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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 19 May 2012 13:37

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MixolydianPony wrote:I'm going to pass out now. More backing tracks tomorrow. Probably an upbeat acoustic one, a slow ballad-y one, and maybe an 80's hair metal one. Anything else I should try and include?


Could you please try to make a downtempo progressive death metal backing in the style of Opeth, Meshuggah or very heavy Dream Theater stuff (like A Nightmare to Remember) in an odd time signature? Could it also be in the key of B flat minor? I was thinking of doing something with a downbeat, progressive, and evil sound to it, using 7 strings on my 8 string guitar. And I wanted it to be extremely heavy. If not, I'll just use the metal backing and add on to it. I can't make a drumbeat (lack drums and software that can make beats decently), so I can't make my own backing track.


You want the whole thing in one odd time, or a bunch of changing times? And by downbeat, were you thinking like 100bpm or 80bpm?

Also, I can't get much "heavier" than what you've already heard from me.


I was thinking of changing times, but you don't need to do anything too complex. I would also like for it to have some clean parts at around 1 minute and have it finish that way (it should only be between 1:30-2:00 long). The clean part should have a creepy/depressing sound, but somewhat melodic. 80 bpm is fine. I would like the key in B flat minor, but B is fine. Don't use very melodic chord progressions, try something that sounds sad and/or evil, but not terrible sounding (your call on this, I'll work with what you give me). The heavy parts should be a heavy groove centered around the open powerchord.

Concerning heaviness, try this: crank the gain on your guitar amp as high as it will go, put the treble at about 8-9, put the mid at about 8, and leave the bass between 3-6. Use alot of palm muting and power chords (and some diminished chords). Use alot of open power chord chugging patterns. The guitar should be tuned to drop B flat or drop B (drop tunings sound heavier be allowing the strings to have wider vibrations). Then use a distorted bass or bass guitar to fill in the bass frequencies missing from the guitar. Drums should use a lot of double bass pedal drumming, where impulses of the kick pedal match the rhythm and bass guitar open note chugging patterns and play fast in other parts. The snare should be used often. Cymbals, hi-hats, or ride should keep a 4/4 time so that you don't get confused. Toms should be used for occasional drum fills.

To get a better idea of what I'm talking about with the heaviness, listen to songs by Meshuggah (like Future Breed Machine or New Millenium Cyanide Christ), Opeth (I'm sure you already listen to Opeth anyways), and Bulb or Periphery (like Unleash the Pwnies and Icarus Lives).
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Applejinx » 20 May 2012 11:20

Well, shucks- I'm done. I liked the jazzy one better- tried the blues but it was so uptempo, I'm not Alvin Lee!
I might just get a beatdown, but these are the kinds of sounds I like :oops:

http://soundcloud.com/applejinx/jazz-solo

And th' too-fast RnB one- more about 'look, a semiclean blues strat tone!'

http://soundcloud.com/applejinx/rnb-solo

I assumed we couldn't comp together multiple takes but it had to be one pass straight through? The jazzy one is not only one pass, but the first take. Yay spontaneous :D
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Gnarrkhaz » 21 May 2012 07:20

Some sloppy playing here but you know what? After a few hundred takes (no joke) i don't care. This is as good as i can play it without having to split the parts into different recordings and i don't want to do that. It's also quite similar to my first entry. :/ @Kyoga: Pfft, who needs church modes? I started with E Minor and ended on G Major. :D

http://soundcloud.com/gnarrkhaz/up-and-down-pony-solo-2
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Gnarrkhaz » 21 May 2012 13:58

Kyoga wrote:XD i hate to break it to you, kid. But E minor and G major.... those are the same key


You don't say!..........:/
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Gnarrkhaz » 21 May 2012 14:11

Gnarrkhaz wrote:You don't say!..........:/


Bad choice of words. What i wanted to say was: Yes, yes i know that those are the exact same key. ;)
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Gnarrkhaz » 21 May 2012 16:04

Kyoga wrote:XD but why bother mentioning that!


