How many white noise transitions can you have?

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How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby XXDarkShadow79XX » 15 Jul 2012 15:55

I think I overuse white noise transitions, which is hard to believe, I know. But I'm working on an industrial song and it has 10 (2 variations: one sweep and one downlifter for the drop) that sound almost the same in the span of 3 minutes! Is this alright, or will the listener get bored eventually?
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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby Foxtrot89 » 15 Jul 2012 16:18

Honestly, I found that if I had to ask myself "is this too repetitive " that chances were that it likely was. Can't say without hearing the song, but ten in three minutes sounds like there would be a constant stream of white noise. An awful lot of build up for such a short amount of time.
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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby penguindf12 » 15 Jul 2012 17:22

XXDarkShadow79XX wrote:I'm working on an industrial song and it has 10 (2 variations: one sweep and one downlifter for the drop) that sound almost the same in the span of 3 minutes!


Whoa, before you change it, this I gotta hear!
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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby prettiestPony » 15 Jul 2012 20:30

How about varying the transitions more? Change the filter frequency sweeps (or however you're changing the "pitch") to cover a different range each time. (Possible suggestion: if your noise sweeps upward and ends high, then over the course of four repeated transitions, make it end a little bit higher each of those four times. It subtly builds intensity.) Alternatively, change the duration--start with quite short white noise bursts, then make them longer, and looonnnggerrr; or vice versa.

Failing that, you might try making them less obtrusive--whether that means turning the gain down in the mix or adding more reverb or a second low-pass filter or whatever. I think people are more forgiving of of repetitions when they don't notice them.
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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby Facade » 15 Jul 2012 21:23

penguindf12 wrote:
XXDarkShadow79XX wrote:I'm working on an industrial song and it has 10 (2 variations: one sweep and one downlifter for the drop) that sound almost the same in the span of 3 minutes!


Whoa, before you change it, this I gotta hear!

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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby 5COPY » 16 Jul 2012 01:03

Can't really tell. I usally turn down the volume on white noise to keep it in the background but make sure you can still hear it, if you pay attention to it. One of the big things people do a lot is turning white noise sweeps up too loud so the listener will get overloaded in builds.

But for white noise a lone you really will want it to keep it as a background thing because white noise usally just is for fitting out missing freq.
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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby 5COPY » 16 Jul 2012 01:10

Kyoga wrote:Fun Fact: If you trigger white noise with an oscillation parable you can make (with enough oscillators) a cloud synth. :3

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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby penguindf12 » 16 Jul 2012 03:18

Kyoga wrote:Fun Fact: If you trigger white noise with an oscillation parable you can make (with enough oscillators) a cloud synth. :3


How zactly duz i do this
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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby prettiestPony » 16 Jul 2012 05:57

Kyoga wrote:
5COPY wrote:
Kyoga wrote:Fun Fact: If you trigger white noise with an oscillation parable you can make (with enough oscillators) a cloud synth. :3

r u a srs nigguh


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wut
wuts a cloud synth
wuts a oskilation prble

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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby the4thImpulse » 16 Jul 2012 09:56

prettiestPony wrote:wut
wuts a cloud synth
wuts a oskilation prble

Quote:
"The term ‘Cloud Oscillator’ was first used by ambient musician Robert Rich when he was recording his ‘Bestiary’ CD. He wanted to define a new type of “buzzing, swarming cloud of sine waves” and after some experimentation, was able to create such a timbre using 24 individual MOTM modules."

Its basically a bunch of OSCs that are all detuned from each other and each of their fine pitch controls are modulated by an LFO.

Back to the OP, Its hard to know without hearing the song but I would imagine thats far too many noise sweeps. If we could hear it we may be able to give you a better suited answer.
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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby prettiestPony » 16 Jul 2012 17:19

Oh! Cool, thanks, 4thImpulse!
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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby XXDarkShadow79XX » 17 Jul 2012 17:52

http://soundcloud.com/xxdarkshadow79xx/antique-factory-wip

HERR TEH SONG.

The uplifters at around 1:08 and 3:02 aren't purely white noise, and they're samples so I don't think they count.
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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby the4thImpulse » 17 Jul 2012 18:32

XXDarkShadow79XX wrote:HERR TEH SONG.


I think if you changed each one in a small way, diffrent amounts of reverb and filter (openness?) amounts, you could easily get away with it.
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Re: How many white noise transitions can you have?

Postby XXDarkShadow79XX » 18 Jul 2012 06:21

the4thImpulse wrote:
XXDarkShadow79XX wrote:HERR TEH SONG.


I think if you changed each one in a small way, diffrent amounts of reverb and filter (openness?) amounts, you could easily get away with it.


Sweet! I'll try it out.
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