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Postby indeable » 08 Aug 2012 19:07

Ok first this is going to be a long post
Second what I'm going to talk about is a SMALL amount of what envelopes the rap community; rap is so big there is no way to fit it in one thread, let alone even a few books.


TECHNIQUE
Here are a few general rhyme structures to use as a guide-line for the body of your song.[/color]

1) I'll start with a type of structure well known to rap the "aa bb" form its probably the most used of all the formats and is pretty strait forward.

This is an example of the subject above.
Something almost everyone makes use of.
Usually this is used quite a bit,
but its the easy way to make rhymes fit.

Not much going on there, and can lead to quite a bit of rambling if not used properly. So make sure to use this sparingly, or use as filler around more interesting lines. This format is great for hooks as well.

2) Another form of the one above is using the "aa bb" format in one sentence

It's more compact to enact
just put two rhyme at the same time
.

This is just another version of "aa bb" but more compacted.


3) One I prefer, and perfected (with evdogs help), is a combination of the two above, "aa b cc b," where you use rhymes inside the sentence that are near rhymes with the ending rhyme finishing the verse. If you didn’t get what I meant there, here is an example.

What is an example, but a preamble to a song being made.
Take the information in relation to how it's displayed.

This format tends to get a tad boring if relied on to make an entire song, so try to mix-n-match with your own flow and other formats to change it up. Also, this format might leave you with some tongue twisters, so practice saying the lines faster and faster to get more comfortable with them.



MUSICAL DEVICES

1) Reusing one part of a verse, then altering to describe something while changing the second half.

None to know,
nowhere to go,
nothing to show.


2) Using a string of rhyming words to add flow.

Disrespected, he was resurrected and perfected to make others protected.



3) Repeating words ... I don’t really know the point I don’t usually use it but what the hay.

shooting out like pop pop
making them stop stop



4) Similes and Metaphors
Make the listener stop think it through a sec before seeing what you did there.



5) Near Rhymes
It can add a sense of flow to something without having it completely rhyme.
Most used to keep an idea in the lyrics intact without compromising the rhyme-scheme too much.



RAP GENRES

1a) Bragging (ok its not a genre):
This is one I see allllllllllllllllllllot this is pretty self explanatory, just brag and say why you're better than everyone else. This is a major part of most rap genres and is part of being a rapper and showing your boss.

1) (for real this time) Story Telling:
This is putting the experiences you have had and how they affected you into a rap. This genre can range from no one believing you and becoming better than them, to remembering a key time in your life. It's important to use emotion, and show you are behind your words. Use similes and metaphors to describe an event as its happening, or the way you felt, or the condition you were in to add emphasis. If you can make the people listening feel your stance, you’ve done your job.


2) Rap Battles:
These are pretty self explanatory, usually comprised of listening to your opponents then making a comeback. The common way of doing this is making fun of someone then comparing how you are better. Writing for this may not make things too complicated between the two, or even seem like a rap battle so much, as a collaboration gone wrong.

3) Freestyle:
....This is just saying whatever comes out of your head without rehearsing or having anything pre-written. When doing this genre: P-R-A-C-T-I-C-E. I cant emphasize this enough. You can't just wake up one day and start freestyling, if you can your lying. It takes practice with how to come up with lines and not ramble. A major issue I used to have for example was using "I am" or "they are" every other sentence.

4) Stance Rapping:
This is one that I cant think of a another name for, but it's talking about a subject you have a stance on. Try to explain why what you're rapping about is bad instead of just saying it is. People don't want to hear you going on about something bad, try to convince them with examples or instances that they can relate to. Also, sound annoyed or bothered with a edge to your voice if its something you dislike to show anger towards the subject.


COMPOSING/PERFORMING.

There are major disputes on whether you should try to match a beat with your vocals or just go along with the beat. I think both can be used, if used properly.

Here are some steps I use on how to get it right.

1) Go through and see if you can establish a pattern you can use while saying it. If you have to make pauses or breaks in your rap make sure they fit or at least have a use.

2) If there are verses that are too short or too long try adding or taking away descriptive words. You know like what you did to turn that 900 word paper into 1000 in your English class.


3) Now show your track to someone else. THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT you can't always be your own judge, others can help you with flow and give useful critique as well.

