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Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby VINXIS » 19 Jul 2012 16:27

Just a q. What would be the most basic, used, and/or best bass wobble/drops you can make on NI Massive
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby bartekko » 19 Jul 2012 16:59

If you're going for skrillex signature sounds, use fm8
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby XXDarkShadow79XX » 19 Jul 2012 17:45

I do not understand the question.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby Foxtrot89 » 19 Jul 2012 17:47

A wobble doesn't get any more basic or common than a simple sine wave with an LFO on top. This is a pretty vague question, actually. Kind of hard/impossible to answer. I will say that it also helps to have fx vst's by the way. Something a lot of people leave out. I've never used FM8 extensively, but baretekko is correct. If you're looking for Skrillex type sounds, fm8 is what he uses.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby Whitetail » 19 Jul 2012 18:42

"What is the best way to make music"


No one is going to give you a good answer here, this is literally something you just have to figure out yourself.
Either that or be more specific with your request.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby Nikki-Layne » 19 Jul 2012 21:21

Foxtrot89 wrote:A wobble doesn't get any more basic or common than a simple sine wave with an LFO on top. This is a pretty vague question, actually. Kind of hard/impossible to answer. I will say that it also helps to have fx vst's by the way. Something a lot of people leave out. I've never used FM8 extensively, but baretekko is correct. If you're looking for Skrillex type sounds, fm8 is what he uses.


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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby VINXIS » 19 Jul 2012 21:37

Nikki-Layne wrote:
Foxtrot89 wrote:A wobble doesn't get any more basic or common than a simple sine wave with an LFO on top. This is a pretty vague question, actually. Kind of hard/impossible to answer. I will say that it also helps to have fx vst's by the way. Something a lot of people leave out. I've never used FM8 extensively, but baretekko is correct. If you're looking for Skrillex type sounds, fm8 is what he uses.


What is FM8?

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/pro ... ducer/fm8/

Also, I meant as to make a basic dirty synth wobble, or a heavily distorted bass drop. I'm bored so I
just wanted to try some stuff out on massive.

I have some idea for basic distorted one osc. wobbles like using a screamer and a 1/8 sine LFO or modern talking, digigrain e.t.c. I want to try out wobble basses with more than just one osc and also to use the modulation osc. since I heard it gives more depth to the sound, but I don't really know how to use that.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby Seven » 20 Jul 2012 10:30

Foxtrot89 wrote:A wobble doesn't get any more basic or common than a simple sine wave with an LFO on top.


There's your answer.

Most basic sound - sine wave.
Add a LFO - it now wobbles.

Dubstep is a wide genre. I'm sure this is the most used aswell.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby PrincessAddictia » 21 Jul 2012 10:05

I heard massive will get a "create dubstep" button with the next update...
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby CommandSpry » 21 Jul 2012 10:06

PrincessAddictia wrote:I heard massive will get a "create dubstep" button with the next update...


:O

I might just switch from Dr Drum to Massive then, if they do it better! The "create dubstep" button in Dr Drum is a bit glitchy
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby Whitetail » 21 Jul 2012 10:07

Seven wrote:Dubstep is a wide genre. I'm sure this is the most used aswell.


.......maybe like 8 years ago or so

Most commercial dubstep nowadays tends to work with more aggressive, less literally "wub" sounds - and even then when people use LFO bass they don't tend to do it as simple as LFO lowpass on sine anymore. You're going to sound quite silly using something so basic unless you use it in some particularly creative way.


Also experiment with other plugins besides Massive, it's not the penultimate wub god machine.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby VINXIS » 21 Jul 2012 10:41

Whitetail wrote:Also experiment with other plugins besides Massive, it's not the penultimate wub god machine.


I do, I have oatmeal, minimogueVA, kontakt, and reaktor. I couldn't find it in those (oatmeal was closest but the LFO never responded/worked.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby Nexaka » 21 Jul 2012 10:48

This is about the best way I know:
Throw a bunch of differnt sounds in massive into it and put some random effects on it (nothing that extends the decay like delay or reeverb though) and then put an LFO on the cutoff of a lowpass filter. Keep doing this till you get something that you like. It's the best advice I could give you on this. You could look up tutorials on basslines and then mod them to make your own. And maybe even experiment with the Pattern based LFO built in Massive with your already premaid wobbles to create more funky, rythmic ones.

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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby VINXIS » 21 Jul 2012 11:19

Nexaka wrote:This is about the best way I know:
Throw a bunch of differnt sounds in massive into it and put some random effects on it (nothing that extends the decay like delay or reeverb though) and then put an LFO on the cutoff of a lowpass filter.

I have done that, put a screamer, add a scream filter, put a c tube and a dim. expander, and add an LFO to the cutoff and wt-position, I only get and know the most basic distorted bass wobbles.
The closest thing I got to a bass wobble was this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftzwBy9g ... age#t=269s
since I don't know how the mod osc., the macro control, and the sound env. works. I never went to depth in the wobble sound anymore than what I do.
4:29-4:59 was made by massive btw. (The grime was a loop after that and the other bass wobbles were made by oatmeal, it's LFO stopped responding after I made the .mp3 for this.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby itroitnyah » 21 Jul 2012 15:08

You can make anything with NI Massive if you try hard enough.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby vladnuke » 21 Jul 2012 15:24

I question my own use of massive only because I make songs with only it. It's in the drums and the pads and the bass and all the effects.

I need to learn a new synth, I'm trying to learn FM8, but it's really confusing and ghastly. I need a synth that sounds nice and warm and can make the screeches and swoops I love without being overwhelming. Massive filled that void because the interface was simply amazing, and I could get the plastic-ey presets to sound very warm and angry very quickly (sine shaper ftw).

Idk, man. I might get reaper, or try to learn Harmor. But as for now, I can't make anything without massive, and it's killing me. Especially when everyone is bashing it.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby Indigo Spectrum » 21 Jul 2012 15:42

PrincessAddictia wrote:I heard massive will get a "create dubstep" button with the next update...


No, I think it already has that, it's called "Modern Talking".
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby vladnuke » 21 Jul 2012 16:19

Indigo Spectrum wrote:
PrincessAddictia wrote:I heard massive will get a "create dubstep" button with the next update...


No, I think it already has that, it's called "Modern Talking".


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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby VINXIS » 21 Jul 2012 16:46

yea, but it's not distorted enough. I did find some samples I made myself. Here's a rough screenshot

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I can't save 'em though cuz I'm too cheap to buy massive
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby vladnuke » 21 Jul 2012 16:59

VINXIS wrote:yea, but it's not distorted enough. I did find some samples I made myself. Here's a rough screenshot


I can't save 'em though cuz I'm too cheap to buy massive

If you want ridiuclous distortion, put sineshaper in one of the inserts, and use an fm filter.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby VINXIS » 21 Jul 2012 17:15

kai :3 let's see how hard this distortion comes out
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby senntenial » 21 Jul 2012 23:29

Hey, I'm no expert, but if you need any tips with massive, you can drop me a line and I'll see if I know anything. I really love Massive. FM8 is cool, but insanely difficult to pick up on in my opinion. I've also heard sylenth1 was good, but I don't know anything about the program.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby VINXIS » 22 Jul 2012 00:47

Aha Kay,;) and anyone who saw the pic, note the "demo" on the top left. I'm too cheap to buy massive. But I still try to cope with it, even if it runs only for 30 mins.
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Re: Dubstep on NI Massive

Postby vladnuke » 22 Jul 2012 01:25

So how did that work out?
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