Because you did that too. I explained it for my solo as well to show how lame it is compared to yours. : P

And in comparison to everyone else's too of course. In fact my solo is pretty bad anyway and i don't even know why i'm here. I don't deserve to be around all of you musicians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpxnUUi-Mmw

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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Gnarrkhaz » 21 May 2012 16:08

Damn it Kyoga! I'm still editing my post and you're already responding! :D
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Rainbow_Rage » 21 May 2012 17:26

Alright, I'm back at home, my horns all lubed-up and ready to go. I've got a decent idea of what to play. Now I just need to find my harmon and a toilet plunger and hope to god my mic will be able to record with decent quality (I'm sure it will, but it's been a while since I last used it).

What's the deadline for this thing?
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 21 May 2012 18:15

I have no idea.
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Gnarrkhaz » 21 May 2012 18:22

MixolydianPony wrote:The deadline for entries is June 2, which is three weeks from today.
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 21 May 2012 18:26

I better hurry up!
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 24 May 2012 17:38

I have to go to my grandparent' house again. Another late deadline...
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Rainbow_Rage » 25 May 2012 20:05

Hurrah, I got my first one finished after being painfully reminded at how long it's been since I last played. And how much playing with a harmon in sucks. Not totally satisfied with this one but my embrasure is mush and I won't be getting anything better out. I might do a second submission but I'm not sure I'll be able to.

http://soundcloud.com/rainbow_rage/mlr-bt-jazz-in-e-minor-rainbow

Also, those were some frustrating key choices mate (I know it's because this was for guitar, but it made my life as a trumpeter so much more difficult).
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 26 May 2012 12:23

Kyoga wrote:how long are you going to your grandparent's house?


This whole weekend.
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 29 May 2012 14:08

I will try to do the solo thingy this weekend. If it doesn't get done then, I will have to skip the next weekend (grandparent's house yet again) and start recording when I get back.
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Gnarrkhaz » 29 May 2012 14:22

Well, according to Mixolydian Pony the deadline ends on Saturday.
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 29 May 2012 14:36

I'm aware.
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Warbalist » 29 May 2012 14:39

Ok, guys!

I had a bit of time before work today, so I whipped something up. I didn't think I'd even be able to try, but you can surprise yourself when you wake up too early for your own good!

Anyway, I know I'll be judged on precision and complexity (even though some of the outside notes and sweeps make it mildly complex, I suppose), but I just don't have the time to make it all nicely-nice. So, here it is, clinks, clanks, slop and all:

http://soundcloud.com/warbalist/mlr-solo-contest-ii-fun-sloppy
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Warbalist » 29 May 2012 23:01

Kyoga wrote::D i like it! how long have you been doing music theory?


Too freaking long. Started really getting into it in college (Composition/Theory major started in 1998), and kept learning afterward.
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Warbalist » 30 May 2012 13:12

Kyoga wrote:Was this improvised? :D

Mildly... :P
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Warbalist » 30 May 2012 13:29

Kyoga wrote:Was this improvised? :D

By the way, when are we going to collab on a track? Neo-classical-complextro-metal? Atonal-shredstep?
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby HumbleEarthBrony » 30 May 2012 18:19

I'll have an entry ready in a few days. I may need to use a backing track because of time constraints. I'll also give everypony else's stuff a listen and have some comments. What I've heard so far seems pretty solid.
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby Legion » 31 May 2012 10:54

Kyoga wrote:
HumbleEarthBrony wrote:I'll have an entry ready in a few days. I may need to use a backing track because of time constraints. I'll also give everypony else's stuff a listen and have some comments. What I've heard so far seems pretty solid.



it ends really soon. so heads up.

I thought I was reading the Lesser Knowns thread for a second there. DON'T SCARE ME LIKE THAT, MAN.
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 31 May 2012 15:37

I'll try to do one across Friday and Saturday, but I might be late. I will use a backing track.
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Re: The Instrumental Soloing Contest II

Postby MixolydianPony » 31 May 2012 16:15

If you're only late by a few hours, we can wait for you.
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