[dubtsep/ambient][nonpony]Night Frights

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[dubtsep/ambient][nonpony]Night Frights

Postby itroitnyah » 19 Apr 2014 09:27

https://soundcloud.com/itroitnyah/night-frights

I made a track, and really cleaned it up after a bunch of people reviewed it. I enjoy how it turned out, overall. Made some improvements with sound design and such.

Tell me what you guys think and anything else.
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Re: [dubtsep/ambient][nonpony]Night Frights

Postby Guthey » 19 Apr 2014 12:00

This is distinctively different from the other stuff you've been doing, so I'll give you that, plus you combined ambiance and dubstep into one so good job there. One thing though is that the drums seem to be a little too fast for dubstep. I can't describe what it should sound like without sounding biased either, so I'm just going to say that. Also, the drops sound pretty much the same, like you just copied and pasted the first to the second. A little more variation in it would make it a little more exciting to listen to. That's all I really have to say about that.
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Re: [dubtsep/ambient][nonpony]Night Frights

Postby RubyVesper » 20 Apr 2014 04:53

I need to point out that this is not dubstep. Dubstep is 140BPM with a half-step beat. The half-step part is missing.
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Re: [dubtsep/ambient][nonpony]Night Frights

Postby itroitnyah » 20 Apr 2014 14:34

RubyVesper wrote:Dubstep is 140BPM with a half-step beat
I think I can call it whatever genre I want, thank you very much...

But seriously, I'm not one to get technical with genres, so I'm calling it dubstep/ambient because that's what I had in mind when making it, and if people want to get their underwear in bundles while their jimmies rustle, that's up to them.
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Re: [dubtsep/ambient][nonpony]Night Frights

Postby RubyVesper » 20 Apr 2014 15:22

I can understand why you would want to call it dubstep. I categorize all modern EDM as "Bass Music", just like Noisestorm does. For me, within that narrow spectrum, the difference between something like Dubstep, Electro or Breaks (last one is what this technically is) is pretty huge. Dubstep is slow dance, intended to give powerful feelings closely tied to the beats, lots of dynamic punches. Electro is more of a practical dance genre, it focuses more on a dynamic flow instead of separate punches. Breaks is like electro but with stranger drum patterns for an interesting experience. Electro is, unlike breaks, consistent in drums. Each of the genres is just as potent, but I really, really like to categorize them as the whole experience is vastly different
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Re: [dubtsep/ambient][nonpony]Night Frights

Postby itroitnyah » 20 Apr 2014 16:39

RubyVesper wrote:All about genres

Well I categorize music too. Sorta, lol

See, dubstep is like, wobble basses and epic/melodic drops and shit.

Electro is like, Idk. pop music but more electronic than pop music?

Breaks is like, chill stuff I guess

drum n bass is dubstep with more drums lol

house is pretty much the generic dance music

french house is like, idk. Why are there so many house sub genres

ambient is like chill ass shit. Soundscapes and pads and stuff, electronic music that's all about expressing emotion through sound design and

Trap is sticks hitting together or stab synths with really deep bass

As you can tell, I genre great lol
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Re: [dubtsep/ambient][nonpony]Night Frights

Postby Guthey » 20 Apr 2014 20:19

itroitnyah wrote:
RubyVesper wrote:Dubstep is 140BPM with a half-step beat
I think I can call it whatever genre I want, thank you very much...


I agree with Ruby here, the reason I didn't say that before is because I knew I would get that exact same response. You can make your own version and style of the genre, but the thing is you need to follow the rules of the genre. Dubstep is dubstep, a 140 BPM genre of half-step beats with variations in the beat according to the rhythm generated. However, DnB is more or less what this is, at least closer to it than the actual dubstep genre. I understand your intentions, and I understand that you have the freedom to call the music you make whatever you like, but I think you are being too subjective and critical of what your music is. In the end, you can call it whatever you want, but just because you call it that does not make it so.
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Re: [dubtsep/ambient][nonpony]Night Frights

Postby RubyVesper » 21 Apr 2014 01:51

itroitnyah wrote:
RubyVesper wrote:All about genres

Well I categorize music too. Sorta, lol

See, dubstep is like, wobble basses and epic/melodic drops and shit.

Electro is like, Idk. pop music but more electronic than pop music?

Breaks is like, chill stuff I guess

drum n bass is dubstep with more drums lol

house is pretty much the generic dance music

french house is like, idk. Why are there so many house sub genres

ambient is like chill ass shit. Soundscapes and pads and stuff, electronic music that's all about expressing emotion through sound design and

Trap is sticks hitting together or stab synths with really deep bass

As you can tell, I genre great lol



I'll attempt to give you a quick genre speed course by showing you the most obvious examples of certain genres I can find, lol.