4) Record. Record a lot. Let others check it out, then record some more. There are always things you didn’t notice before that you pick up after you give it a listen.



I'll close this out with a quote evdog told me, and I find quite fitting.

"It kinda goes that you need to first learn the rules, so that you can then properly break them." ~evdog


Thanks for reading, and if you like this i might make some more on other genres.


over and out ~indeable

ps: hopefully this makes up for the last one I did. XD
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Re: ok im back with a rap lyric tutorial

Postby Mundius » 09 Aug 2012 09:22

Dafuq I try to read?
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Re: ok im back with a rap lyric tutorial

Postby Kushy Kallous » 09 Aug 2012 10:17

Seems pretty legit, these are all things I think about when working on a rap.
Maybe it could be worded better though :> Seems a little... unprofessional.

Which I'm not saying you are or anything, but, this could be presented better. Great content though!
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Re: ok im back with a rap lyric tutorial

Postby indeable » 09 Aug 2012 10:51

Mundius wrote:Dafuq I try to read?



sorry reformatted enjoy.
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Re: ok im back with a rap lyric tutorial

Postby Magnitude Zero » 09 Aug 2012 12:47

It's more an issue with spelling and grammar than formatting. There's some good information here, it just needs some cleaning up. For example:

indeable wrote:Okay. First, this is going to be a long post. Second, what I'm going to talk about is a SMALL amount of the rap community. Rap is so big there is no way to fit it in one thread, let alone few books.

Here are a few general rhyme structures to use as the body of your song:

1.) I'll start with a type of structure well-known to rap: the AA BB form. It's probably the most-used of all the formats, and is pretty straightforward.

This is a example of the subject above
Something almost everyone makes use of
Usually this is used quite a bit
But it's the easy way to make rhymes fit

Not much going on there. This can lead to quite a bit of rambling if not used properly, so make sure to use this sparingly or as filler around more interesting lines. This format is also great for hooks.

2.)Another form of the one above is using the AA BB format in one sentence:

It's more compact to enact
Just put two rhyme at the same time


This is just another version of AA BB, but more compact.


3.)One I prefer was perfected with Evdog's help. It's a combination of the two above: AA B CC B, where you use rhymes inside the sentence that are near rhymes with the ending rhyme finishing the verse. If you didn’t get that, here is another example:

What is an example but a preamble to a song being made.
Take the information in relation to how it's displayed.

This format tends to get a tad boring if used to make an entire song, so try to mix in other formats to change it up. Also this one might leave you with some tongue twisters, so practice saying the lines faster and faster to get more comfortable with them.



Here are some devices to use throughout a song to add a bit of diversity

1.)Using one part of a verse over and changing it a bit to describe something while changing the second half.

None to know
Nowhere to go
Nothing to show

2.) Using a string of rhyming words to add a bit of a flow

Disrespected he was resurrected and perfected to make others protected.

3.)Repeating words in the end of a line to add effect or... I don’t really know the point. I don’t usually use it, but what the hay.

Shooting out like pop pop
Making them stop stop

4.)
Try to use similes and metaphors. These add a lot to a song; and, if used right, make the listener stop and think it through for a sec before seeing what you did there.

5.)Try using near-rhymes. They can add a sense of flow to something without having it completely rhyme.

Ways I classify rap genres

1.) Bragging (okay, it's not a genre)
This is one I see a LOT. This is pretty self-explanatory: just brag and say why you're better than everyone else. This is a major part of most rap genres and is part of being a rapper and showing you're boss.

1.) (For real this time) Story-Telling
This is putting the experiences you have had and how they have affected you into a rap. This genre can range from no one believing you and becoming better than them to remembering a key time in your life. It's important to use emotion and show you are behind your words and use similes and metaphors to describe an event as it's happening, or the way you felt, or condition you were in to add emphasis. If you can make the people listening feel your stance, you’ve done your job.


2.) Rap Battles
These are pretty self-explanatory: usually comprised of listening to your opponents then making a comeback. The common way of doing this is making fun of someone then comparing how you are better. When writing this, try not to make things too complicated or it won't seem like a rap battle so much as a collab gone wrong.

