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Writing Music on Paper

Postby Raddons » 18 Jun 2012 23:18

From getting out staff paper to write out melodic ideas, or even getting regular paper out to jot some chord progressions down. Anything. Does anyone still do that, or is it a lost art?

I've been meaning to get into it for a number of reasons, one of them being that I would have different ideas with my guitar, pen, and paper than I would at the computer. Another reason being I really want to take my songwriting process away from the computer (mainly due to my first reason).

Any thoughts on this? Are you all hard pressed to your computers for composing?
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Versilaryan » 19 Jun 2012 00:20

I find I usually put a lot more thought into my compositions when I do them by hand. It's definitely time consuming, but I like doing it.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Raddons » 19 Jun 2012 00:23

Yeah, it's totally different. There are things like certain arpeggio patterns I will do when in front of a computer that I wouldn't even think of doing when writing with a guitar in my hand on paper. It's funny how that works.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby LunchBagMusic » 19 Jun 2012 00:23

It's my first and foremost method of composition. Wouldn't do without it.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Dr_Dissonance » 19 Jun 2012 00:30

I, as a classical musician, rarely uses paper anymore...I tend to use Sibelius for pretty much any kind of notational thing...
Have an idea in the night? Fire up Sibelius!

So no, I don't really use paper anymore...
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby LunchBagMusic » 19 Jun 2012 00:39

Dr_Dissonance wrote:I, as a classical musician, rarely uses paper anymore...I tend to use Sibelius for pretty much any kind of notational thing...
Have an idea in the night? Fire up Sibelius!

So no, I don't really use paper anymore...


Sibelius is fantastic, but sometimes I just need to get on paper at the piano or otherwise I have no hope of transcribing it. (Piano's not in the same room as the computer, see)
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Raddons » 19 Jun 2012 00:42

I use a freeware Guitar Pro-esque program for all my composing/transcribing that is on the computer (regarding I don't go straight for it in FL). It's... it's something...
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby LunchBagMusic » 19 Jun 2012 00:43

I like your thinking, Kyoga.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby LunchBagMusic » 19 Jun 2012 00:48

>Something not so
>MAKE IT SO
>Profit
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Raddons » 19 Jun 2012 01:07

I should try that one day just for shiggles. Get real pretentious looking. People whispering "I bet he knows what he is doing", but in reality I am only playing tic-tac-toe with myself :(
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Cherax » 19 Jun 2012 07:56

Does writing hundreds of memos-to-self in Notepad/TextEdit count? :3 (I have a new TextEdit file called "hello cherax" that lists every change I think I need to make to every project I'm working on right now. It hasn't been closed since I got my new laptop a week and a half ago, and will probably never be closed.)
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Jimmy » 19 Jun 2012 09:12

I just doodle weird lines as though writing on a piano roll, occasionally adding the letters of the notes as I go along.

Occasionally I'll write down a chord sequence to go along with it (such as "Cm F G# G" or suchlike) but only rarely does planning in advance really play a part in my creative process, unless I have an ingenious idea in the night and simply have to get it down in some form.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby WavesOfParadox » 19 Jun 2012 18:32

I have a little notebook for if I have an idea on the go or at school. Otherwise I have my keyboard and MuseScore, my nifty free notation program.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Trillionage » 19 Jun 2012 18:43

I try, but i mostly tab it out when on guitar or just Sibelius it. I have a horrible mental metronome and no tempo.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Rainbow_Rage » 19 Jun 2012 20:08

I'll sometimes jot an idea out on paper while I'm playing or if I need sheet music quick, but I've switched to using musescore for composition. I'll sometimes just do it all in FLs piano roll, but traditional sheet music allows me to really see what the song looks like so I prefer that although the process takes a little more work.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby MasterOfRegret » 20 Jun 2012 00:25

Cloud wrote:I use a freeware Guitar Pro-esque program for all my composing/transcribing that is on the computer (regarding I don't go straight for it in FL). It's... it's something...


I use TuxGuitar too. Sometimes. I don't like how its set up with changing note values. >assumptions

I don't have staff paper so I never do that anymore. I have some lined paper with seemingly random notes on it based on what number of line its on.
Sometimes I write down chord progressions, but only after I've figured them out on my guitar.

I do melodies like that; figure it out on guitar, and say "This is this note, this is this" and just put it into FL. I figured out Loyalty(acoustiMando) that way.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby soultensionbenjamin » 20 Jun 2012 01:30

I hum in a recorder And then transcribe it into a musical note.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Raddons » 20 Jun 2012 01:39

MasterOfRegret wrote:
Cloud wrote:I use a freeware Guitar Pro-esque program for all my composing/transcribing that is on the computer (regarding I don't go straight for it in FL). It's... it's something...


I use TuxGuitar too. Sometimes. I don't like how its set up with changing note values. >assumptions

I don't have staff paper so I never do that anymore. I have some lined paper with seemingly random notes on it based on what number of line its on.
Sometimes I write down chord progressions, but only after I've figured them out on my guitar.

I do melodies like that; figure it out on guitar, and say "This is this note, this is this" and just put it into FL. I figured out Loyalty(acoustiMando) that way.


What do you mean changing note values? I'm not following :lol:

Yeah, I typically will take an idea from the guitar right into FL and build a chord prog and just let the song flow without ever really writing it down. I'm working on a project that I plan to write all out on paper due to the nature of it. I'll see how that goes.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Icky » 20 Jun 2012 01:40

I use paper to write down some ideas I have for a song when I don't have any time to work on it.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Raddons » 20 Jun 2012 01:42

I would probably do it far more often if my ear was better. I am probably as far from perfect pitch as one can get :oops: It's embarrassing at times.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Raddons » 20 Jun 2012 02:34

It's really bad with me:

"It's a a perfect fourth!"
"No dumbass, it's a major 7th"

No, that's exaggerating a great deal. I just can't sing a melody and write it down note for note unless I have a guitar infront of me. Luckily I am taking Ear Training in the Fall.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby EverfreeLuna » 20 Jun 2012 11:42

For me I like to use the piano roll in FL studio and use my computer keyboard (typing keyboard) to experiment with progressions and ideas. This would also explain why the only original piece i've written is in C major ;)

I plan on investing in a midi controller as my current keyboard is too big to fit on my desk. I do enjoy this way of working.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Trillionage » 20 Jun 2012 15:08

Cloud wrote:It's really bad with me:

"It's a a perfect fourth!"
"No dumbass, it's a major 7th"
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That's my problem more or less. I'm quite tone deaf.I can't recognize intervals by ear but i can more or less know if treble or bass.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby LunchBagMusic » 21 Jun 2012 01:30

No-one is tone deaf. Not one bit.

You pick up the phone and the person on the other end says "hello". Not only do you now that it's your mother, but you can tell what mood she's in from the cadence of "hell-o". Ear training and practise is where it's at.
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Re: Writing Music on Paper

Postby Raddons » 21 Jun 2012 01:55

I've actually been working on it the past week or so. Last year I really got into it for like a month but just dropped it. I'm trying to rectify that as of now... I'll get those major and minor 6ths one day.

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