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Workin' on updating my style

Postby DJChaozreign » 29 May 2013 17:04

It's been a while since I made any dub/brostep, and I've decided to start updating my style, mainly in the growl/wobble department.

Also, this was made entirely with free VST's.

What'cha think?

https://soundcloud.com/chaozreign/my-new-style

EDIT: new link: https://soundcloud.com/chaozreign/not-a ... yle-update

EDIT: NEWER link: https://soundcloud.com/#chaozreign/much ... he-growl-i
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby DJChaozreign » 29 May 2013 17:18

eery wrote:The wobble sounds like a mix of angry bees and a chainsaw. The hats sounds like a machinegun without any swing.

From this short clip, there isnt much to tell, but from this short clip, I didn't really like it. I don't understand what you were going for.



lol Thanks for the feedback!! Truthfully, I was really just aiming to make my wobble sound a bit more violent. The beat was added on to make it sound like there...well...was a beat XD. Thanks anyway! I'll work on it!

EDIT: Linked to a more updated version!
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby cyrricky » 29 May 2013 18:12

Being perfectly honest, I don't like it at all. It grates on my ears and is actually painful to listen to. If you were to improve it, I'd suggest making it clearer and turning it down a big volume-wise, maybe use a compressor on it with some input gain to bring it back up a bit. I second Eery in that I'm really not sure what you're trying to do. I won't comment on the drums, 'cause, as you mentioned, they're placeholders.
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby itroitnyah » 29 May 2013 20:29

It sounds really muddy and like you just placed down wubs at seemingly random, there's no change, it's repetitive, never actually changes notes, and just overall yucky and ugly to listen to. Remove a lot of the distortion on the synths. Distortion is great, but too much is bad. Change up the rhythm some so that each pattern is interesting to listen to. That doesn't mean add in an extra note on one of the synths, that means, change notes, the pattern and speeds that it wubs in, etc. That's all the critique I have for now. shouldn't this be in the music subforum?
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby cyrricky » 30 May 2013 14:45

itroitnyah wrote:shouldn't this be in the music subforum?

Nope, he's talking about his technique~
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby itroitnyah » 30 May 2013 14:55

Alright, well it really looks like he's just asking for critique
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby DJChaozreign » 30 May 2013 16:14

Thanks, everyone! I'm just trying to get my technique for my wub's sound right. I know it isn't that good yet, and, in answer to what I'm trying to do, listen to some Knife Party.
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby Mr. Bigglesworth » 30 May 2013 16:16

Could be much cleaner.
That and structure.

Fix those things and it'd sound ok.
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby DJChaozreign » 30 May 2013 16:43

Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:Could be much cleaner.
That and structure.

Fix those things and it'd sound ok.

Thanks! Fixed both...kinda(?).

Check the new link.
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby itroitnyah » 30 May 2013 17:49

New link doesn't work for me
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby Wisp » 31 May 2013 13:38

I think something much "cleaner" would sound a lot better. The current sound is kind of hard to listen to and not something that I would find catchy.
I think it would be nice to also introduce some other sounds to your style, as well. If you just keep using the same wub over and over, people will eventually get bored. When you listen to Knife Party, notice that they use multiple kinds of wubs in their songs; some have vowel sounds and some are just nice clear wubs. Gritty wubs can sound good, but they have to be used in the right way.
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby PropellerEscape » 31 May 2013 13:57

Honestly, the older one was easier to listen to. The newer sounds all over the place and never really changes. It's very muddy, so you should EQ it pretty heavily and lower the volume, because it's REALLY overpowering your drums. The notes you've picked don't fit together either, and it's a bit of a mess. Finally, as Wisp said, you need to use more types of bass and not just stick with the same thing throughout.
You'll get better with more practice though, so keep at it and you'll eventually get what you want it to sound like
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby DJChaozreign » 01 Jun 2013 08:09

Yet again, thanks everyone!! I'm still working on getting this right, but here's what I got out of your help so far.

