Youtube Copyright and You

[Makkon]

View the article here
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/01/y ... .html#more

Informative video about copyright on youtube when dealing with trolls.




Also, important to note, that Hasbro is officially taking youtube videos down.

[SuperGiantRobot]

Pfft. They can't take 'em all down. "For each head you kill, two more shall take its place."

[DasDeer]

Thanks for showing these videos Makkon. They were interesting and informative.

[Mundius]

Pfft. They can't take 'em all down. "For each head you kill, two more shall take its place."

That's because they're slaying heads.

[bartekko]

Pfft. They can't take 'em all down. "For each head you kill, two more shall take its place."

yeah, but it takes a long time to grow a big tree. even if you plant two trees after taking down one, you'll have to wait tens of years before the trees grow as high as the old one

[Navron]

With upcoming DVD releases of episodes in multiple countries, this isn't much of a surprise at all, and for Hasbro to not go after the full uploads on YT would end up costing them dearly, which, at the end of the stick, the reason why we enjoy FiM is because of the company.

The creators and animators for the show love the series, but it's also their job. A full time job that earns money so they can provide for their families and themselves. From that viewpoint, the only thing pirating episodes and/or continuously uploading them freely is doing, is basically a trickle effect that if left unanswered will impact the show's creators themselves.

Hasbro has been very lenient on letting their material be shared publicly. Having to deal with constant uploads reappearing, the whole incident with Pony Archive, and a lot of angry fans that send letters expressing their feelings of entitlement to material that doesn't belong to them, I'm surprised Hasbro hasn't turned into a WMG/Viacom type company.

They don't seem to be interested in going after PMVs, music, art, etc, like many companies do. Some companies, like WMG, even take down videos of people performing cover songs of copyrighted material. A lot of our songs contain samples from the show. For those that don't, even if it's a cover, or based off MLP, technically it's using Hasbro's intellectual property, and after that you've got the whole gray area of fair use law.

Let's continue to count our blessings, that despite Hasbro stepping up the enforcement of their own material, they have made no move, nor have implied anything along the lines of taking down anything other than full and/or partial episode streams.

We should consider ourselves lucky to have such a great company that has helped grow and support our fanbase, and with that in mind, they deserve an enormous amount of respect, not scorn, and as influences on the community itself, our own actions influence many, and I highly encourage everybody to be very mature and rational when it comes to addressing this subject now, and in the future.

[Freewave]

Exactly we should continue to be glad they are mostly taking down FULL EPISODES which are available for pay downloads and eventually dvd's which makes perfect sense. It's their show in every meaning of the word (no fair use there). Let's count our blessings that PMV's are left alone and if they do go after those, we'll remove them and move on. They could have stopped Brony Music in its tracks early on and didn't so let's respect that very lenient relationship.

[Versilaryan]

Agreed. I'm also really thankful that it's not creating a huge fuss, which is good. Hasbro's gotta protect their property somehow. =)

[jubian]

ATTENTION TO THOSE WHO HAVE RELINQUISHED THEIR LEGITIMATE INFORMATION TO TROLLS!

If you, like I, chose to input your real information into the counter-claim form because you were afraid to find out if YouTube would really terminate your account for using false information (an understandable reaction), and the trolls have published this information somewhere on YouTube, don't panic! Here are the proper steps to take:

1. Don't respond to the trolls! Trolls feed off negative reaction, and if you cave in to their harassment, you'll only be digging yourself a deeper hole. Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/niggestvan NCF's channel has a 'Wall of Butthurt', which is just an accumulation of comments of people who have reacted to the trolls the wrong way. DO NOT BECOME ONE OF THESE PEOPLE, OR YOU'LL END UP ON THAT OR A SIMILAR LIST!

2. If possible, remove the comment with your personal information. If successful, take no further action!

ONLY PERFORM STEP 3 IF STEP 2 WAS UNSUCCESSFUL! YouTube will only assist you in taking down the offending comment, not in taking legal action.

3. http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/a ... wer=142443 This is the YouTube Privacy Claim Form. This time, be sure to use your legitimate information, as you won't risk relinquishing the data to the trolls (not that it should matter at this stage), but you could have your account suspended for abusing the process. YouTube may or may not follow up your claim with an email, but just cross your fingers and hope that they're doing the best they can to help you out (a bit uncomfortable but hey, you're not going to get anywhere just sitting around and letting trolls charge 20 extra large pizzas to your doorstep).



Hope this helps!

[Navron]

Perhaps this only applies to governmental workers, but isn't publishing anybody's personal information publicly against their wishes (name, address, phone number, etc.) a directly criminal act?

[SuperGiantRobot]

...like that would stop them? According to the message you get when tagging something with a copyright infringement tag: "There may be significant legal penalties for false notices."

You hear of anyone getting sued yet?

Thought not.

[Navron]

You can't really sue for false copyright notifications against a video you made that is a copyright infringement itself. We don't own any MLP material, so any PMVs, music w/ show samples, or even custom flash animation based on the show, is technically copyright infringement.

That's why they made a big mistake when they flagged the MLR charity album preview. Makkon decided not to take legal action because it's still better to ignore them, plus trying to deal with a lawsuit case would have meant the delay of the album.

If they continue on with no thoughts on the repercussions, it's only a matter of time until they get into some pretty deep legal trouble. All they're doing now is stacking the odds against themselves if that time comes. False copyright infringement, blackmail, release of private records, possession of child pornography, threats involving physical use of force, etc.

False copyright claims, blackmail, and releasing of private records are what they've already done, and the latter is implied (likely false), but regardless, it certainly wouldn't help them if they do end up in court one day.

I for one, don't think trolls are completely invincible:
http://www.channel4.com/news/dead-teena ... lly-jailed