white house bathroom computer and accessing the stool logs. After that, they have to solve a sudoku puzzle. And it's always going to be released under a different name, but you can find out it's me because the name will have the first letter be a number divisible by 3 and the number of letters divisible by 4, thus playing into the 413 motif of Homestuck. Did I mention every song will be about homestuck? Yeah, that's happening too. But I do it 4 teh troo fenz.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby K3WRO » 18 Jan 2013 02:03

Request an admin to lock, best chances it will be forgotten forever

Anyway, is this a real deal?
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Nine Volt » 18 Jan 2013 14:14

K3WRO wrote:Request an admin to lock, best chances it will be forgotten forever

Anyway, is this a real deal?

Yes, Pewter really is throwing a fit. Again.

Don't lock it, we want future generations to keep laughing at this.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Lavender_Harmony » 18 Jan 2013 15:52

Not locking just yet because there is potential for people to talk about the fun and obscure ways of releasing albums, as I tried to hint at in my original post. So... talk about that.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Nine Volt » 18 Jan 2013 16:35

Throw it on to the backtrack of an amateur fetish porn video and require your fans to download the video (of course only possible by sharing on Facebook) and rip the audio themselves. But before that, they have to traverse the bowels of 4chan for the encryption code only to find out it isn't there, so they take it upon themselves to decode it themselves but when they find out they can't they hire a professional decryptor who can't do it either because he keeps vomiting when he sees the video thumbnail.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Captain Ironhelm » 18 Jan 2013 16:46

write secret links to your albums on public bathroom stall walls encoded in numbers and swear words.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Freewave » 18 Jan 2013 17:04

Actually releasing your music via torrents while your basically invisible to your intended audience is just the tip of the iceberg for making your music impossible to get a hold of.

Here's 10 examples of how to really push the envelope
http://listverse.com/2013/01/15/10-musi ... etermined/

I think releasing your music attached to free porn is a great promotional tool that will pay for itself. I know that Pendulum has been using Tiarawhy to advertize their music all last year. :D

But seriously you can use a blog to release embed and release your music if you really want to try to stand out in some way. Many people don't bother but many people should look into it if you can do it well.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Pseudo » 18 Jan 2013 17:45

Now, I don't make music, I had two mixes on my soundcloud profile.
I left silently, quietly and didn't tell anyone.
Nobody noticed.

To be honest, for me, soundcloud was too much of a drag to uphold. :/
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby MRPPony » 18 Jan 2013 18:14

Lavender_Harmony wrote:Not locking just yet because there is potential for people to talk about the fun and obscure ways of releasing albums, as I tried to hint at in my original post. So... talk about that.

.....I will do as you say, Master.

Kyoga wrote:But, all joking aside, there seem to be quite a lot of obscure yet entertaining ways to publish your newest albums. What do you guys think are the best methods that aren't quite a part of the mainstream approach (itunes, bandcamp, etc.)


You could do it the old skool way which I think is a lot better and makes it seem as if you're more "human" which is to burn your best song/songs to CDs, go out and approach different people and say, "Hey, do you like [genre]? If yes, say would you like to listen to my song/album? If you like it, I'll give it to you/charge you for $1."

Doing that will give the listener a face and can see clearly what you, a musician, is trying to express through your music. Two hiphop artists did the same way with me and my brother one night we were walking about. I for the life of me can't find that damn CD, but I regret not looking them up/copying it to my desktop because it was good. They said you can buy it, but they were willing to give at least 1 CD away. We bought our own for $5 each.

Everything's so digital now. Sure its good, but what happened to communication? We need more of that ^_^ (says the shut-in, socially awkward, mute)

Pseudo wrote:Now, I don't make music, I had two mixes on my soundcloud profile.
I left silently, quietly and didn't tell anyone.
Nobody noticed.

To be honest, for me, soundcloud was too much of a drag to uphold. :/


Well because of bs loyalty rights for here and there and blah blah, mixes aren't that great for Soundcloud anyway since everything you upload is assuming that its either yours, your remix with proper permission, or your mix according to loyalties based on where you're located. Songs you play I'm not supposed to be able to listen to, but I can. So...everyone loves listening/making mixes buuuut again this bs blah business keeps it down to a minimum.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Freewave » 18 Jan 2013 18:32

MRPPony wrote:Well because of bs loyalty rights for here and there and blah blah, mixes aren't that great for Soundcloud anyway since everything you upload is assuming that its either yours, your remix with proper permission, or your mix according to loyalties based on where you're located. Songs you play I'm not supposed to be able to listen to, but I can. So...everyone loves listening/making mixes buuuut again this bs blah business keeps it down to a minimum.



