legion2190 wrote:soultensionbenjamin wrote:yeah you guys got to remember next to fanfiction writers we have the hardest time in this community getting our stuff out to the public what they're should be is a pony music website that the fans need to discover and then pony music would be a lot easier to discover and share.
This post kinda shows the problem. There ARE pony music websites. Equestrian Rhythm, the Brony Musician Directory, and Equestria Music all serve that purpose. People just need to turn to other websites. Eqd, sadly, refuses to post competing websites, meaning people have to find them on their own. We need to get the word out about these places.
Honestly that's why I created the NEWS section on BronyMusic.com so that people would be aware of where to submit and some other sites that try to do similar things to EQD. But keep in mind that sites like Pony Remix Planet took a month off from posting new brony tracks daily so even these sites are too hard to run, dont' have staff (something i am dealing with actually at the moment), or don't have enough support to be self-sustaining. There's also Brony Radio stations where you can submit your work to POSSIBLY get play as well. Ultimately EQD is like Walmart; they're a one stop shop, they feature the best product on their shelves, and to an audience that doesn't want to shop around. Ultimately that's not a diss, that's a compliment (if you're a businessman and maybe not if you're a product salesman).
Just keep in mind that there's SO MANY artists at this point that the mane artists are CANNON at this point. They're amazing but they have such a large audience that all those people favoriting their videos create their own demand and fanbase. When they drop a track they dont even need EQD anymore because every brony is playing what their friend is listening to but you will see them on EQD anyway. And you know what? A lot of people can't listen to all the top tier and seek out new artists as well. There just isnt time in the day to just listen to pony music from everyone. It's awful to say that but there's just too much isnt there? And most people only know the big names. And I don't have an answer on how to really change that as that's how scenes and genres work, second and third waves always get less attention and we've got hundreds and hundreds of artists. EQD can't feature all the amazing work and stuff that falls in pony and <good> but not <great>. I can't answer why so many track featured aren't <pony> other than i had a thread on that subject for several months about how the community focus itself was changing towards that absence.
I'll be honest I'm glad I opened bronymusic.com to try to make a difference and a more even playing field but I'm not sure how much of one i really am. I think it's been well received and I think it's useful for people but its a lot like MLR where people come to just push their music out and I'm not sure how many people are really listening TO EACH OTHER or giving any love back. If you can't listen to your peers it's kind of all a waste of time as really that's who your most important fanbase is, your friends and fellow musicians. When there was less people it was easier to see them check out your music and now i think we all have less time and listen less to other people (and that's a real problem). I certainly see less familiar faces of artists i know commenting on my work and i barely have time to make music and work on the site and be on MLR. It's like a second job that i don't get paid for and spending time on it does mean that i have less for myself, my music, and my family.
You can band together to get noticed, you can work together to become better musicians, and you can keep putting out great music to hopefully get an EQD or an Equestrain Rhythm spot. Ultimately keep your aspirations low as slow growth may be the best we can get. The days of second wave artists like Archie V and Aviators coming in and becoming instantly popular are about 6 months ago and that's like an eternity now, a lot has changed and they were special musicians. It is just SO much harder since then to get noticed and get people to check you out since then. It's not going to get easier either. Welcome to the third wave.
Let me know if you guys have any better ideas, I'm ranting at this point (and hopefully don't sound like a negative d*ck for pointing out the obvious). I'd say be productive and if you wanna support the sites that do support you guys by all means do so. They need your help and mostly need your support. I know my site is basically really crippled with Glitchog on hiatus and Legion at camp for a month (and 2 others that have barely assisted so far) so i'm going as far as i can with what i got and we're just inching along from what it COULD be and not far from giving up on updates. Again just realize that it is what it is unless enough people make or insist on changes or help out. If you aren't happy, be productive, push for changes, and alternatives. Don't just vent though, create changes!
Please don't make MLR a place to vent about EQD exclusively though, as there's several locked theads and while that might make people feel better at the time to vent loudly ultimately those threads didn't change much of anything but kill the conversation and delay the anger for another 2 months until the next thread on the same subject. Just talk it out rationally. EQD isn't really the enermy after all, it's just that they can't fit everyone on there and that's only getting worse as more people keep making brony music.
