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Help with speakers!

Postby Mazzive » 14 Feb 2012 18:55

Ello Dere everypony!

I was wondering what speakers you will recommend. With things like, how many of that, and what product. I'm producing and hearing dubstep, hip hop, house and drum and bass. So i need a subwoofer that can kick butt!
What i got now is: Logitech Z-340.

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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby bartekko » 15 Feb 2012 08:28

Sennheiser HD280

No, these are not speakers.
Yes, I am aware of the fact.
Yes, they sound good.
No, you won't need speakers.


EDIT: HD280's are closed headphones, which means that they sound a tinylittleunnoticeabletomostpeople worse than open headphones of the same price, but instead give very good outside noise reduction, which is only option if you want to listen to music while at a noisy place like school or bus, or you want to DJ.

Icky has monitoring speakers that sound as good as studio headphones, but cost a (sorry for profanity) metric fuckton of money.
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby Icky » 15 Feb 2012 08:37

I agree with Bartekko, if you dont have a lot of money to spend its usually a better idea to get studio headphones. If you do have a lot of money to spend I'd recommend the KRK Rokit series or the Behringer truth B3030As, although these start at around 300 dollars per pair.
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby Pickslide1992 » 15 Feb 2012 08:51

I'm with these two, headphones are your best option. If you can't find any good ones new, try looking for used. I'm not afraid to say most of the gear I use is used and in near perfect shape outside of a few signs of wear (Bumps and knicks on the guitar, a little dust on the floor processor, etc.)

Try eBay or Craigslist. You'll probably have more success with the former, but there is the occasional gem that shows up on Craigslist. You just have to keep your eyes open. The models Icky and bartekko mentioned are good places to start searching. Who knows, maybe you'll find a new pair at a fraction of the cost if you bought it new. Best wishes! ^_^
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby PrincessAddictia » 15 Feb 2012 11:13

bartekko wrote:Icky has monitoring speakers that sound as good as studio headphones...


Headphones (even 25762856342784$ high-end stuff) will never ever sound as good and clear as any active monitoring speakers. It's physics, you can't argue with that.
Depending on how deep you want to get into producing I would recommend to save the money and stick with the stuff you have until you can afford some monitoring speakers (like Icky said starting at 300$/Euros per pair).
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby Versilaryan » 15 Feb 2012 14:50

Honestly, I'd recommend getting a decent pair of headphones and then a set of real studio monitors. When you're writing, it doesn't matter if everything doesn't sound phenomenal, but when you're mixing/mastering at the end, it really does matter. Especially with hip-hop and dubstep. You'll /never/ get the bass clarity you need for those genres out of headphones.
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby Mazzive » 15 Feb 2012 16:12

bartekko wrote:Sennheiser HD280

No, these are not speakers.
Yes, I am aware of the fact.
Yes, they sound good.
No, you won't need speakers.


EDIT: HD280's are closed headphones, which means that they sound a tinylittleunnoticeabletomostpeople worse than open headphones of the same price, but instead give very good outside noise reduction, which is only option if you want to listen to music while at a noisy place like school or bus, or you want to DJ.

Icky has monitoring speakers that sound as good as studio headphones, but cost a (sorry for profanity) metric fuckton of money.

Okay thanks, but, last time i tried to produce music with headphones, it was pretty good. Then i tried to hear the track with my little logitech set, and it was terrible. I'm just afraid that the same thing will happen for these headphones. And then i would like just used my money for something, that only is good for me, when i'm outside and wanna listen to some music.
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby bartekko » 15 Feb 2012 16:20

Mazzive wrote:Okay thanks, but, last time i tried to produce music with headphones, it was pretty good. Then i tried to hear the track with my little logitech set, and it was terrible. I'm just afraid that the same thing will happen for these headphones. And then i would like just used my money for something, that only is good for me, when i'm outside and wanna listen to some music.


Your problem is with mixing, not headphones
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby Mazzive » 15 Feb 2012 16:22

bartekko wrote:
Mazzive wrote:Okay thanks, but, last time i tried to produce music with headphones, it was pretty good. Then i tried to hear the track with my little logitech set, and it was terrible. I'm just afraid that the same thing will happen for these headphones. And then i would like just used my money for something, that only is good for me, when i'm outside and wanna listen to some music.


