Dubstep Drums?

[Rainbowjack]

I really really really (x heaps) need some really good dubstep drums, mostly snares and toms, I have heaps of samples for dubstep but no toms at all and the snares all suck. So I need punchy drum samples especially snare and toms for my Rainbow Factory remix (I'm doing something that nobody has done ever).

Thanks a heap!

P.S. if anyone has TheLivingTombstone's kick and/or snare I'd love them forever if they shared

Thanks! /)*(\

[colortwelve]

First of all, get a hold of the Vengeance samples in any way you can. Second, take this, a fairly useful sample pack that I tend to use quite frequently. Third, learn drum EQing, because that's how you get the really punchy sounds, by layering samples and EQing them to bring out the frequencies that add that punch to them (usually low-mid, high-mid, and occasionally, if you want Datsik snares, a little treble in the form of a white noise hit). Fourth, consider dabbling in cutting actual samples from completed tracks - editing out drum samples from empty(ish) passages, and then adjusting fades and EQs in your DAW afterwards (I also do this, and have a pretty nice collection of Noisia snares).

P.S. TLS' drum samples are overused enough in his own work, and it would add to the credibility of your own sound if you made yourself a little bank of drums that you've processed yourself

[Friv]

First of all, get a hold of the Vengeance samples in any way you can.

By that he means to BUY them, just so you know.

[Legion]

First of all, get a hold of the Vengeance samples in any way you can.

By that he means to BUY them, just so you know.

These samples are great for layering as well. If you buy any, I would recommend Electro Essentials and Essential House.

[Rainbowjack]

I bought Club Essentials but that wasn't much help not for dubstep but I'm reading up on drum EQing now so it might help.

[Lavender_Harmony]

I bought Club Essentials but that wasn't much help not for dubstep but I'm reading up on drum EQing now so it might help.

Which volume of Club?

[colortwelve]

My favored Vengeance pack is Electro Essentials, but the ECs are alright if you know how to work with them.

[soup2504]

I bought Club Essentials but that wasn't much help not for dubstep but I'm reading up on drum EQing now so it might help.

Club essentials should be the last you pick up. Vengeance house vol 1, 2, and 3 (volume 1 and 2 are better than 3, though) are quite important, and vengeance electro is pretty great, too.

I know there's a vengeance dubstep(unless I dreamed that), but I don't know how good that is.

[colortwelve]

I bought Club Essentials but that wasn't much help not for dubstep but I'm reading up on drum EQing now so it might help.

Club essentials should be the last you pick up. Vengeance house vol 1, 2, and 3 (volume 1 and 2 are better than 3, though) are quite important, and vengeance electro is pretty great, too.

I know there's a vengeance dubstep(unless I dreamed that), but I don't know how good that is.

I'm pretty sure Vengeance Dubstep is a bunch of Massive presets.

[Lavender_Harmony]

Nope, the new Dubstep one is a full set of tools, drums FX and loops if you're into that thing.

And VEC4 is the best value. I still say Vengeance are really overpriced, I wouldn't get another pack from them really, they're way too over processed to be useful is the majority of my mixes.

[Versilaryan]

I agree with Lavender. Instead of dropping $100 on the Vengeance packs, save the money for more important things and just learn how to make your own drums. Voodoopony's got a really nice guide on drum layering somewhere on this forum, and you can find plenty more elsewhere online. Like this one.

It's not only cheaper, but you learn A LOT about sound design that you can then translate to creating synths and other sounds in your music.

[Lavender_Harmony]

You can also have this on the house.

[soup2504]

You can also have this on the house.

LAVENDER. LAVENDER. LAV. LAV. OMG. THANK YOU.

[colortwelve]

You can also have this on the house.

LAVENDER. LAVENDER. LAV. LAV. OMG. THANK YOU.

Pretty much this.

[ArtAttack]

Find drum solos on youtube
sample them
use as fills.
Also, sample from professional artists. Sample everything.
But yeah, vengeance electroshock is the way to go.

[Legion]

You can also have this on the house.

I feel like I've used this gif before.

Still, relevant to above awesomeness.

[colortwelve]

Sample everything.

This is actually how I make most of my snares. Noisia has some great stuff to sample. Also, reverb is your best friend when you do this.

[ChromaticChaosPony]

You can also have this on the house.

I think that this may single-handedly (or hoofedly... whatever) solved my problem with not being able to make a drum beat for my songs.

All hail Lavender!

[colortwelve]

You can also have this on the house.

LAVENDER. LAVENDER. LAV. LAV. OMG. THANK YOU.

Pretty much this.

Actually, scratch that. FLS hates the samples, or the other way around, but for some reason loading them makes it crash.

But whatever, there's plenty in this thread without needing yet another sample pack

[Legion]

Actually, scratch that. FLS hates the samples, or the other way around, but for some reason loading them makes it crash.

But whatever, there's plenty in this thread without needing yet another sample pack

Really? FL cooperated fine with them for me. :/

[Indigo Spectrum]

You can also have this on the house.

You are awesome.

[soup2504]

Actually, scratch that. FLS hates the samples, or the other way around, but for some reason loading them makes it crash.

But whatever, there's plenty in this thread without needing yet another sample pack

Worked perfectly fine for me :/ yes, FLS.

[[voodoopony]]

Sample packs like vengeance or xfer are godawful. I know it's probably recommended to almost everyone who wants to dubstep, but it will make everything sound like shit. They're a collection of over-processed noises that prove to be useless in the long run, and take a toll in the professional quality of your work... anyone worth their salt would put time and effort into being able to produce on their own, at least, if they plan on getting any better. Learn your stuff, don't depend on other people to make things for you.

Plate reverbs sound great on old school dub snares~

EDIT: I read back and noticed you were particularly aiming for snares similar to Tombstone's. It's basically a 909 snare layered with a pitch altered tom. It's not quite a dubstep snare I think, it's more like, hard electronic etc. For a dub snare, you need some clang and warm verb and a blunt.

[colortwelve]

Sample packs like vengeance or xfer are godawful. I know it's probably recommended to almost everyone who wants to dubstep, but it will make everything sound like shit. They're a collection of over-processed noises that prove to be useless in the long run, and take a toll in the professional quality of your work... anyone worth their salt would put time and effort into being able to produce on their own, at least, if they plan on getting any better. Learn your stuff, don't depend on other people to make things for you.

What about people like me who use Vengeance samples along with other sample packs and straight-up cuts of professional music to synthesize new drums by layering 2-3 samples for each section of our kits?

[the4thImpulse]

Sample packs like vengeance or xfer are godawful. I know it's probably recommended to almost everyone who wants to dubstep, but it will make everything sound like shit. They're a collection of over-processed noises that prove to be useless in the long run, and take a toll in the professional quality of your work... anyone worth their salt would put time and effort into being able to produce on their own, at least, if they plan on getting any better. Learn your stuff, don't depend on other people to make things for you.

What about people like me who use Vengeance samples along with other sample packs and straight-up cuts of professional music to synthesize new drums by layering 2-3 samples for each section of our kits?

I completely agree with voodoopony, those samples are the most over used sounds in modern EDM. I dont have a problem if you layer them though, that takes a skill to do well and people likely wont recognize it as a vengeance/xfer sample pack.