Punchy kick/snare help (fl Studio)

[oddboy18]

Hi. I need help on getting my kick and snare to get a real punchy sound. I have good snares and kicks (Vengeance Essentials), but I'm not getting the effective PUNCH that I hear from many dubsteps. I have fl studio 9. thank you.

[Lavender_Harmony]

EQ.

[the4thImpulse]

Its all in the EQing and thats something that will take time, studying and practice to master.

I suggest watching youtube videos on EQing and practicing what they show you there until you've got a basic understanding of what equalization is and how to use it to really manipulate sound.

The puch is usually a result of a quick snapy high end kick layer over large and compressed/ slightly distorted and filtered sine wave.

The snare is simple, get a sample that really sticks out and EQ the other frequencies playing at the time out of the mix so the snare stands out more.




BTW, good post lavender..

[oddboy18]

Its all in the EQing and thats something that will take time, studying and practice to master.

I suggest watching youtube videos on EQing and practicing what they show you there until you've got a basic understanding of what equalization is and how to use it to really manipulate sound.

The puch is usually a result of a quick snapy high end kick layer over large and compressed/ slightly distorted and filtered sine wave.

The snare is simple, get a sample that really sticks out and EQ the other frequencies playing at the time out of the mix so the snare stands out more.




BTW, good post lavender..

thanks

[Lavender_Harmony]

BTW, good post lavender..

He asked a vague question, I gave a suitably vague answer.

One thing to note. Just because they're vengeance doesn't mean they're automatically good. They're already pre-processed, so there is very little you can do with them dynamically.

[oddboy18]

BTW, good post lavender..

He asked a vague question, I gave a suitably vague answer.

One thing to note. Just because they're vengeance doesn't mean they're automatically good. They're already pre-processed, so there is very little you can do with them dynamically.

I was thinking that to .

I've recently tested a beat it sounds way better! thank you!

[eClypse]

Sure, EQing is always important, especially to make the samples fit into your mix, but the most important thing is about choosing the right samples( and layering them). Why trying hard to make a punchy kick out of a pussykick with EQing, compressing and so on, if you could already choose a sample (or layered samples) which got some punch from the startup and you only have to tweak a little bit(well you still have to tweak them a lot but not that much)

[the4thImpulse]

BTW, good post lavender..

He asked a vague question, I gave a suitably vague answer.

One thing to note. Just because they're vengeance doesn't mean they're automatically good. They're already pre-processed, so there is very little you can do with them dynamically.

I didn't mean anything by it and your answer is 100% correct so one could not really complain.

And thats a good call on the vengence packs being heavily processed, I would recommend not using them among other reasons and get more natural sounding drums (or those with less processing).

[oddboy18]

And thats a good call on the vengence packs being heavily processed, I would recommend not using them among other reasons and get more natural sounding drums (or those with less processing).

sooo don't use vengeance....mkay. I guess I got these for nothing.

[eClypse]

The vengancepacks aren't useless, you can still use them, if you know how! They got some very good samples and aren't without a reason the most sold sample packs.

[Flutter Rex]

sooo don't use vengeance....mkay. I guess I got these for nothing.

I'm in love with these samples actually. With proper (and delicate) EQ and compression, Vengeance can do a freakin' miracle. But sampling is not an easy thing. Ommiting base techniques you should learn, you will probably need to do many experiments with mixing different sounds together in a drum pattern, ending with surprisingly effects. It's called layering.

In my case, I sometimes add some nice quiet kick to the snare. ;3

[K3WRO]

Even with vengeance pack, you'll still need to eq and cut low frequencies

EVERY SONG IS DIFFERENT

[the4thImpulse]

I am only saying you should use, along with vengence, other sample packs that are less processed.

[bartekko]

The great thing about vengeance packs is that they include about 50% less crappy samples than many other sample packs

[ChocolateChicken]

I see many users are suggesting the use of EQ to create punchy and hard kicks/snares, but I always thought EQ would only get you so far and the best way to make punchy drums is by using compression in addition to EQ. What are your thoughts on compression being a more effective method of creating punchy drums?

[colortwelve]

I see many users are suggesting the use of EQ to create punchy and hard kicks/snares, but I always thought EQ would only get you so far and the best way to make punchy drums is by using compression in addition to EQ. What are your thoughts on compression being a more effective method of creating punchy drums?

Just saiyan, I get my drums punchy by compressing frist, EQing second.

[the4thImpulse]

I see many users are suggesting the use of EQ to create punchy and hard kicks/snares, but I always thought EQ would only get you so far and the best way to make punchy drums is by using compression in addition to EQ. What are your thoughts on compression being a more effective method of creating punchy drums?

Yes a combination of both will more often get the best results but I mention EQing because its a much more essiential skill in electronic music then compression is.

Compression will shorten the dynamic range of the kick which can make a kick sound more punchy but it can more easily make it distorted and useless. With strategic EQing you can get puncyy drums and keep the dynamic range without worry of distorting the sound (assuming you only use EQs in a subtractive manner).