Can Someone Please Tell Me How To Get That "Yoi" Sound?

[Nikki-Layne]

Alright, here's what's up. I've been trying to figure out how to make that vocal-esqe sound that resembles a person saying "yah" or "yoi", and I just can't get it quite right.

Whenever I try to make it, all I can get is a vaugely vocal sounding "ah," and it is really bugging me.

I've tried looking up tutorials on youtube, but every one that I've seen either isn't very good, (as in, they don't get a very defined "yah" sound) or they use a VST that I can't afford.

Though, from what I've heard, the sound I want can be achieved by using a formant filter. Since learning this, I have downloaded a few different formant filter VST's, but I still have no clue how to get a well defined "yah."

Bonus pionts if you can tell me a way to "yah" in Massive, as it's the only note-worthy VST I have.

Would anybody mind helping me? Pretty please? =3

[Applejinx]

You mean this one?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8743072/100perc ... alking.mp3

Yoi'll need Massive...

[Freewave]

use of modern talking i would think.

you could always say "yoi" in a mic put it through it in vocodex and have a pretty good sample to use. i'm sure you'll get someone else in here soon to give you more specific advice (although you could check dubstep making forums if you don't)

[Kibbie]

You mean this one?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8743072/100perc ... alking.mp3

Yoi'll need Massive...

You can make it without massive too, its pretty easy to make. I can make it in garagband using bit crusher and a few simulators and effects. But massive would probably give you the highest quality.

[Whitetail]

Bit crushing sweeping is the key to doing it, play around with automating various things on a bit crusher over a synth to see what sort of expression you can get out of it.

[DJSheogowrath]

Just drop a bitcrusher on a basic wobble and you should be set.
Alternatively, in Massive, use the "Sample and Hold" in the FX tab, I find it gives it a bit of a smoother sound overall. Jack the dry/wet up all the way and mess with the pitch and that should give you some good sounds.

[Lavender_Harmony]

Guys really?

Go get yourself a free bitcrusher. Play a standard, unfiltered square wave, bitcrush it, put a low pass filter on it, increase resonance. Job done.

[TechnoMetalDude]

get this

http://www.sugar-bytes.de/content/produ ... /index.php

[Nikki-Layne]

use of modern talking i would think.

you could always say "yoi" in a mic put it through it in vocodex and have a pretty good sample to use. i'm sure you'll get someone else in here soon to give you more specific advice (although you could check dubstep making forums if you don't)

Unfortunately, I don't have a mic. But, that is an interesting idea.

You mean this one?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8743072/100perc ... alking.mp3

Yoi'll need Massive...

Yeah, that's a pretty good example, and an excellent pun.

You can make it without massive too, its pretty easy to make. I can make it in garagband using bit crusher and a few simulators and effects. But massive would probably give you the highest quality.

But WHAT simulators and effects? That's what I want to know.

Bit crushing sweeping is the key to doing it, play around with automating various things on a bit crusher over a synth to see what sort of expression you can get out of it.

Thank you! I'll try that.

Just drop a bitcrusher on a basic wobble and you should be set.
Alternatively, in Massive, use the "Sample and Hold" in the FX tab, I find it gives it a bit of a smoother sound overall. Jack the dry/wet up all the way and mess with the pitch and that should give you some good sounds.

That first idea seems a bit too easy, but I'll try it. That Massive idea seems promising, though.

Guys really?

Go get yourself a free bitcrusher. Play a standard, unfiltered square wave, bitcrush it, put a low pass filter on it, increase resonance. Job done.

EXACTLY what I was looking for! THANK YOU!

get this

http://www.sugar-bytes.de/content/produ ... /index.php

See this.

or they use a VST that I can't afford.

[TechnoMetalDude]

get this

http://www.sugar-bytes.de/content/produ ... /index.php

See this.

or they use a VST that I can't afford.

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I'm sorry, i know nothing.

[Nikki-Layne]

I'm sorry, i know nothing.

It's fine.

[ChromaticChaosPony]

For anyone with Ableton, use redux. Set it to hard and put the amount between 12 or 30. Needs s low pass filter to work. And LFO.

[Navron]

Part of sound design is understanding the process behind it, so hopefully this will clear up the, "why," questions, vs the, "how," questions, so you can think of creative ways to get the voweled bass sounds.

Bitcrusher and S&H effects do similar things. They downsample and divide the sound, hence the, "# of samples, and depth," manipulators used on many bitcrushers.

When you break up and divide the samples in a sound, sometimes you end up breaking out the formants in the sound, which includes vowel sounds.

When you put a filter on there, and sweep the cutoff, you're sweeping over a wide range of formants that were broken up by the sample divider, and when you up the resonance, you up the aggression on the filter as it's sweeping over them, which makes the formants more prominent.

