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Techniques for REAL talking basses?

Postby Navron » 10 Feb 2013 11:38

1000th topic on this, right?

WRONG!

I'm not talking about downsampling, EQ boosting, and WOW filters to get, "yoi yoi," talking basses. I'm talking about stuff like this:

@ approx. 54s:


Last I checked, the letters D, R, T, and B are not formants...

With that said, I think this may be some form of vocoded vocals layered with a bass and blended together to make it sound like it's coming from the bass sound itself.

I played around with some basses and vocoders for a longggg time yesterday, but couldn't even come anywhere near that kind of sound above.

Am I incorrect on my theory behind the sound, or are there other techniques to get these kinds of sounds that I'm overlooking?
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Re: Techniques for REAL talking basses?

Postby itroitnyah » 10 Feb 2013 12:46

That's a vocal sample of somebody saying "drop da bass" but it's really distorted, sounds like with a bitcrusher or something.
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Re: Techniques for REAL talking basses?

Postby reach » 10 Feb 2013 14:54

That's a sample man, Vocoders and Distortion.
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Re: Techniques for REAL talking basses?

Postby cyrricky » 10 Feb 2013 17:04

An example of what I think you're talking about can be found in Talk To Me by Kill The Noise

At about 42s


The way he did that, as far as I can see, is similar to the "I Am Thor" preset in Reason, which is by modulating formant filters and adding small snippets of white noise.
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Re: Techniques for REAL talking basses?

Postby Nine Volt » 10 Feb 2013 17:08

More likely it's just a vocoded vocal sample over the bass, heavily bitcrushed or distorted, but you could also do what cyrricky said. I Am Thor is a cool preset :3
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Re: Techniques for REAL talking basses?

Postby Forza SoundFire » 10 Feb 2013 17:12

With that said, I think this may be some form of vocoded vocals layered with a bass and blended together to make it sound like it's coming from the bass sound itself.


That's vocoding! ^^

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Re: Techniques for REAL talking basses?

Postby Matthew N. » 10 Feb 2013 17:25

Navron, this 'classic' is played on DI.FM all the freaking time nowadays. ;)
"That's a vocal sample of somebody saying "drop da bass" but it's really distorted, sounds like with a bitcrusher or something."


Yes, I actually had that vocal sample somewhere on my pc. It's heavily distorted and 'fausage sattenered.'
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Re: Techniques for REAL talking basses?

Postby the4thImpulse » 10 Feb 2013 17:51

I'd vocode carefully sampled speech sounds like "AHh" "oHh" "EaH" with a carrier with heavy compression and some what noisy harmonics. Throw that trough a filter with LFO modulation or regular automation (depending on you tools), add a regular synth over top with the same filter modulation, distorted to how you like, EQ and mixed together to create that seamless sound.

That how I would try it.
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Re: Techniques for REAL talking basses?

Postby Navron » 10 Feb 2013 19:23

Forza SoundFire wrote:
With that said, I think this may be some form of vocoded vocals layered with a bass and blended together to make it sound like it's coming from the bass sound itself.


That's vocoding! ^^


Neg, that would be vocodception.

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Re: Techniques for REAL talking basses?

Postby Forza SoundFire » 10 Feb 2013 21:54

Navron wrote:
Neg, that would be vocodception.

Thanks for all the replies! I think I have a few more tricks to try now :)



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Re: Techniques for REAL talking basses?

Postby ph00tbag » 11 Feb 2013 17:45

Vocoders, definitely. Maybe some pitch-shifting.
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Re: Techniques for REAL talking basses?

Postby Maelstrom » 11 Feb 2013 19:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D6-Q0YU6Bw

^^ It's kinda like this maybe? He talks about vocoders and basses and how he relates them XP
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