Your problem is with mixing, not headphones

Ohh... but what should i then do, u know, so it sounds good for both (Speakers and headphones)? :?
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby bartekko » 15 Feb 2012 16:36

Mazzive wrote:Ohh... but what should i then do, u know, so it sounds good for both (Speakers and headphones)? :?


Define WHAT is wrong with mixing on speakers, then remove it.

Or ask HMage/Essinth to do that for you.
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby Mazzive » 15 Feb 2012 16:42

bartekko wrote:
Mazzive wrote:Ohh... but what should i then do, u know, so it sounds good for both (Speakers and headphones)? :?


Define WHAT is wrong with mixing on speakers, then remove it.

Or ask HMage/Essinth to do that for you.

Sorry, i'm completely new to this, but i understand nothing, you mean remove the thing on my speakers that makes it sounds terrible?
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby bartekko » 15 Feb 2012 16:44

Mazzive wrote:
Sorry, i'm completely new to this, but i understand nothing, you mean remove the thing on my speakers that makes it sounds terrible?


Change what sounded horrible, so it doesn't sound terrible.
This comes with experience.
Make music, and then make more music and make music some more.
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby Mazzive » 15 Feb 2012 17:01

bartekko wrote:
Mazzive wrote:
Sorry, i'm completely new to this, but i understand nothing, you mean remove the thing on my speakers that makes it sounds terrible?


Change what sounded horrible, so it doesn't sound terrible.
This comes with experience.
Make music, and then make more music and make music some more.

Okay, but the problem is that, when i make music with speakers it sound terrible on headphones, and when i make music with headphones it sounds terrible on speakers. But am i then supposed to try with both at the same track, until it sound great on both?
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby bartekko » 15 Feb 2012 17:06

Mazzive wrote:
bartekko wrote:
Mazzive wrote:
Sorry, i'm completely new to this, but i understand nothing, you mean remove the thing on my speakers that makes it sounds terrible?


Change what sounded horrible, so it doesn't sound terrible.
This comes with experience.
Make music, and then make more music and make music some more.

Okay, but the problem is that, when i make music with speakers it sound terrible on headphones, and when i make music with headphones it sounds terrible on speakers. But am i then supposed to try with both at the same track, until it sound great on both?


Yep.

You can also ask HMage for that
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby Mazzive » 15 Feb 2012 17:31

bartekko wrote:Sennheiser HD280

No, these are not speakers.
Yes, I am aware of the fact.
Yes, they sound good.
No, you won't need speakers.


EDIT: HD280's are closed headphones, which means that they sound a tinylittleunnoticeabletomostpeople worse than open headphones of the same price, but instead give very good outside noise reduction, which is only option if you want to listen to music while at a noisy place like school or bus, or you want to DJ.

Icky has monitoring speakers that sound as good as studio headphones, but cost a (sorry for profanity) metric fuckton of money.

Okay thanks, you helped me alot, but one thing i just need to know. When producing music, will you then recommend the seinheiser, for headphones? :D
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby Versilaryan » 15 Feb 2012 19:50

My suggestion? Make your music on the one that sounds better. Then, before you export it and call it done, listen to it on the other one, and then make it sound good on that. Then check again on the first one until you strike a good balance.

Best if you also learn how to use EQ and compression, too.

You can also ask Orch or HMage, though no promises on whether or not they'll have time to mix your track for you.
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby That_One_Dood » 16 Feb 2012 02:03

http://howtomakeelectronicmusic.com/how ... -fl-studio

This isn't really mastering like it says it is but this helped me out a LOT, if you don't use FL studio it shouldn't matter much, as I understand most EQ plugins/built in EQ's are similar.
I've also seen a lot of books on the subject on sites like amazon and what not
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Re: Help with speakers!

Postby Mazzive » 16 Feb 2012 04:33

Versilaryan wrote:My suggestion? Make your music on the one that sounds better. Then, before you export it and call it done, listen to it on the other one, and then make it sound good on that. Then check again on the first one until you strike a good balance.

Best if you also learn how to use EQ and compression, too.

You can also ask Orch or HMage, though no promises on whether or not they'll have time to mix your track for you.

Okay, i start doing it on my own, if the results is totally hopeless, i will try to ask one of thes guys for it. ;-)
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