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[Rainbowdutch]

We get a lot of it, and some is right on the edge of these posts and the spotlight posts. If you like pony music at all (Or electronic music, since most of it falls into that category), be sure to check them out! They are all sorted by genre (or at least instrumental/vocal/remix), and if you follow the EQD youtube page at all, even I +like some that fall into here. It's really up to you what you enjoy listening to.

Music of the day is doing what it is supposed to do so far, which is give more people a shot to be seen. The amount of musicians is broad, and the listeners picky. The most powerful way to become known in the fandom in music is word of mouth. If 400 people watch it and love it, they will tell their friends.

So give it your all on your music making! Try something different! Don't just use default samples from whatever program you are using, be creative! Put your best hoof forward! Worst case is you learn from it for your next one!

Taken from: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/12/m ... 5.html?m=1

Lessons that you, if you haven't already, should learn from this note:

- make original music!
- eqd isn't everything

Just posting because whenever I am around the community it feels like most of you haven't learned these two facts yet...

[Lavender_Harmony]

Whats my little pony

[vladnuke]

idk som lame kids show bout horse

littlest pet shop iz where itz at

[randomblockfilms]

- make original music!
- eqd isn't everything

i agree wif these with much greatness. i sort of feel that a lot people just make songs to get on eqd. and they want to so badly that their work suffers in quality. as a matter of fact, i thinks i am guilty of this. but people gotta know that views on you vids and subscribers arnt everything. its weather or not you like making musics!

[itroitnyah]

Things that bug me the most about originality are when people make an awesome, original, song, but then name it the most UNORIGINAL thing EVER. (i.e making a good, well composed DnB song with quality synths, names in "elements of harmony") Or when people use overused samples, like the rbd "louder" or fluttershy's "yay". Also when people use synth presets for their songs instead of making their own.

[Nine Volt]

My opinion? Fuck what EQD thinks :3

On the topic of originality: I hate synth presets, and by extension Nexus. And regarding unoriginal names, that's why I have a list of names that I think up on the fly, so I don't have to think up something unoriginal on the spot.

[XXDarkShadow79XX]

My opinion: stop demonizing the best source of info on what's going on in the fandom and with the show.

[the4thImpulse]

My opinion? Fuck what EQD thinks :3

EQD doesn't do what EQD does for EQD, EQD does what EQD does because EQD is EQD. Respect it.


Sorry for not having anything at all to contribute to this thread.

[colortwelve]

I'd dislike EqD less if their submission system was less awful. They lost one of my tracks that was bound for a featured post, and when I gave it to them again, it got demoted to MotD.

I'm really glad I make music for its own sake.

[Navron]

I'm pretty original. I'm also fairly decent with mixing and song structure.

You guys just don't like my music and/or question how pony it is, despite the fact I write detailed descriptions about the song's inspiration, and go to conventions, and have been here over a year, and actually don't submit non-pony songs, and annotate whether or not it's pony related.

Yet somehow you guys love to accept music at a much lower quality, leaving me to believe, you just don't like my music.

[Raddons]

Wait, before any of you post anything else, let me get my popcorn.

I love these threads. This is going to be good.

[Stu Beef]

straight up writing for views son

don't act like people don't get paid in pop

[Raddons]

straight up writing for views son

don't act like people don't get paid in pop

we're writing songs about ponies

stop and think about what you said

[Navron]

I was being relatively sarcastic in my last post, but there's some level of truth behind it.

I'm pretty sure a few of my older submissions didn't even make it to the pre-listeners. I have a relatively dark and menacing style a few people may find hard to pickup whether or not it's pony related, which is why I write detailed descriptions on my inspiration behind the tune.

Despite that though, I'm sure many of my older tracks didn't even make it to the pre-listeners.

I ain't mad about it though. Just find it baffling when a track with relatively simple composition and poor mixing gets accepted while my submission doesn't even get an acknowledgement it was received

[K3WRO]

Whai do we all rite musicz abat talking whorses from a kids show, it's unorigeenarl

thar iz alraedy 2 much poni musicz oun da intarnetz alraedy, stahp gaiz

[Nine Volt]

Wait, before any of you post anything else, let me get my popcorn.

I love these threads. This is going to be good.

Spare some popcorn for a popcornless guy like myself? :3

[CommandSpry]

prelisteners are evil

[Peak Freak]

prelisteners are evil

agreed

[Applejinx]

I ain't mad about it though. Just find it baffling when a track with relatively simple composition and poor mixing gets accepted while my submission doesn't even get an acknowledgement it was received

I'll trade ya- I've thrown stuff with elaborate arrangements and stereo doubletracked guitars and all fancy production trickery, I've thrown quirky acidy stuff that Toastbeard loved, and I get a form letter saying 'looks like you are rejected! sorry!'. You want the rejection letter rather than nothing, and I'm getting tired of seeing it

I just find it despair-making. I did get a track in a feature not long ago through its being an unusual genre (prog) and I got one in a MotD through extreme effort in songwriting and production, but I'm scared to even look at what gets run anymore because it's liable to just make me rage, and there's no benefit to that.