Dubstep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I4cfOd-ZgU&t=60
Dubstep is usually very aggressive, but as many artists have shown, calm dubstep (known as chillstep, even though the technical term is Liquid Dubstep) can also be made. The only requirements are that the tempo is 140BPM and that the beats hit on 2/2 instead of 4/4.

Electro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ9RlcdDkos&t=45
Electro is mostly 128-132BPM with a normal 4/4 beat pattern. It is also a highly aggressive genre, and where Liquid Dubstep is a thing, Liquid Electro would not work as 128BPM Liquid is just Chill. Electro is fairly easy to separate from House as House is purely melodic.

Breaks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg8D7Bbm6TI&t=54
I don't actually know too much about breaks as I don't listen to it. Your track directly reminded me of it, so I think it is breaks.

Drum 'n' Bass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-T__qXRXXk&t=44
Drum 'n' Bass is a very wide spectrum with many sub genres. DnB is generally at 174BPM and uses a
"kick snare kicksnare" drum pattern. Other drum patterns are allowed though. Liquid DnB is also a thing.

House is indeed generic 128BPM melodic dance music.

French House is pretty much Nu-Disco, which can only be explained by listening to it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhGtxxx ... w7r0d&t=80

Ambient is meant as background, as if it would be used in a movie scene.

Trap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S32WBfuxr0E&t=41
Trap is basically fast-fading subby EDM music. You'll know it when you hear it.

There are many other genres I could explain, but that would take too much of my time.
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Re: [dubtsep/ambient][nonpony]Night Frights

Postby Viricide Filly » 21 Apr 2014 03:26

RubyVesper wrote:
I'll attempt to give you a quick genre speed course by showing you the most obvious examples of certain genres I can find, lol.

Dubstep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I4cfOd-ZgU&t=60
Dubstep is usually very aggressive, but as many artists have shown, calm dubstep (known as chillstep, even though the technical term is Liquid Dubstep) can also be made. The only requirements are that the tempo is 140BPM and that the beats hit on 2/2 instead of 4/4.
Oh boy here we go. Alright. Dubstep is a combination of the genres "dub reggae" and "2 step". The genre is a very popular form of EDM and has MANY forms. The BPM RANGE is ACTUALLY from 132-140. Yes, it's in half-time but to say that all dubstep needs to have some form of drop is laughable. You have things like dubplates, riddim, liquid dubstep, traditional 90s dubstep that hardly has any drop structure etc. dubstep can be really ambient if you want and it doesn't need to have a drop. "Chillstep" is NOT Liquid Dubstep, chillstep is what people think Future Garage is when it's actually just future garage.

Electro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ9RlcdDkos&t=45
Electro is mostly 128-132BPM with a normal 4/4 beat pattern. It is also a highly aggressive genre, and where Liquid Dubstep is a thing, Liquid Electro would not work as 128BPM Liquid is just Chill. Electro is fairly easy to separate from House as House is purely melodic.
Electro house is NOT purely highly aggressive. I've heard some really emotional electro house in my time and I've also heard really funky, laid back electro house. "House is purely melodic" ha no.

Breaks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg8D7Bbm6TI&t=54
I don't actually know too much about breaks as I don't listen to it. Your track directly reminded me of it, so I think it is breaks.
I don't listen to breaks much either but I'm not sure this song is it.

Drum 'n' Bass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-T__qXRXXk&t=44
Drum 'n' Bass is a very wide spectrum with many sub genres. DnB is generally at 174BPM and uses a
"kick snare kicksnare" drum pattern. Other drum patterns are allowed though. Liquid DnB is also a thing.
Drum & bass is ACTUALLY between 155 BPM and 180, the latter bpm reaching genres like jump up and even hardstep/skullstep etc. A lot of sub-genres of Drum & bass such as neurofunk, hardstep, skullstep etc don't really go for the "kick, snare, kick snare" thing you described, tbh.

House is indeed generic 128BPM melodic dance music.
I laughed

French House is pretty much Nu-Disco, which can only be explained by listening to it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhGtxxx ... w7r0d&t=80
"French house is pretty much nu-disco" are you for real?

Ambient is meant as background, as if it would be used in a movie scene.
I know many people in this forum that would disagree, including myself.

Trap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S32WBfuxr0E&t=41
Trap is basically fast-fading subby EDM music. You'll know it when you hear it.
Trap is characterised by it's 808 drum samples and the booming bass the "drops" are known for. Forms of trap can take after either hip-hop, moombahton or even traditional dubstep influences, being a sort of conglomeration of them all.

There are many other genres I could explain, but that would take too much of my time.
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