If you're looking for a "yoi" sound, you're going to be sweeping over a larger area than if you're just going for a loud, "iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii," type sound.

For simplicities sake:
Sound>>>Sample Divider (Breaks up Formants)>>>Filter (Targets a selective range of formants.)>>>Resonance (Brings out the formants more.)

[CyberpunkColt]

Massive, lowpass filter, sample and hold on insert one, set the dry/wet to the max and have the pitch at about 3 o clock. Modulate the filter cutoff and you have a yoi. Filter resonance should be maxed as well, but that just depends on taste.

[K3WRO]

I've acually done this before.

You don't really need massive, you can do it with harmless in my case.

so yeah, bitcrusher, lowpass, listen to these guys

[Nikki-Layne]

For anyone with Ableton, use redux. Set it to hard and put the amount between 12 or 30. Needs s low pass filter to work. And LFO.

I wish I had ableton. Still, I'm sure someone will find this usefull.

Part of sound design is understanding the process behind it, so hopefully this will clear up the, "why," questions, vs the, "how," questions, so you can think of creative ways to get the voweled bass sounds.

Bitcrusher and S&H effects do similar things. They downsample and divide the sound, hence the, "# of samples, and depth," manipulators used on many bitcrushers.

When you break up and divide the samples in a sound, sometimes you end up breaking out the formants in the sound, which includes vowel sounds.

When you put a filter on there, and sweep the cutoff, you're sweeping over a wide range of formants that were broken up by the sample divider, and when you up the resonance, you up the aggression on the filter as it's sweeping over them, which makes the formants more prominent.

If you're looking for a "yoi" sound, you're going to be sweeping over a larger area than if you're just going for a loud, "iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii," type sound.

For simplicities sake:
Sound>>>Sample Divider (Breaks up Formants)>>>Filter (Targets a selective range of formants.)>>>Resonance (Brings out the formants more.)

Congadulations! You've single-handedly made me a better producer by increasing my understanding of sound design! Thank you!

Massive, lowpass filter, sample and hold on insert one, set the dry/wet to the max and have the pitch at about 3 o clock. Modulate the filter cutoff and you have a yoi. Filter resonance should be maxed as well, but that just depends on taste.

Sweet! I'll try this out!

I've acually done this before.

You don't really need massive, you can do it with harmless in my case.

so yeah, bitcrusher, lowpass, listen to these guys

Hmmm. A yoi in harmless, you say? I must try this!

[5COPY]

There exist a mixer plugin called 'Sugar Bytes WOW filter' that is specificly made for these type of sounds. You should check it out it puts all the things you would need to make "talking bass lines" into one mixer plugin. I'm still waiting for someone to make an entire synth that saves you the time of processing through all this to make these sounds, hopefully we will see one very soon

The way wow filter works is like Navy said that it Breaks up Formants. However unlike most plugins it's actually have a letter showing which range it is heading and you can change that range so you can basicly choose if you want it to sound like the synth is going "aiii" or "yoiii" or alike the waveform doesn't even matter, surprisingly. You can grab a demo version on their site and see if you like it. it's very time saving when it comes to proccesing your synths. The plugin is even used by some very famous musicians out there even skrillex uses it.

[prettiestPony]

Another strategy you might try is to look for "formant" or "vowel" filters and synths. For example, Oli Larkin's Formant Filter should be able to make sounds like that, more or less. Tone2's BiFilter has several formant settings (I think they're labelled with vowels like "A", "E", "I", etc.), and they sound pretty good if you turn the resonance up and then sweep the cutoff up and down. Except, it looks like Tone2 discontinued the free BiFilter and now only provides BiFilter2, which is not free; so tracking down the former might be a pain. (And technically illegal.)

Forma 8 might be worth a shot too. It might take some experimenting to figure out the right vowel sounds to choose, but I think you can get good results out of it.

Lastly, the Delay Lama is a synth VST that produces vowel-y sounds.

[Captain Ironhelm]

Thanks 5copy! That's actually exactly what I've been looking for for a while.

[ChromaticChaosPony]

Massive. Modern Talking.

U mad?

[5COPY]

Another strategy you might try is to look for "formant" or "vowel" filters and synths. For example, Oli Larkin's Formant Filter should be able to make sounds like that, more or less. Tone2's BiFilter has several formant settings (I think they're labelled with vowels like "A", "E", "I", etc.), and they sound pretty good if you turn the resonance up and then sweep the cutoff up and down. Except, it looks like Tone2 discontinued the free BiFilter and now only provides BiFilter2, which is not free; so tracking down the former might be a pain. (And technically illegal.)

Forma 8 might be worth a shot too. It might take some experimenting to figure out the right vowel sounds to choose, but I think you can get good results out of it.

Lastly, the Delay Lama is a synth VST that produces vowel-y sounds.

Yes vowel that was the term I was looking for