LINK: https://soundcloud.com/chaozreign/yet-a ... ange-in-my
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby itroitnyah » 01 Jun 2013 08:58

It literally sounds like you went "aaaaaahh" into a microphone and added a bitcrusher or hardclipper. Also, what is up with 0.05? It just appears out of random and doesn't really fit in, and it really sounds like you randomly placed down the melody. The whole thing is just a disarray and doesn't sound organized or anything.
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby DJChaozreign » 01 Jun 2013 09:06

itroitnyah wrote:It literally sounds like you went "aaaaaahh" into a microphone and added a bitcrusher or hardclipper. Also, what is up with 0.05? It just appears out of random and doesn't really fit in, and it really sounds like you randomly placed down the melody. The whole thing is just a disarray and doesn't sound organized or anything.


First off: I eventually gave up on free vst's only, so the wubbing was done with Sylenth1
Second:I'm not actually working on a song, just trying to get the Skrillex/Knife Party growling sound
Third: Maybe I should stick to my EDM and Acid House XD
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby itroitnyah » 01 Jun 2013 10:11

If you want to get a Skrillexy or Knife Partyish growl, you can find a million tutorials on how to do so with Massive or FM8 on youtube. Then you can really just work on composition, although I can't say that your song will sound "unique" if you use a growl from a producer that's most likely been used hundreds of times by other producers. Give it a try though.
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby DJChaozreign » 01 Jun 2013 11:32

itroitnyah wrote:If you want to get a Skrillexy or Knife Partyish growl, you can find a million tutorials on how to do so with Massive or FM8 on youtube. Then you can really just work on composition, although I can't say that your song will sound "unique" if you use a growl from a producer that's most likely been used hundreds of times by other producers. Give it a try though.


My issue is that I don't have the money for Massive or FM8. The only reason I have Sylenth is because my friend(who gave up making music, even though I thought he was awesome) Gave me it instead of deleting it.
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby itroitnyah » 01 Jun 2013 12:29

Well, perhaps youtube has a tutorial on making growls with sylenth
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby DJChaozreign » 01 Jun 2013 13:35

itroitnyah wrote:Well, perhaps youtube has a tutorial on making growls with sylenth

Nope, looked EVERYWHERE. All the wub tutorials are for the more old-school Skream-style wub.
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby cyrricky » 01 Jun 2013 13:56

I'm sure there are some out there, there always are
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby cyrricky » 01 Jun 2013 13:56

This took me about 30 seconds to find.



ALSO THEY ARE CALLED WOBBLE BASES NOT WUBS JESUS CHRIST
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby PropellerEscape » 01 Jun 2013 14:03

cyrricky wrote:
ALSO THEY ARE CALLED WOBBLE BASES NOT WUBS JESUS CHRIST


FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby DJChaozreign » 01 Jun 2013 14:45

cyrricky wrote:This took me about 30 seconds to find.



ALSO THEY ARE CALLED WOBBLE BASES NOT WUBS JESUS CHRIST

I've checked that one out, actually. THe issue is, every time I try to watch it, my browser (I've tried all 3 major ones) crashes.

Also, I know they're called wobbles, I just thought more people would understand if I called it a wub.
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby Nine Volt » 01 Jun 2013 18:42

This is a music production forum. We all know what a wobble bass is.

And don't say you couldn't find any tutorials if you are going to contradict that statement when someone posts one. Just say that your browser kept crashing when you tried to watch.
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Re: Workin' on updating my style

Postby DJChaozreign » 02 Jun 2013 06:36

Nine Volt wrote:This is a music production forum. We all know what a wobble bass is.

And don't say you couldn't find any tutorials if you are going to contradict that statement when someone posts one. Just say that your browser kept crashing when you tried to watch.

I see how thiat could be misunderstood, sorry.

I also got around the crash by watching the tutorial on my friend's phone. It made me feel like an idiot for not being able to figure that out.

Thread is now pointless.
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