The other possibility is that there are 600 musicians we don't even see around here or in toastbeard or anything, and they are all submitting five things a day, so we are all trying to see if we can be the one in ten thousand who even gets a MotD. If it's like that, then judgement may be a question but odds are outrageously against us from the start: like twenty or fifty rejections (with form letter or with nothing at all) for each acceptance.

A lot of them may well be 'original', too. Past a certain volume of submissions, originality stops being a distinguishing factor, and it's down to just whim again.

urgh.

[itroitnyah]

Wall of text complaining about originality and how hard it is to get featured on Equestria Daily when other unoriginal (and sometimes original) pieces are making it.

See, the problem is that we only have about 58ish total episodes of mlp so far, and with a fandom that has ~3,000,000 members (or somewhere around there, I think I remember reading one time), so if 1/45 people experiment with music during their youth, or are experimenting with music (just estimating) in the entire world as a whole, then we could easily say that there are ~65,000 bronies trying out music as recreation and not just for school in some way or another, whether it's electronic production via daw, just messing around with guitar, writing piano pieces, singing, you name it. Then factor in that maybe around 1/30 of those people who are experimenting with music are recording it/producing it, we can conclude that there are close to 2,000 bronies who are making music in some way that they could post it online. Butt weight, we have to factor in the amount of people that actually make pony music. I'll estimate somewhere around 1/5 do post it online, so ~400 who make pony music and post it online for our general enjoyment. Some may say that 400 brony producers who make pony music seems a bit high, but I say it sounds about right. You have to remember that not all brony producers come onto here, not all post their music onto youtube or soundcloud or EQBeats or bandcamp, so you won't find them all in one place, AND not all of them choose to submit their music to EqD, which explains why EqD doesn't get 50+ submissions a day.

So overall, making an original pony piece is so close to being impossible, that you should search for the least used pony idea, not the original one. Those you can stumble upon by accident, and when you do, take it by the throat and make that bro. Oh, yeah, I mentioned the only so many episodes of mlp. With there being so little amount of episodes of mlp, we're limited on the amount of pony samples and ideas we can use for our songs, once again contributing to the near impossible-ness of making an original pony song.

But not to demotivate you about making original pony songs or anything...

[Applejinx]

which explains why EqD doesn't get 50+ submissions a day

Are you sure they're not?

[itroitnyah]

which explains why EqD doesn't get 50+ submissions a day

Are you sure they're not?

In the huge 7 page long thread that there was a while ago about how pony we would consider music, I remember Sethisto mentioning that they get close to 30 submissions a day, depending on how busy that day is

[Navron]

The problem lies with timing as well. For example, how many original songs got overlooked or forgotten with the insane wave of Babs Seed remixes that even puts Becoming Popular to shame?

If you submit a song close to the time a new episode airs, and that episode has a song, you're probably not going to see your song, or at best, it will probably end up in a MotD post while the feature posts are reserved for everybody else circle jerking with the latest show song.

[Freewave]

How original can 80 different versions of Bab's Seed be? TBH most of those released and FEATURED by big names in the first days after the ep were rather lackluster tbh. That's rushing out a song to get a feature and you get what you invest.. Yeah the music centered on THAT current weeks episode will overshadow anything with an older focus. So yeah if you make music slowly to get perfection EQD spotlights (and weekly Toastbeards) are not for you....

The EQD submission system sucked before but i think the current MOD is a lot better than out and out rejects (which i was seeing a good chunk of the time). Then again some people are mad because they get in MOD rather then a spotlight which is unfortunate if that's the case but also better than nothing. If you are making original and well made brony music and still can't get a MOD nod then plz speak up as it's only been in existence for a little over a month. Music submissions at LEAST should be making it to the pre-listeners now and it should be judged by your "peers" and with more ways to get it on the site as spotlight or MOD.

Does EQD feature some boring music that's routine and unoriginal? Absolutely but they likely qualify!, but blame the artists to a degree pandering to their audience.

Again these threads are nothing new on MLR. These are old conversations tbh.
What do you consider "pony" music?
EQD Music Changes
"Brony Pop Music" and "Following the Herd"
Don't Be Afraid to Make Your Music More Pony!

[Stu Beef]

TBH, a couple of tracks that I thought were my most interesting and well produced got the can, but I don't really mind cause my definition of "interesting" is some people's "what the fuck"