CommandSpry wrote:an i3 in a 1000$ PC is not nearly powerful enough, if you're building a dekstop, get an i5 or an AMD FX-8150.
Motivfs|RefleXion wrote:Basically from what I've seen, building a PC is the way to go, and i5 is the best possible choice to conserve money but maybe an i7 if it isn't too pricey, but question, what soundcards would be of good quality, of course I just use ASIO4ALL V2, but from the sounds of it I'd probably want something better?
the4thImpulse wrote:Motivfs|RefleXion wrote:Basically from what I've seen, building a PC is the way to go, and i5 is the best possible choice to conserve money but maybe an i7 if it isn't too pricey, but question, what soundcards would be of good quality, of course I just use ASIO4ALL V2, but from the sounds of it I'd probably want something better?
You want to buy a computer that will last as long as it can so I strongly urge you to go for the i7, it is worth your money. As for soundcards anything with 24bit/96kHz sampling is everything you need, they will cost $100 - $500 depending how many inputs and outputs they feature and the brand name they hold.
Habanc wrote:http://www.newegg.com is the place to go if you're building a computer (look under "computer hardware").
I seriously recommend an i7 (Specifically the i7-3820). I have an i5 on my HP Probook 6450b and it simply cannot perform well enough. 4-6 GB RAM should be fine, and if you're doing it for ONLY music (make sure there are no doubts about gaming with this), then you really don't have to buy a great videocard. I'd say skimp on that and just put in that money for the CPU and the soundcard. 7200 rpm HDD should do, and they're cheap ($100 - 750GB).
Watashig wrote:YOU NEED A CASE. What are you gonna put your parts in? If you need a suggestion, go for the NZXT Phantom 410.
Don't get the 3820. I'd say go for a 3770k instead. That'll mean you'll need to get a different motherboard too. You'll be able to overclock like crazy, especially if you put your PC in a good place with a good cooler and case.
Yes, memory is RAM. Try to go for DDR3-1600 instead of 1333. It's a small gain, but it's a small price increase. G.Skill Ares is good.
You don't need such a big PSU with a weak GPU, I don't think. Hell, you might not even need that GPU; you could just run integrated graphics (though you won't be able to play any games at decent settings with Intel Integrated).
You can save $100 on your OS if you "browse the web" or get some form of Linux.
I don't think you should go with that heatsink; it might be a closed-loop water cooling system, but you shouldn't bother risking anything with watercooling if you're new. I say go for the popular Noctua NH-D14.
I hear Xonar has terrible drivers. Someone back me up here, or do research there.
You could probably spend some more money in your budget to get a second monitor, a Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB SSD (really amazing and highly recommended), and some storage HDD like the Samsung Spinpoint F4 Ecogreen 2TB.
Watashig wrote:
Here are my suggestions. It assumes that you get your OS for free *cough* and that you cannibalized a mouse/keyboard from an old computer. I'm reluctant about that sound card, but everything else is fine. There's room to upgrade to a good GPU that isn't top end, crossfire, or SLI. I got the Spinpoint F3 instead because it is pretty cheap right now. Somehow I got that 2TB one for less than the current price of the 1TB in a sale...
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($83.74 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($189.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($186.75 @ Amazon)
Sound Card: HT Omega Claro Halo 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($69.33 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1472.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-23 15:36 EDT-0400)
Estimated Wattage: 210W
I suggest you take a look at http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/ and ask for help there. Also read the FAQ and sidebar; there's a whole wealth of information all over there.
Your wattage is 239W. You do not need that 620W PSU. Even a GTX 680 or a HD 7970 could work on it. Downgrade that to, say, ~400W or something. DO NOT GET SOMETHING UNRELIABLE, AS THE PSU IS THE MOST VITAL PART. Modular is also cool.
Navron wrote:Your wattage is 239W. You do not need that 620W PSU. Even a GTX 680 or a HD 7970 could work on it. Downgrade that to, say, ~400W or something. DO NOT GET SOMETHING UNRELIABLE, AS THE PSU IS THE MOST VITAL PART. Modular is also cool.
Only part of your post I disagree with. Granted, we're talking about excluding a primary gaming GPU, which frees up a lot of wattage, but suggesting 400W may be a bit low, especially considering if this will be made for music production, the computer will likely need some buffer for microphones, keyboards, controllers, and other USB powered devices. Factor in overclocking, and the potential to install a gaming GPU in the future, and you're quickly over 400W. I think 500W should be the bare minimum for any computer designed for high performance, whether that be for music, gaming, or 3d rendering.
I do agree with you on the second part though, so I'll repeat it: DO NOT go for a cheap power supply! Buy a new one from a reputable company, and make sure you read the reviews!
Another big thing to consider is cooling:
If you're building a computer for music production, you don't want a big tower of fans next to you that creates background noise to anything you record with a microphone.
I personally use water cooling. Not a custom built rig, but rather a pre-built, "just stick it on the CPU," self-encased type of water pump.
Water cooling is more affordable, less risky, and less daunting of a task as it once was. There's plenty of pre-built water cooling kits for i7's, so I'd give that a look if you want to minimize the noise your computer makes.
Navron wrote:Only part of your post I disagree with. Granted, we're talking about excluding a primary gaming GPU, which frees up a lot of wattage, but suggesting 400W may be a bit low, especially considering if this will be made for music production, the computer will likely need some buffer for microphones, keyboards, controllers, and other USB powered devices. Factor in overclocking, and the potential to install a gaming GPU in the future, and you're quickly over 400W. I think 500W should be the bare minimum for any computer designed for high performance, whether that be for music, gaming, or 3d rendering.
Watashig wrote:Navron wrote:Only part of your post I disagree with. Granted, we're talking about excluding a primary gaming GPU, which frees up a lot of wattage, but suggesting 400W may be a bit low, especially considering if this will be made for music production, the computer will likely need some buffer for microphones, keyboards, controllers, and other USB powered devices. Factor in overclocking, and the potential to install a gaming GPU in the future, and you're quickly over 400W. I think 500W should be the bare minimum for any computer designed for high performance, whether that be for music, gaming, or 3d rendering.
Thanks for disagreeing, but I still think that ~450W is passable. With 8 USB Devices, a crazy 4.5 OC (which probably isn't gonna happen), 100% load, 20% capacitor aging, 4 RAM sticks (even though I suggested 2), and 100% TDP, I'm getting 382W minimum and 432W recommended. At more reasonable values like 90% load, 90% TDP, 10% capacitor aging, 4 USB devices (excludes mouse/keyboard), I'm getting 239W minimum and 289W recommended. Of course, if OP is going to get a higher-end GPU like the 7970, he should get around 650W or so. It doesn't even matter too much though, since I recommended a 600W PSU.
I recommended the Phantom and the Noctua NH-D14 since they are both very very quiet for their price range, so noise shouldn't be a problem. Hell, I have a cheapy $600 build that runs really quiet even tho my case and fan aren't that great. (CM H212+ fan with Rosewill Redbone U3 case)
I wish you the best of luck with building your PC! Remember to use standoffs when putting in your motherboard, do all the rebates, and keep all your boxes for the warranty! You might also wanna throw in another $5 for your thermal paste if you don't use stock; I used the pea method for my Arctic Silver 5.
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