3.) Freestyle
This is just saying whatever comes out of your head without rehearsing or using anything pre-written. When doing this, PRACTICE. i can't emphasize this enough. You can't just wake up one day and start to freestyle. If you can, you're lying. It takes practice to come up with lines and not ramble. A major issue I used to have, for example, was using "I am" or "They are" every other sentence.

4.) Stance Rapping
This is one that I can't think of another name for, but it's talking about a subject you have a stance on. Try to explain why it's bad instead of just saying it is. People don't want to hear you going on about something bad. Try to convince them with examples or instances that can be relatable. Also, sound annoyed or bothered with an edge to your voice if it's something you dislike to show anger towards the subject.


Now onto speaking the raps:

There is a major dispute whether you should try to match a beat with your voice or just go along. I think both can be used if done properly.
Here are steps I use on how to get it right.

1.)Go through and see if you can establish a pattern you can use while saying it. If you have to make pauses, make sure they fit or at least have a use.

2.) If there are verses top short or too long, try adding or taking away descriptive words. You know, like what you did to turn that 900 word paper into 1000 in your English class.

3.) Now show it to someone else! This step is important. You can't always be your own judge. Others can help with flow as well as give useful critique.

4.) Record. Record a lot. Let others see, then record some more. There are always things you didn’t notice before that you pick up after hearing yourself.



I'll close this out with a quote Evdog told me that I find quite fitting:


It kinda goes that you need to first learn the rules, so that you can then properly break them. ~Evdog


Thanks again for reading! If you like this, I might make some on other genres.

Over and out ~indeable


There's more I could have done, but you get the idea. :lol: Just read it through after you've written it and make sure everything is spelled correctly, the right letters are capitalized, there's proper punctuation, etc. It goes a long way to make it more presentable and therefore more helpful.
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Re: ok im back with a rap lyric tutorial

Postby vladnuke » 09 Aug 2012 14:18

why do you use yellow font
no one can read yellow font
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Re: ok im back with a rap lyric tutorial

Postby Seven » 09 Aug 2012 14:38

Now that the formatting is fine, and the general grammar and spelling is corrected...
Blind wrote:A very neat looking and completely readable verson

...I must point out that the colors which you use to highlight are way too saturated ('flashy', 'strong', 'sharp', 'bright', etc.)

I'm on my phone, and those colors literally hurts. Choosing milder tones (desaturated) would spare my eyes.

Oh, and while you're at it.
vladnuke wrote:Why do you use yellow font?
No one can read yellow font!
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Re: ok im back with a rap lyric tutorial

Postby indeable » 09 Aug 2012 15:56

vladnuke wrote:why do you use yellow font
no one can read yellow font


fixed also there suppose to be flashy and bright. it doesn’t hurt everyone’s eyes. the yellow yes but the other colours meh.
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Re: ok im back with a rap lyric tutorial

Postby Mundius » 09 Aug 2012 21:05

indeable wrote:
vladnuke wrote:why do you use yellow font
no one can read yellow font


fixed also there suppose to be flashy and bright. it doesn’t hurt everyone’s eyes. the yellow yes but the other colours meh.

I don't know about your eyes, but the brain slug green is annoying, too. There's a reason why noone else here that uses a higher quality method for formatting information in content that could be more aesthetically pleasant to any possible user in the form of a large amount of bytes being sent to a remote server is currently in the process of adding additional irrelevant content that can create an uncomfortable situation for any other patrons of this mass of information.
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Re: ok im back with a rap lyric tutorial

Postby Kushy Kallous » 09 Aug 2012 22:01

indeable wrote:Ok first this is going to be a long post
Second what I'm going to talk about is a SMALL amount of what envelopes the rap community; rap is so big there is no way to fit it in one thread, let alone even a few books.


TECHNIQUE
Here are a few general rhyme structures to use as a guide-line for the body of your song.[/color]

1) I'll start with a type of structure well known to rap the "aa bb" form its probably the most used of all the formats and is pretty strait forward.

This is an example of the subject above.
Something almost everyone makes use of.
Usually this is used quite a bit,
but its the easy way to make rhymes fit.

Not much going on there, and can lead to quite a bit of rambling if not used properly. So make sure to use this sparingly, or use as filler around more interesting lines. This format is great for hooks as well.

2) Another form of the one above is using the "aa bb" format in one sentence

It's more compact to enact
just put two rhyme at the same time
.