Well Soundcloud doesn't give you enough space to do mixes anyway. What I'm surprised at is that people aren't using Mixcloud for mixes. It just seems like the natural alternative as it is designed for that and to credit artists when the tracks transition into other tracks with soundlcoud same feedback system and more space for a free account.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby ghelded_kultz » 18 Jan 2013 22:16

How I am going to release all my albums:

Record them on wax cylinders (one because I read that article and two, because wax cylinders are awesome) and then fly out to so really hard to get/dangerous place (each album needs to be somewhere different) like the Mountains of Afghanistan along the Pakistan border, Easter Island, Iran, Lake Karachay, etc. Then start leaving clues on my website. Each clue will reveal one number/letter when solved. Eventually a full set of co-ordinates will be revealed, showing where the cylinders are hidden. Someone then has to get there, find the cylinders and find a way to convert them to mp3 format and than post them online.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby derpytunes » 18 Jan 2013 22:49

I would put the url to my new song divided evenly into the descriptions of all my previous videos, forcing everyone to watch all my old songs to hear my new song.
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Lavender_Harmony » 19 Jan 2013 02:17

I'm glad Zaireeka made that list, but they kinda missed the point. The fun in that album is the natural drift thats going to occur, and each listen will be slightly different. I've done it before with two copies, having one copy of the drums and two of everything else, all in seperate rooms of a house, with three friends.

...I used to be pretty obsessed with the Flaming Lips. Still love them to this day haha
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Pseudo » 19 Jan 2013 06:29

Freewave wrote:
MRPPony wrote:Well because of bs loyalty rights for here and there and blah blah, mixes aren't that great for Soundcloud anyway since everything you upload is assuming that its either yours, your remix with proper permission, or your mix according to loyalties based on where you're located. Songs you play I'm not supposed to be able to listen to, but I can. So...everyone loves listening/making mixes buuuut again this bs blah business keeps it down to a minimum.



Well Soundcloud doesn't give you enough space to do mixes anyway. What I'm surprised at is that people aren't using Mixcloud for mixes. It just seems like the natural alternative as it is designed for that and to credit artists when the tracks transition into other tracks with soundlcoud same feedback system and more space for a free account.


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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Luna's Navel » 20 Jan 2013 01:31

To op:
I kind of see what you are trying to express, but at the same time I'm scratching my head.

First part:

Good you are exploring more ways to share your music outside the pony fandom (if you are not going to give hints if it will be pony related [implying it will be pony related], if you do good luck).
I know off a big band here in Mexico where the main vocalist/lyricist tends to change his pseudonym every now and then, but that doesn't make a difference.

"True music fans"... you lost me here.

If you want to make people find new kinds of music and all that stuff you can always share some of your picks, or simply create music in different styles so people can listen to it and look for similar styles. Most of people only look for different bands from the same genre until someone show them something different.


Middle part:

Social obsessions? please explain this to me.

There will always be recognition, just look at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

You know? there's always the "Hey this song is good, but this one is better", if that happens to tracks of the same artist why not to anon music? There is always something that stands out... but maybe you are referring to anonymous feedback/followers?

"Passionate musicians"... once again you lost me here. People invest different amounts of time doing music than others and everyone have different motivations, that's all I can say.

Creativity is something unique and varies form person to person, it doesn't have nothing to do with popularity or stuff; and something is popular because people like it or know about it, then if more people like it it will be more popular.

Last part:

As an artist you can't free your self of your creations since they are a part of you and that part of you is what your public will get: A piece of you.

And just when that "thing" you created "creates" a "thing" inside the spectator, art is born.

Just my thoughts, thanks for this tread m(_ _)m

Good luck and I really hope you can achieve what you are aiming for =)
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby itroitnyah » 20 Jan 2013 08:06

Hey Luna's Navel... What's up with that username? :lol:

Anyways, Pewter already left mlr, he got pissed off since we didn't think his idea was a good one, despite that we supported him in his rather odd goal
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Re: Leaving Soundcloud

Postby Nine Volt » 20 Jan 2013 08:13

itroitnyah wrote:Hey Luna's Navel... What's up with that username? :lol:

Anyways, Pewter already left mlr, he got pissed off since we didn't think his idea was a good one, despite that we supported him in his rather odd goal

Eh, he's done it before. He came back.

Not sure if he will this time though, he made an entire thread after all. AN ENTIRE THREAD :3
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