This is just another version of "aa bb" but more compacted.


3) One I prefer, and perfected (with evdogs help), is a combination of the two above, "aa b cc b," where you use rhymes inside the sentence that are near rhymes with the ending rhyme finishing the verse. If you didn’t get what I meant there, here is an example.

What is an example, but a preamble to a song being made.
Take the information in relation to how it's displayed.

This format tends to get a tad boring if relied on to make an entire song, so try to mix-n-match with your own flow and other formats to change it up. Also, this format might leave you with some tongue twisters, so practice saying the lines faster and faster to get more comfortable with them.



MUSICAL DEVICES

1) Reusing one part of a verse, then altering to describe something while changing the second half.

None to know,
nowhere to go,
nothing to show.


2) Using a string of rhyming words to add flow.

Disrespected, he was resurrected and perfected to make others protected.



3) Repeating words ... I don’t really know the point I don’t usually use it but what the hay.

shooting out like pop pop
making them stop stop



4) Similes and Metaphors
Make the listener stop think it through a sec before seeing what you did there.



5) Near Rhymes
It can add a sense of flow to something without having it completely rhyme.
Most used to keep an idea in the lyrics intact without compromising the rhyme-scheme too much.


**NOTE: These next sections are biased, based on personal opinion, and rather here to give idea on what you're doing with your raps, rather than trying to classify.

RAP GENRES

1a) Bragging (ok its not a genre):
This is one I see allllllllllllllllllllot this is pretty self explanatory, just brag and say why you're better than everyone else. This is a major part of most rap genres and is part of being a rapper and showing your boss-sauce.

1) (for real this time) Story Telling:
This is putting the experiences you have had and how they affected you into a rap. This genre can range from no one believing you and becoming better than them, to remembering a key time in your life. It's important to use emotion, and show you are behind your words. Use similes and metaphors to describe an event as its happening, or the way you felt, or the condition you were in to add emphasis. If you can make the people listening feel your stance, you’ve done your job.


2) Rap Battles:
These are pretty self explanatory, usually comprised of listening to your opponents then making a comeback. The common way of doing this is making fun of someone then comparing how you are better. Writing for this may not make things too complicated between the two, or even seem like a rap battle so much, as a collaboration gone wrong.

3) Freestyle:
....This is just saying whatever comes out of your head without rehearsing or having anything pre-written. When doing this genre: P-R-A-C-T-I-C-E. I cant emphasize this enough. You can't just wake up one day and start freestyling, if you can your lying. It takes practice with how to come up with lines and not ramble. A major issue I used to have for example was using "I am" or "they are" every other sentence.

4) Stance Rapping:
This is one that I cant think of a another name for, but it's talking about a subject you have a stance on. Try to explain why what you're rapping about is bad instead of just saying it is. People don't want to hear you going on about something bad, try to convince them with examples or instances that they can relate to. Also, sound annoyed or bothered with a edge to your voice if its something you dislike to show anger towards the subject.


COMPOSING/PERFORMING.

There are major disputes on whether you should try to match a beat with your vocals or just go along with the beat. I think both can be used, if used properly.

Here are some steps I use on how to get it right.

1) Go through and see if you can establish a pattern you can use while saying it. If you have to make pauses or breaks in your rap make sure they fit or at least have a use.

2) If there are verses that are too short or too long try adding or taking away descriptive words. You know like what you did to turn that 900 word paper into 1000 in your English class.
**EDITORS NOTE: I've kept my mouth shut through most of this, but NOOOOO!!! NO MORE FILLER!!! ><

3) Now show your track to someone else. THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT you can't always be your own judge, others can help you with flow and give useful critique as well.

4) Record. Record a lot. Let others check it out, then record some more. There are always things you didn’t notice before that you pick up after you give it a listen.



I'll close this out with a quote evdog told me, and I find quite fitting.

"It kinda goes that you need to first learn the rules, so that you can then properly break them." ~evdog


Thanks for reading, and if you like this i might make some more on other genres.
**EDITORS NOTE: T_T

over and out ~indeable

ps: hopefully this makes up for the last one I did. XD


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Re: ok im back with a rap lyric tutorial

Postby indeable » 10 Aug 2012 07:14

fine :roll:
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